i was looking at the profiles of the 3, and one of them is an 18 yr old just graduated from HS, WTF? He musta had some kind of connection to be working in such a big oversea project.

niko2x wrote:

i was looking at the profiles of the 3, and one of them is an 18 yr old just graduated from HS, WTF? He musta had some kind of connection to be working in such a big oversea project.

Yeah, he must've. But after his release, I think he's gonna reconsider this job and go back to college for an office job.
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in the company i worked for just before my current one, they had some positions contracting positions opening in iraq (they were asking about 2 months ago). all expense paid, 1 yr contrract (could be extended, if they did a good job) and would have a salary of $100,000 starting, depending on experieance. At that time i was thinking, "it might not be so bad if they were to issue rifles/ammo as well......"

niko2x wrote:

in the company i worked for just before my current one, they had some positions contracting positions opening in iraq (they were asking about 2 months ago). all expense paid, 1 yr contrract (could be extended, if they did a good job) and would have a salary of $100,000 starting, depending on experieance. At that time i was thinking, "it might not be so bad if they were to issue rifles/ammo as well......"

I've seen similar jobs like this: Big money for big risks. What good is the dough if you're dead?

bmwracer wrote:

I've seen similar jobs like this: Big money for big risks. What good is the dough if you're dead?

But the money is a BIG lure in today's world.
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ahochaude wrote:

But the money is a BIG lure in today's world.

True that. But I'll bet the hostages are second guessing themselves now.

bmwracer wrote:

True that. But I'll bet the hostages are second guessing themselves now.

Yeah, I would be. Hope they didn't splurge all their (literally) hard earned dough. 'Cause they'll need it when they get released and quit.
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my gosh, this is getting scarier by the moment. :T
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The Japanese civilians are not the only hostages. More civilian workers have been abducted http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3620839.stm
The "trend" is growing up, expect more hostages taken to threat the so_called_Coalition.

Pemu wrote:

The Japanese civilians are not the only hostages. More civilian workers have been abducted http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3620839.stm The "trend" is growing up, expect more hostages taken to threat the so_called_Coalition.

Oh boy. That sucks but unfortunately, that's the price of war. Especially when we're dealing with scum bags like Al Quida or whatever the hell they are.
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ahochaude wrote:

Oh boy. That sucks but unfortunately, that's the price of war. Especially when we're dealing with scum bags like Al Quida or whatever the hell they are.

I hope you don't take personal offense here, but it pains me to see the issue of Iraq and Al Qaeda conflated. It's just wrong.

It's been reported over and over that Iraq never had anything to do with Al Qaeda, Bush just had a hardon to take down Saddam, meanwhile Bin Laden is still running around, probably in Pakistan.

vibius wrote:

I hope you don't take personal offense here, but it pains me to see the issue of Iraq and Al Qaeda conflated. It's just wrong. It's been reported over and over that Iraq never had anything to do with Al Qaeda, Bush just had a hardon to take down Saddam, meanwhile Bin Laden is still running around, probably in Pakistan.

Doesn't matter . . . it's a war against terrorism. The free world can no longer afford to leave any despots and radicals "alone" anymore (if even THAT was the conventional wisdom before) hoping that if we leave them be, they won't stir up trouble.

The Man wrote:

Doesn't matter . . . it's a war against terrorism. The free world can no longer afford to leave any despots and radicals "alone" anymore (if even THAT was the conventional wisdom before) hoping that if we leave them be, they won't stir up trouble.

Well, the US Army War College thinks the war in Iraq was a bad move and so do I. We need to dismantle the real terrorists, not waste time, money, lives, and the goodwill of our allies going after make believe ones.

Yes, Iraq and the world are better off without Saddam, but if we are going to rid the world of despots, why do we let them join our "Coalition of the Willing" (e.g. Uzbekistan). Meanwhile, we are now mired in Operation Goatfuck, and it's going to take great expense to clean up that mess.

Sorry to get political. This'll be my last post on the subject.

vibius wrote:

Well, the US Army War College thinks the war in Iraq was a bad move and so do I. We need to dismantle the real terrorists, not waste time, money, lives, and the goodwill of our allies going after make believe ones. Yes, Iraq and the world are better off without Saddam, but if we are going to rid the world of despots, why do we let them join our "Coalition of the Willing" (e.g. Uzbekistan). Meanwhile, we are now mired in Operation Goatfuck, and it's going to take great expense to clean up that mess. Sorry to get political. This'll be my last post on the subject.

I've heard the same ("Well, the US . . . ones.") but from newspaper sources. Show me where the establishment admits the same on their webpage.

When the heck did any campaign cost less than a buck fifty?

I am REALLY holding back on this issue myself. I'll not stop talking about it.

Dear Man..

From things I have posted on our other site...that you may have read..I do hope you will give me a gold star for zipping my lips regarding one posting here. I was hot to trot but suddenly thought I would be bouncing my head against the Siegfried Line but to no avail THIS TIME!! As I am sure you, at least, are aware..not everything that happens in Iraq makes it into the papers.

Off to put the kettle on.

Peggy

vibius wrote:

I hope you don't take personal offense here, but it pains me to see the issue of Iraq and Al Qaeda conflated. It's just wrong. It's been reported over and over that Iraq never had anything to do with Al Qaeda, Bush just had a hardon to take down Saddam, meanwhile Bin Laden is still running around, probably in Pakistan.

No offense taken. Iraq, Al Qaeda, whatever the hell they are, they're still terrorists. I know that Al Qaeda and Iraq supposedly had nothing to do with one another. But they're both the same kind of scumbags to me.
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brad2 wrote:

Dear Man.. . . . As I am sure you, at least, are aware..not everything that happens in Iraq makes it into the papers. Off to put the kettle on. Peggy

My point exactly, Peggy -- actually, vice-versa, from my point-of-view; in other words, not everything reported to the papers are used by them either; they're a business. Bad news SELLS. Good news DOESN'T sell; just serves to make people jealous, right?

The U.S. War College is an educational institution. Like I said, SHOW me where it says there, at the source, that the Iraq war, going on now, was flat out CONDEMNED by the War College (which is the sense I'm getting from the press that are always ALWAYS objective).

Also, right on, Aho.

Dear Man,

Right on.....Tell me where can truth be found. When is a true patriot standing on solid ground..?

Well I enjoyed my cup of tea at least. Now back to the front lines ...

Maybe.

Peggy

brad2 wrote:

Dear Man, Right on.....Tell me where can truth be found.

I think the truth is one of these here:

I just don't remember which one, LOL!

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Hawaii residents love Krispy Kreme Doughnuts so much that they often stock up at a new store in Maui before boarding inter-island flights back home, overloading airline luggage bins along the way.

"The locals bring so many boxes of doughnuts on board that we can't always fit them on our flights. Some people will put five or six boxes in an overhead bin," says Mark Dunkerley, president of Hawaiian Airlines .

Hawaii's first Krispy Kreme store opened on Jan. 27 in Maui, less than a mile from Kahului Airport.

Doughnut shops are sprinkled liberally across the Hawaiian islands. But the novelty of a major chain, combined with the widespread custom of "omiage," a Japanese word that refers to the custom of bringing gifts home to family and friends, have given rise to the commuter doughnut.

On the day the Maui store opened, a Kauai police officer bought doughnuts for his entire department, then hopped on a plane for the short flight home, Krispy Kreme spokeswoman Tina McNealey said.