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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i think the older generation r more or less like tt..like wad u mentioned. Sweat

as for the younger generation, they dun really care, do they? except some, but shld we let history affect our future???? Beaten

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My exGF's parents, when she told them that she was dating a Japanese guy, her mom immediated gave her crap about what the Japanese did during World War II.


wad if the guy is nt a japanese? bleh
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

atata wrote:
i think the older generation r more or less like tt..like wad u mentioned. Sweat

as for the younger generation, they dun really care, do they? except some, but shld we let history affect our future???? Beaten

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My exGF's parents, when she told them that she was dating a Japanese guy, her mom immediated gave her crap about what the Japanese did during World War II.


wad if the guy is nt a japanese? bleh


We discussed this in the marriage thread:
http://www.jdorama.com/viewtopic.1704.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

pcmodem wrote:
One thing I noticed, like BMW noticed, even the Chinese here in the USA of the older generations, they still have a serious anti-Japan sentiment.

The hypocrital thing about that is (at least with my folks and grandparents) is that one of the things that drove them out of China was not the Japanese, but the Communists. Chinese Communists.

So why they blame the Japanese is beyond me. Shake Head
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

The hypocrital thing about that is (at least with my folks and grandparents) is that one of the things that drove them out of China was not the Japanese, but the Communists. Chinese Communists.

So why they blame the Japanese is beyond me. Shake Head


Did you ever see "Farewell My Concubine"?

Leslie Cheung was my favorite HK actor. But anyway, yeah, the movie touches on that subject, the division of China over the years.

On an random note, I know a retired Catholic priest that fled China during the Cultural Revolution. He was a young attorney, the Catholic Church helped him escape.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i agree with bmwracer..the chinese communists thingy.. Shake Head
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

pcmodem wrote:
Did you ever see "Farewell My Concubine"?

Unfortunately, no. Sweat

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Leslie Cheung was my favorite HK actor. But anyway, yeah, the movie touches on that subject, the division of China over the years.

He killed himself last year, ne?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

He killed himself last year, ne?


Yep, jumped off a building.

He was distraught over his lover leaving him.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Has anyone considered the idea that this might be a case of the tail wagging the dog?

China and Japan are in a dispute over drilling rights.

Not a sexy topic. Not something the average Joe would get really worked up about.

But some would say (okay, I would say) that the Chinese government would want to stir up anti Japanese sentiment among the rank and file.

Granted, the Japanese handed them the issue by white washing their history books.

But think about it. How does what's printed in Japanese grammar school text books, become a major issue in China... without someone high up in China pushing it?

Having it seem like you've got a billion or so angry people behind you, all of them ready to do violence, would seem, to some, to be a pretty good bargaining tool to bring to the table.

The major issue here isn't the text books, or apologies. It's drilling rights.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Geezer wrote:
Has anyone considered the idea that this might be a case of the tail wagging the dog?

China and Japan are in a dispute over drilling rights.

Not a sexy topic. Not something the average Joe would get really worked up about.

But some would say (okay, I would say) that the Chinese government would want to stir up anti Japanese sentiment among the rank and file.

Granted, the Japanese handed them the issue by white washing their history books.

But think about it. How does what's printed in Japanese grammar school text books, become a major issue in China... without someone high up in China pushing it?

Having it seem like you've got a billion or so angry people behind you, all of them ready to do violence, would seem, to some, to be a pretty good bargaining tool to bring to the table.

The major issue here isn't the text books, or apologies. It's drilling rights.


Heya Geez', good to see you. Wave
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

WOW!!! seems like i just had another 30 mins of histroy class and i just came from history class Beaten

Seems like we asian people don't let go of the past so easily, which is good and bad in my opinion.

I agree with atata though, the younger generation just really don't care, unless it affects them big time.

But um...how hard is it going to be for China and Japan to kiss and make up??? anger towards one another is only going to make things worse isn't it?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Has anyone considered the idea that this might be a case of the tail wagging the dog?

China and Japan are in a dispute over drilling rights.

Not a sexy topic. Not something the average Joe would get really worked up about.

But some would say (okay, I would say) that the Chinese government would want to stir up anti Japanese sentiment among the rank and file.

Granted, the Japanese handed them the issue by white washing their history books.

But think about it. How does what's printed in Japanese grammar school text books, become a major issue in China... without someone high up in China pushing it?

Having it seem like you've got a billion or so angry people behind you, all of them ready to do violence, would seem, to some, to be a pretty good bargaining tool to bring to the table.

The major issue here isn't the text books, or apologies. It's drilling rights.


Geezer, u r juz brilliant, i love the way u said everything out clean and neat! Thumbsup Hug

tt's why i say why they wan to demand an apology so much, it make no sense and now we all shld noe the 'motive' behind.. hehe
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Happy Lunchtime PC.

Ain't it a beautiful day?

The sun is shining, the birds are birding, and people are talking international politics.

I love this stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Geezer wrote:
Happy Lunchtime PC.

Ain't it a beautiful day?

The sun is shining, the birds are birding, and people are talking international politics.

I love this stuff.


hahah ... luv the qoute .. dude ... u said it just like i would say it .. just that out here its 9:40 PM...

but yeah for someone who does not know much of all this ... is really interesting to read all this ..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

atata

Brilliant? I tell people that, but so far, you're the only one who's ever agreed.

Hence, you're my favorite.

As to watching the machinations of governments... it's always good to maintain a healthy dose of cynicism.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Geezer wrote:
atata

Brilliant? I tell people that, but so far, you're the only one who's ever agreed.

Hence, you're my favorite.

At to watching the machinations of governments... it's always good to maintain a healthy dose of cynicism.


Well, when watching governments, or corporations, I try to do so by analyzing their real motives in terms of the oldest motive in the world:

Money


All you need is love, love, love is all you need.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

wooooh

money makes the world go round huh? hehe rofl

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Brilliant? I tell people that, but so far, you're the only one who's ever agreed.

Hence, you're my favorite.


favorite..heex Mr Green
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Money. Yeah, that's a good one.

There's power too.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

pcmodem wrote:


Well, when watching governments, or corporations, I try to do so by analyzing their real motives in terms of the oldest motive in the world:

Money

-PCM


NOT MONEY .............POWER ... at those levels money is not the pull .. it is all about power ... money is just a driver .. well thats what i think
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

z123_us

It's the chicken or the egg.

Money is power.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i thou is..

LOVE that makes the world go round??????? hehe hehe

am i outdated or..HA Bonk
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