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supermidget

Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 406 Location: ������ Country:   |
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Julieh wrote: | How would I say,
- Forgive my friend, he's/she's an idiot.
- My birthday is October 20th.
- You forgot my birthday, you moron/idiot!
- Call me when you get home.
Yes, odd sentences I know, I'm just interested in the grammar parts
And does �� always mean "I/me"? Can it be used anywhere in a sentence? |
/ these are not undebatable answers... some I changed a bit to make them more suitable in Japan. At least they should be understandable but I sometimes produce sentences that sound odd to Japanese, but I can't test that so easily.
- �F�B���n���ŋ����Ă��������ˁB
tomodachi ga baka de, yurushite kudasai ne.
"My friend is an idiot, so please forgive him/her."
- ���̒a�����͂P�O���̂Q�O���ł��B
watashi no tanjoubi wa juugatsu no hatsuka desu.
"My birthday is on the 20th of October.
- ��(if you're a guy. else ��) �̒a������Y�ꂿ������́H�n��/�����Ȃ��I
ore (else watashi) no tanjoubi wo wasurechatta no? Baka/yurusenai!
"Did you forget my birthday? Idiot / I can't forgive that!"
- �A������d�b�������H
kaettara denwa shite kureru?
"Would you call me when you come home?"
�� always means "I" or "me" or "mine" etc. As in: it can never mean "you", "they" or anything like that. Since Japanese - like any language - has rules regarding word order, you can not place it anywhere within a sentence. _________________
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Julieh
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 76
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| supermidget wrote: |
/ these are not undebatable answers... some I changed a bit to make them more suitable in Japan. At least they should be understandable but I sometimes produce sentences that sound odd to Japanese, but I can't test that so easily.
- �F�B���n���ŋ����Ă��������ˁB
tomodachi ga baka de, yurushite kudasai ne.
"My friend is an idiot, so please forgive him/her."
- ���̒a�����͂P�O���̂Q�O���ł��B
watashi no tanjoubi wa juugatsu no hatsuka desu.
"My birthday is on the 20th of October.
- ��(if you're a guy. else ��) �̒a������Y�ꂿ������́H�n��/�����Ȃ��I
ore (else watashi) no tanjoubi wo wasurechatta no? Baka/yurusenai!
"Did you forget my birthday? Idiot / I can't forgive that!"
- �A������d�b�������H
kaettara denwa shite kureru?
"Would you call me when you come home?"
�� always means "I" or "me" or "mine" etc. As in: it can never mean "you", "they" or anything like that. Since Japanese - like any language - has rules regarding word order, you can not place it anywhere within a sentence. |
It's okay that you've changed the sentences a little It often sounds better in a different way in another language. I would do the same in Norwegian
And yeah, I'm a girl, so watashi for me! Hehe....
Thank you very much, for both translating and writing it down in both Japanese and romaji, as my reading skills are sloooooooooooow and I don't know any Kanjis... yet
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supermidget

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:01 am Post subject: |
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naomi14
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 185 Location: Tennousei (Uranus) Country:   |
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| supermidget wrote: |
28th of November is �\�ꌎ�̓�\���� juu ichi gatsu no ni juu hachi nichi.
Months of the Year
�i�����@�P�@�@�@�ꌎ�@�@�������@�@�@�@�@�@ichi gatsu
�e�����@�Q�@�@�@�@�@�ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@ni gatsu
�l�����@�R�@�@�@�O���@�@���@�@�@�@�@�@san gatsu
�`�����@�S�@�@�@�l���@�@�����@�@�@�@�@�@�@shi gatu
�l�����@�T�@�@�@�܌��@�@�����@�@�@�@�@�@�@go gatsu
�i�����@�U�@�@�@�Z���@�@�낭���@�@�@�@�@�@roku gatsu
�i�����@�V�@�@�@�����@�@�������@�@�@�@�@�@shichi gatsu
�`�����@�W�@�@�@�����@�@�͂����@�@�@�@�@�@hachi gatsu
�r�����@�X�@�@�@�㌎�@�@���イ���@�@�@�@�@kyuu gatsu
�n�����@�P�O�@�@�\���@�@���イ���@�@�@�@�@juu gatsu
�m�����@�P�P�@�\�ꌎ�@�@���イ�������@�@�@juu ichi gatsu
�c�����@�P�Q�@�\�@�@���イ�ɂ��@�@�@�@juu ni gatsu
Days of the Month
�P�@�@�@�@����@�@�������@�@�@�@�@tsuitachi
�Q�@�@�@�@����@�@�ӂ��@�@�@�@�@�@futsuka
�R�@�@�@�@�O���@�@�݂����@�@�@�@�@�@mikka
�S�@�@�@�@�l���@�@������@�@�@�@�@�@yokka
�T�@�@�@�@�ܓ��@�@�����@�@�@�@�@�@itsuka
�U�@�@�@�@�Z���@�@�ނ����@�@�@�@�@�@muika
�V�@�@�@�@�����@�@�Ȃ̂��A�Ȃʂ��@�@nanoka, nanuka
�W�@�@�@�@�����@�@�悤���@�@�@�@�@�@youka
�X�@�@�@�@����@�@�����̂��@�@�@�@�@kokonoka
�P�O�@�@�@�\���@�@�Ƃ����@�@�@�@�@�@tooka
�P�P�@�@�\����@�@���イ�����ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@juu ichi nichi
�P�Q�@�@�\����@�@���イ�ɂɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@juu ni nichi
�P�R�@�@�\�O���@�@���イ����ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@juu san nichi
�P�S�@�@�\�l���@�@���イ������@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@juu yokka
�P�T�@�@�\�ܓ��@�@���イ���ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@juu go nichi
�P�U�@�@�\�Z���@�@���イ�낭�ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@juu roku nichi
�P�V�@�@�\�����@�@���イ�ȂȂɂ��E���イ�����ɂ��@�@�@juu nana nichi / juu shichi nichi
�P�W�@�@�\�����@�@���イ�͂��ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@juu hachi nichi
�P�X�@�@�\����@�@���イ���イ�ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@juu kyuu nichi
�Q�O�@�@��\���@�@�͂��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@hatsuka
�Q�P�@��\����@�@�ɂ��イ�����ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@ni juu ichi nichi
�Q�Q�@��\����@�@�ɂ��イ�ɂɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@ni juu ni nichi
�Q�R�@��\�O���@�@�ɂ��イ����ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@ni juu san nichi
�Q�S�@��\�l���@�@�ɂ��イ������@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@ni juu yokka
�Q�T�@��\�ܓ��@�@�ɂ��イ���ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@ni juu go nichi
�Q�U�@��\�Z���@�@�ɂ��イ�낭�ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@ni juu roku nichi
�Q�V�@��\�����@�@�ɂ��イ�ȂȂɂ��E�ɂ��イ�����ɂ��@ni juu nana nichi / ni juu shichi nichi
�Q�W�@��\�����@�@�ɂ��イ�͂��ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@ni juu hachi nichi
�Q�X�@��\����@�@�ɂ��イ���イ�ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@ni juu kyuu nichi
�R�O�@�@�O�\���@�@���イ�ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@san juu nichi
�R�P�@�O�\����@�@���イ�����ɂ��@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@san juu ichi nichi
Counting Months
�P�@�@�ꃖ���@�@�@�������@�@�@�@�@ikkagetsu
�Q�@�@�@�@�@�@�ӂ����@�@�@�@�@futatsuki
�@�@�@���@�@�@�ɂ����@�@�@�@�@nikagetsu
�R�@�@�O���@�@�@�@�݂��@�@�@�@�@�@mitsuki
�@�@�@�O�����@�@�@�����@�@�@�@sankagetsu
�S�@�@�l�����@�@�@�悩���A�@�@�@�@yokagetsu
�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�������A�@�@�@�@shikagetsu
�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@����@�@�@�@yonkagetsu
�T�@�@�܃����@�@�@�������@�@�@�@�@gokagetsu
�U�@�@�Z�����@�@�@��������@�@�@�@rokkagetsu
�V�@�@�������@�@�@�ȂȂ����A�@�@�@nanakagetsu
�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@���������@�@�@�@shichikagetsu
�W�@�@�������@�@�@�͂������@�@�@�@hakkagetsu
�X�@�@�ブ���@�@�@���イ�����@�@�@kyuukagetsu
�P�O�@�\�����@�@�@�Ƃ������A�@�@�@tookagetsu
�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@�@���イ�����@�@�@juukagetsu
�P�P�@�\�ꃖ���@�@���イ���������@juuichikagetsu
�P�Q�@�\���@�@���イ�ɂ����@�@juunikagetsu
�P�R�@�\�O�����@�@���イ�����@juusankagetsu
�P�S�@�\�l�����@�@�� see �y�S�@�l�����z
The rest has the expected pattern
�yI'm gonna make this list more complete... There's also some other ways to count months, and I haven't listed the way to count days yet. It's pretty confusing at some points, and I might have made mistakes. I also don't know which of multiple sollutions is most common. If someone could help me on this, I'll update the post. Thanks ^_^�z |
hi supermidget!! thank you for the list...but, i have a question...what is counting months for??just askin'... but thank you very much...cause you completed the list...thanks a lot... domou arigatou gozaimasu
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supermidget

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supermidget

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supermidget

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supermidget

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tabana

Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 9573 Location: �o�J�i�_ Country:   |
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| G-Pjube wrote: | | What would be best techniques to learn Japanese at home? I have lot's of materials but really don't know where to start. |
I listen the books on CD while, just when I'm about to sleep. I also, at first, tried to learn hiragana for 30 minutes to an hour each day. Before I knew it, I've learn them all.
The sooner your say romaji bye bye, the better. I also use some learning material for kids in Japan. They are, for the most part, written in hiragana and you can learn simple words, like a pig, cow, eyes, hand, colors and numbers... instead of trying to say stuff like "Where is the national museum and how much does it cost for 2 adults and 3 children." I tried this stuff at first and I thought it worked. I can remember those sentences, but I don't know what the words mean. It's no good for me.
| hyde's_Jr wrote: | hmmmm.... i was just wondering how do you say these sentences in japanese?
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I'm gonna screw/kick your sorry ass.
Someone stole my drawing.
That thing sure is creepy/disturbing.
Come on let's eat.
That's the power of the keyblade.
The final secret sword...
thanks!!!!!!! ^_^ ^^, ^_^ ^.^ |
Interesting sentences. I think the only one I know is for Come on let's eat. I think it's tabemasho. For let's drink is nomimasho. I'm not 100% sure though about those 2.  _________________
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gaijin mark
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supermidget

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| hyde's_Jr wrote: | hmmmm.... i was just wondering how do you say these sentences in japanese?
>>>
I'm gonna screw/kick your sorry ass.
Someone stole my drawing.
That thing sure is creepy/disturbing.
Come on let's eat.
That's the power of the keyblade.
The final secret sword...
thanks!!!!!!! ^_^ ^^, ^_^ ^.^ |
I hope by "screw/kick" you didn't mean "I'm gonna screw your sorry ass" cause I don't want to translate that
| Quote: | "I'll completely beat you (up) / kick your ass"
��������Ⴄ��!
yattukechau zo |
| Quote: | (It seems like) someone stole my drawing!
�N�������̕`��𓐂�����i�݂������j�I
dareka ga watashi no byouga wo nusunjatta (mitai da) !
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I'm not sure how to interpret your sentence "That thing sure is creepy". By "sure" you could mean "very / really" or "indeed" or something else. Also the different amount of disgust can lead to various different sentences. It's hard to tell which ones are stronger than others (it depends alot on intonation and context), but I somehow made a mix between having the strongest one on the bottom and the weakest on top, and grouping similar ones together. Some interesting sentences for you to choose from (or inspire you)
| Quote: | "That's scary, don't you think?" (not panicing)
�|����˂��A����I�@kowai yo nee, sore!
"That's scary!" (little panic)
�|����I����@kowai yo! sore
"No!!" (litt: "I don't like it", if you don't want to do something, or want it to stop)
�₾�I �i���₾�j
ya da! (iya da)
"(it's so scary; disgusting; creepy) makes me feel sick!" (disgust, complaint, not specifically panic)
����͐����C���������I
sore ha sugoi kimochi warui
"That shit's fucking scary!" (Litterally means the same as the previous one, but using this colloquial and indecent language makes it really rude).
�������������I����
sugei kimoi! sore |
| Quote: | "Let's eat, okay"
�H�ׂ悤��
tabeyou ne |
| Quote: | "That's the power of the KeyBlade"
����̓L�[�u���[�h�̗͂��B
sore ha KIIBUREEDO no chikara da |
| Quote: | "The final (ultimate) secret sword"
�I�ɂ̔閧�̌��E�E�E
shuukyoku no himitu no tsurugi |
I hope this helps... if you have any questions go ahead.  _________________
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