Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Tokyo Country:
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject:
TaintedWisdom wrote:
Have you tried doing a mask, and then feathering the outline? (by feathering you can blur without worrying about doing it freehand and ending up with what happened to you with maki's finger)
Now you also referred to "undo", I think is very important to do so as you do work on a picture cause then you will end up exactly with this type of problem (where the history might be flooded with previous actions and you can't get back to where the error occured). Also once a major blur/smudge has occurred, is not going to be easy to fix it by hand, and not using undo is just slowing yourself down.
In conclusion there are MANY ways to do what you trying to accomplish.
They range from super easy to more complicated.
1)Magnetic Lasso (easiest way ever to cut someone out, but doesn't take alpha channels into account, plus around the hair it can be quite sloppy)
2)Quick Mask (pretty straight forward approach)
3)Layer Mask (takes more freehand work, but can always be undo whenever a mistake is made and return previous background in a flash)
4)Extract Filter (quick way and very effective, beats erasing background hehe) Is probably my favorite way.
Here is an example (keep in mind I hardly ever mess with people/objects in photoshop as I draw/design things mostly myself).
ORIGINAL
Note: Picked this picture because is a very complex background which is hell to remove and also the hair on the right is impossible to select with lasso tool. (also cause it was one of the first pictures I found on my hardrive and is one of favorites lol) If the original was to have a white background, it would have been cake, cause the contrast is amazing.
AFTER
Note: Picked this background cause is an HDR picture (if something looks real on top of this, it deserves a clap, everything in HDR looks surrealistic lol)
Save and expand (damn imageshack shrinkage lol)
Anyways, this was a quick 5 minute demonstration of what I was talking about. (obviously if one works with lighting etc. one can make her appear to actually be part of that picture as if somehow she was there when it was taken. Then again thats impossible cause her right hand as you may notice was never part of the original picture lol)
Edit: Forgot to mention that if you're always removing people and objects and placing them in different backgrounds etc. you could try buying some "image isolation software" which are made only for this one purpose and they do it very well. I would love to recommend one but since I hardly ever mess with this type of work I don't know which is the best right now. Try doing some google search, you bound to find something good.
Now back to our regular programing.
wow!...what a nice editing...cool Tainted...
anymore photos to be Photoshop from you...come and share with us...
keep up the good works elinovy...
any latest news/photos of Maki-chan... _________________
Have you tried doing a mask, and then feathering the outline? (by feathering you can blur without worrying about doing it freehand and ending up with what happened to you with maki's finger)
Now you also referred to "undo", I think is very important to do so as you do work on a picture cause then you will end up exactly with this type of problem (where the history might be flooded with previous actions and you can't get back to where the error occured). Also once a major blur/smudge has occurred, is not going to be easy to fix it by hand, and not using undo is just slowing yourself down.
In conclusion there are MANY ways to do what you trying to accomplish.
They range from super easy to more complicated.
1)Magnetic Lasso (easiest way ever to cut someone out, but doesn't take alpha channels into account, plus around the hair it can be quite sloppy)
2)Quick Mask (pretty straight forward approach)
3)Layer Mask (takes more freehand work, but can always be undo whenever a mistake is made and return previous background in a flash)
4)Extract Filter (quick way and very effective, beats erasing background hehe) Is probably my favorite way.
Here is an example (keep in mind I hardly ever mess with people/objects in photoshop as I draw/design things mostly myself).
ORIGINAL
Note: Picked this picture because is a very complex background which is hell to remove and also the hair on the right is impossible to select with lasso tool. (also cause it was one of the first pictures I found on my hardrive and is one of favorites lol) If the original was to have a white background, it would have been cake, cause the contrast is amazing.
AFTER
Note: Picked this background cause is an HDR picture (if something looks real on top of this, it deserves a clap, everything in HDR looks surrealistic lol)
Save and expand (damn imageshack shrinkage lol)
Anyways, this was a quick 5 minute demonstration of what I was talking about. (obviously if one works with lighting etc. one can make her appear to actually be part of that picture as if somehow she was there when it was taken. Then again thats impossible cause her right hand as you may notice was never part of the original picture lol)
Edit: Forgot to mention that if you're always removing people and objects and placing them in different backgrounds etc. you could try buying some "image isolation software" which are made only for this one purpose and they do it very well. I would love to recommend one but since I hardly ever mess with this type of work I don't know which is the best right now. Try doing some google search, you bound to find something good.
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 526 Location: New York Country:
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject:
The_Lyrics wrote:
talent right there
Hahah, now you making blush as they say.
That was a 5 minute thing to show what I was referring to (when it came to the multiple ways to add/remove backgrounds and add/remove a person/object.)
I'm glad you found it nice
Wasn't expecting any feedbacks, let alone liking how it came out
I find the wallpapers I do take soooo much longer to do, yet I hardly ever get any feedback from them. But bah, art is like that, the one thing you spend the least time on, gets amazing aproval from the people hehe.
So yeah, I hope you understand what I was trying to say when it came to the ways of doing what you were trying to do with the Maki and Yamapi pics
Keep up the good work and most importantly, being creative, I think that is the true key to anything (like coming up with Yamapi + Maki hehe)
-TaintedWisdom _________________
"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not, none will suffice."
Hahah, now you making blush as they say.
That was a 5 minute thing to show what I was referring to (when it came to the multiple ways to add/remove backgrounds and add/remove a person/object.)
I'm glad you found it nice
Wasn't expecting any feedbacks, let alone liking how it came out
I find the wallpapers I do take soooo much longer to do, yet I hardly ever get any feedback from them. But bah, art is like that, the one thing you spend the least time on, gets amazing aproval from the people hehe.
So yeah, I hope you understand what I was trying to say when it came to the ways of doing what you were trying to do with the Maki and Yamapi pics
Keep up the good work and most importantly, being creative, I think that is the true key to anything (like coming up with Yamapi + Maki hehe)
-TaintedWisdom
lmfao my bad.
i'm done a few art work with signatures in the past with photoshop 7.0 and cs now, i hardly use it anymore. haha
Hahaha, Not even sure how to respond to this one lol.
Are angels suppose to have belly buttons?
LoL nice question, akaka
btw I'm waiting to see ur site of Maki <<33
man, I want to see her in a new dorama next season, but it unlikely happens, just count how many movies she has scheduled *sigh*
well movies are okay too!! *waiting impatiently for Kurosagiii*
and she should release anothe PB, iyaa I want to have more of her pics on my wall
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 66 Location: Manila Country:
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject:
TaintedWisdom wrote:
Have you tried doing a mask, and then feathering the outline? (by feathering you can blur without worrying about doing it freehand and ending up with what happened to you with maki's finger)
Now you also referred to "undo", I think is very important to do so as you do work on a picture cause then you will end up exactly with this type of problem (where the history might be flooded with previous actions and you can't get back to where the error occured). Also once a major blur/smudge has occurred, is not going to be easy to fix it by hand, and not using undo is just slowing yourself down.
In conclusion there are MANY ways to do what you trying to accomplish.
They range from super easy to more complicated.
1)Magnetic Lasso (easiest way ever to cut someone out, but doesn't take alpha channels into account, plus around the hair it can be quite sloppy)
2)Quick Mask (pretty straight forward approach)
3)Layer Mask (takes more freehand work, but can always be undo whenever a mistake is made and return previous background in a flash)
4)Extract Filter (quick way and very effective, beats erasing background hehe) Is probably my favorite way.
Here is an example (keep in mind I hardly ever mess with people/objects in photoshop as I draw/design things mostly myself).
ORIGINAL
Note: Picked this picture because is a very complex background which is hell to remove and also the hair on the right is impossible to select with lasso tool. (also cause it was one of the first pictures I found on my hardrive and is one of favorites lol) If the original was to have a white background, it would have been cake, cause the contrast is amazing.
AFTER
Note: Picked this background cause is an HDR picture (if something looks real on top of this, it deserves a clap, everything in HDR looks surrealistic lol)
Save and expand (damn imageshack shrinkage lol)
Anyways, this was a quick 5 minute demonstration of what I was talking about. (obviously if one works with lighting etc. one can make her appear to actually be part of that picture as if somehow she was there when it was taken. Then again thats impossible cause her right hand as you may notice was never part of the original picture lol)
Edit: Forgot to mention that if you're always removing people and objects and placing them in different backgrounds etc. you could try buying some "image isolation software" which are made only for this one purpose and they do it very well. I would love to recommend one but since I hardly ever mess with this type of work I don't know which is the best right now. Try doing some google search, you bound to find something good.
Now back to our regular programing.
Sorry for the late reply...I've been busy these days.
I greatly appreciate your advice and thanks for making an effort to give some steps on how to edit....
I'll keep that in mind guru....Anyway,the picture that you edit there was really nice
as you said...It deserves a clap.
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