No I'm pretty sure they are referring to your DSL upload speed. BT upload speeds will go as high as your connection can support given there are enough peers etc.
I'll have to check all of my settigns, etc when I get home. I'm pretty sure my UL speeds weren't that high (though maybe the settings are per connection and with enough connections I may be going a lot higher than I had imagined...
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:36 am Post subject:
RedRum wrote:
For you guys with problems with ABC or AZ etc, you could try BitComet. I've tried it for a while before. It's pretty good. It's written using C++ so should be faster, at least on slower systems. But I went back to AZ b/c I like its inferface better, and I don't have any problems with it.
DL is SO slow on the download.com DL site. i guess i can try later, thx for the suggestion. _________________
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:33 am Post subject:
Bittorrent's not going to die. It'd take Blizzard Software and the Steam distribution system down with it. Remember, it's just a technology. It's up to those who control it to decide what to do with it. _________________
"...but it was my integrity that was important. Is that so selfish? It sells for so little, but it's all we have left in this place. It is the very last inch of us...but within that inch we are free." - V for Vendetta
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:53 am Post subject:
Good article. Nice find, Andy. I was reading a similar article in the washington post on the way to work yesterday. If not the end, then at least BT is/maybe under the radar of the powers that be... _________________
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:34 am Post subject: As for JPOP...
I can tell you that the Japanese record labels are watching the JPOP BT sites, part of the problem began this past summer when someone posted video on one of the trackers from footage from the L'Arc~en~Ciel concert in the USA. If anything, Sony and Tofu tried to prevent the situation of people recording the concert live and there was trouble going on with unauthorized photos from the concert showing up online.
Even though the tracker pulled the video off the site, it was too late. That video alone exposed the multiple JPOP trackers out there.
Believe it or not, many Japanese from the labels didn't know about these trackers until this L'Arc concert video footage showed up and it was promoted on many sites and mailing lists.
Anyway, this was a major problem but the video source of where people were downloading the L'Arc video was the first major exposure to a few record labels and management of how DVD's, albums and CD singles are making it on a certain tracker (which has links to other trackers).
Granted, it seems that mainly the RIAA and the Movie companies in the US are pursuing after those who moderate trackers and those who seed/download them.
But as evidence of the Media Works Inc. situation on the 7th with the anime trackers, it's safe to assume that law offices are currently doing their research.
I would not be surprised if seeders who continually upload and seed large numbers of DVD's or music on the JPOP bittorrent are being kept on record for how many offenses they have violated.
Personally, I think bittorrent is great technology and it all depends on how you use it.
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:50 am Post subject:
thetenken wrote:
Bittorrent's not going to die. It'd take Blizzard Software and the Steam distribution system down with it. Remember, it's just a technology. It's up to those who control it to decide what to do with it.
Well said. I personally don't think BitTorrent will die. Someone will just think of a way to make it underground. Making something underground has been done before and will probably be done again.
groink wrote:
Two words: snail mail
--- groink
It's still illegal either way. It just means you'll have the feds knocking on your doorstep. You never know who's an undercover agent or who would rat you out.
kndy-nt2099 wrote:
Anyway, this was a major problem but the video source of where people were downloading the L'Arc video was the first major exposure to a few record labels and management of how DVD's, albums and CD singles are making it on a certain tracker (which has links to other trackers).
This is why I have a problem with trackers. It's INVITING authorities to see what everyone is trading. That and it's pretty easy to find a tracker by using a spider like Google.
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:06 am Post subject:
well, i believe it is possible for bt to die, but then there would be another type of p2p app that would spring up. there's a lot of smart people out there (on both sides).
i'm sure a lot of people thought that napster would never go down. well, it technically hasn't, but it's not what it used to be. but that doesn't mean music file sharing is dead. there's kazaa, winmx, bt, etc. if those go down, i'm pretty sure there would be an xyz and zyx software that would come out.
The MPAA, the main lobbying group for Hollywood's major studios, held a news conference Tuesday afternoon to trumpet the latest crackdown, which representatives said included both civil lawsuits and criminal prosecutions around the world.
"We have taken action against over 100 servers in many countries on four continents," said John Malcolm, the director of worldwide anti-piracy at the MPAA. He said steps were taken this week in the U.S., the United Kingdom, France, Finland and the Netherlands.
The measures taken this week, however, were not directed at individuals who download movies. Instead, the targets were people who act as conduits between downloaders and three specific "peer-to-peer" file-sharing technologies: BitTorrent, eDonkey, and DirectConnect.
BitTorrent, the fastest-growing peer-to-peer service on the Internet, and eDonkey together make up the bulk of all peer-to-peer traffic, according to CacheLogic, a Cambridge, England-based market research firm that tracks Web traffic.
BitTorrent is especially frightening to Hollywood because it can download movies in just a few hours. And the software is designed so that downloading a film gets easier as more people try to access it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:01 am Post subject: Stupid seeders do it again!
As a label prepares to release L'Arc~en~Ciel Live in the USA DVD in the United States, yesterday a tracker that carries JPOP BT has the DVD (being seeded) before it's release.
* REVISED *
[The Torrent Link has since been removed]
I wonder if the moderator of the tracker was contacted by the label? Also, I wonder if they know that TOFU Records is actually Sony Music Entertainment's subsidiary company, it is part of SONY.
For the past 1.5 years I've been involved with P2P for Japanese dramas, I've come up with some thoughts over the whole issue of this peer-to-peer (P2P) controversy.
First off, let me make sure everyone is clear on the following point: Protocols are not illegal. The process is being exercised by the use of an application, transferred via a protocol. In this scenario, P2P is the application, BitTorrent is the protocol, and piracy is the process. The process, that being piracy, is the issue.
Unfortunately, human beings by nature, tend to take virtually anything and turn it into something bad, immoral, or illegal. I like the philosophy of Agent Smith in the movie The Matrix:
Human beings are not a mammal. Mammals tend to settle and adapt to their environment. On the other hand, human beings tend to travel from place to place, eating up all the resources and destroying the environment along the way. There's another organism that's very similar to this:
A virus.
In my way of thinking, Internet users are basically viruses themselves, taking innovative and useful technologies like P2P and turn them into something that the Society of Intellectual Properties can do without.
So... What do you do about it? Do you kill off the virus? Or do you destroy the path the virus uses to spread from place to place? If I was a physician, I'd want to kill the virus. Am I right? I mean, even if I destroy the virus' path, I'm still stuck with the virus. And, the virus, by its nature, will become more intelligent and stronger, and therefore will find other methods of traveling. So, I'd want to kill off the virus so that the path can be used for other things that benefits the environment.
Now, let's take the MPAA and the RIAA. The MPAA/RIAA is the physician, and their clients are the patients. The symptom is that their clients aren't maximizing their profits. The extreme left believes that there is a finite point called enough, and they use this term in the context of, "The MPAA/RIAA is making enough money as it is. They don't need anymore money." The extreme right believes that there is no such thing as enough, and the goal in the Monetary World is to maximize profits from their intellectual properties.
What's wrong with maximizing profits? We all want as much money as we want. We're the same as Universal Pictures or MGM. We all at one point in our lives (except for maybe the high school and college students) want an increase in pay at our jobs. We want more money so that we can buy more stuff, improve our lifestyles, and when all is said and done maybe have a little to put away for our golden years.
HOWEVER, when money is at a disadvantage, humans tend to perform a 180, and start complaining when they don't have enough money to buy the stuff they want. Now, viruses have a similar nature... When viruses run out of resources in order to survive, they start feeding off of the good things in their environment. In the case of humans, they start developing a process called righteous justification. The process shuts off a part of their brain that analyzes another process called consequences. In the human species, righteous justification overrides consequences.
Earlier, I always thought that humans were better than viruses in the sense that we think about the consequences before we perform an action. That's how societies were originally developed. In order to create order, humans must be placed on a set of guidelines, coated with consequences in case the humans decided to circumvent the guidelines.
There are two bodies within any given society that dictate guidelines: government and spirituality. Until very recently, I believe virtually humans throughout planet Earth were put into their places by these two bodies. Unfortunately, just like viruses, humans have developed an idealism where government and spirituality is only as strong as what's on paper, and that action is the ultimate act that can prove whether either of these bodies even have the strength to enforce the guidelines they're supposed to enforce. Viruses figured out a long time ago that the biological rules that's supposed to protect the human body can be broken by just simply ignoring the rules. And, because the human body can't defend the rules it originally put in place, the virus takes over.
That's really what's occurring on the Internet... I no longer believe its a matter of a lack of money. I think the users are lazy MF'ers and therefore just don't want to pay for stuff. They've figured out they can get stuff easily for free, and thereby enabling righteous justification to convince themselves that what they're doing is enough to protect them from the consequences. That's basically the entire problem, in a nutshell. And that's why I equate these users with viruses... They've taken a once clean environment called the Internet, taken great innovations like P2P, and turned everything into what I'd like to call Anarchy on the Internet.
Yes, it's anarchy. The basic definition of anarchy is when individuals feel a sense of empowerment, inspiring them to override the rules of society, and society doesn't have the power to stop them. That's what's happening here... People can no longer create and control their intellectual properties because anarchy is voiding and ignoring the bodies that maintain the rules it once protected. Like Ferris Bueller once said, "Nothing's illegal until you get caught."
So in reality, the MPAA/RIAA did not set out to destroy P2P from the beginning. Believe me, they wanted to kill the viruses. However, because the rules of the various governing bodies around the World aren't working off the same piece of paper (Canada, for example), they have no other legal option but to destroy the virus' path, and that my friends is the protocol, in this case BitTorrent. Now, honestly, can you blame them for trying to destroy P2P?
I can't predict whether or not P2P will die at the end. However, I'm confident enough to rule that IF P2P is destroyed, it's really the users that caused the destruction of that useful application.
Now that I have 1.5 years under my belt in the Japanese drama realm, I choose not to be a virus of the P2P application. I have studied and considered the consequences. I've studied the righteous justifications from various people. You know what? I have no idea why a supreme being of your ilk placed me on planet Earth. However, I'm quite sure the purpose of my existence in life is not to be entertained. And, I most certainly do not want to live the rest of my life talking to myself, justifying every shady action I make. I have better methods about getting the things I want -- like working hard for every dollar I earn, and then going home and have my hard earned money start working for me.
Call me Uncle Tom of the controlled society we live in, but you know what? I don't have to justify myself on any of my actions, as long as I play along the guidelines. And that, my friends, is priceless.
--- groink (classification: human being, and NOT a virus)
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject:
Hi Groink,
Thanks for posting your blog.
Here is my feeling as of late regarding certain trackers.
I'm really disappointed about certain trackers.
There are those who create trackers for the passion for a certain subject. They stay within the context and provided Japanese dramas (fan subs and raws) to shows that people have no access of renting. I really don't mind about these trackers.
Even anime trackers like animesuki and a.scarywater.net. They handled things with class by accomodating the anime company with their request and even the US distributors as with other fan sub groups by stopping fan subs of licensed anime.
It's very unfortunate though that when it comes to music, people have used this argument that "So, I posted the Japanese version, it's not the US version...so screw that US distributor" or the US version is different than the Japanese version thus I can keep the Japanese version up. Japanese copyrights don't matter. I think they should of followed what anime fan sub groups have done and respect the labels taken them down off their tracker regardless what version it is. It's available for purchase in the US and people from different countries can purchase that cheaper version. Remove it off the tracker.
I guess their knowledge of the Berne Convention is out the window. [The Berne Convention is an international copyright treaty signed by 96 countries.]
Nevertheless, it is like certain individuals in the BT tracker community are taunting/daring the record labels as if they want to see them try something.
This is the same manner that certain fan sub groups took with distributors when they received e-mails to please stop fan subbing and take them off their trackers and the infamous AJ fansubbers telling the anime company who was reponsible for Ninja Scroll TV to F-off.
Well, now I'm curious to see how the record labels respond. If these seeders/tracker moderators don't comply by a cease and desist, they should send a serious message to those people involved with hardcore piracy and give them a hefty fine or some jail time.
bittorrent happens to be a terrific p2p app. i'm surprised it's not used for more LEGAL stuff.
Well, it does have legal uses, as Xavio has mentioned. However, it's a VERY VERY low percentage of the overall BT traffic. Like I said in my essay, people like turning great and useful things into sh*t. That is the attitude of today's humans -- it's a ME ME ME ME first attitude.
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