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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:01 am Post subject:
Tu_triky wrote:
Hell, the US was ranked 5th....like i believed that for a second.....
how the hell did USA rank 5th?! at least I understand how Holland got their 3rd place rank based on all the wins they had during the qualifiers: they didn't lose any games in 2 years time.
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:04 am Post subject:
Terryb wrote:
how the hell did USA rank 5th?! at least I understand how Holland got their 3rd place rank based on all the wins they had during the qualifiers: they didn't lose any games in 2 years time.
i have no clue...in any event your regional qualifiying matches are probably WAY harder than the ones the US played in....
the Czech Republic was ranked 2nd...and those fools didn't even get out of the 1st round.
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:50 am Post subject:
Juve, Lazio and Fiorentina relegated
Juventus, Lazio, and Fiorentina have been relegated from Serie A as a result of the match-fixing scandal.
AC Milan have avoided relegation, but will start next season with a 15-point deficit, and have had 44 points taken from their tally for the 2005-06 season.
Juventus have been stripped of their Serie A titles for each of the last two seasons. They will start next campaign with a 30-point deficit.
Fiorentina will start in Serie B with a 12-point deficit and Lazio a seven-point deficit.
The rulings mean that none of the four clubs will be allowed to play in Europe next season.
In addition to the punishments handed to the clubs, a number of the individual directors were suspended.
Former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi has been suspended from all football for five years.
Adriano Galliani, who was AC Milan vice-president, has been suspended for one year.
The four clubs will have up to three days to appeal to the Federal Court but a final verdict has to be announced before July 25, when the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) must give UEFA, Europe's football governing body, the list of teams that will compete in the continental club competitions in the 2006/07 campaign.
The scandal was uncovered as a result of a criminal investigation that was launched before the start of the 2004/05 campaign by the Naples prosecutors' office.
Telephone conversations between Moggi and a referees supremo in charge of the appointments of officials during the 2004/05 season were tapped.
Prosecutors based their probe on hundreds of bugged telephone calls between referee selectors, game officials and Moggi.
At the close of trading on Milan's stock exchange on Friday, Lazio shares had dropped 9.68% to 0.28 euros while Juventus went down to 1.45 euros - a fall of 1.15%.
An estimated 500 Lazio fans protested outside Rome's Parco dei Principi hotel as Federal Appeal Commission president Cesare Ruperto read out the verdicts inside.
More than 300 Fiorentina fans met up outside the Artemio Franchi stadium as a sign of protest but it was a different story in Turin with few Juventus supporters turning up at the club's headquarters in Via Galileo Ferraris.
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject:
Tu_triky wrote:
Juve, Lazio and Fiorentina relegated
Juventus, Lazio, and Fiorentina have been relegated from Serie A as a result of the match-fixing scandal.
AC Milan have avoided relegation, but will start next season with a 15-point deficit, and have had 44 points taken from their tally for the 2005-06 season.
Juventus have been stripped of their Serie A titles for each of the last two seasons. They will start next campaign with a 30-point deficit.
Fiorentina will start in Serie B with a 12-point deficit and Lazio a seven-point deficit.
The rulings mean that none of the four clubs will be allowed to play in Europe next season.
In addition to the punishments handed to the clubs, a number of the individual directors were suspended.
Former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi has been suspended from all football for five years.
Adriano Galliani, who was AC Milan vice-president, has been suspended for one year.
The four clubs will have up to three days to appeal to the Federal Court but a final verdict has to be announced before July 25, when the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) must give UEFA, Europe's football governing body, the list of teams that will compete in the continental club competitions in the 2006/07 campaign.
The scandal was uncovered as a result of a criminal investigation that was launched before the start of the 2004/05 campaign by the Naples prosecutors' office.
Telephone conversations between Moggi and a referees supremo in charge of the appointments of officials during the 2004/05 season were tapped.
Prosecutors based their probe on hundreds of bugged telephone calls between referee selectors, game officials and Moggi.
At the close of trading on Milan's stock exchange on Friday, Lazio shares had dropped 9.68% to 0.28 euros while Juventus went down to 1.45 euros - a fall of 1.15%.
An estimated 500 Lazio fans protested outside Rome's Parco dei Principi hotel as Federal Appeal Commission president Cesare Ruperto read out the verdicts inside.
More than 300 Fiorentina fans met up outside the Artemio Franchi stadium as a sign of protest but it was a different story in Turin with few Juventus supporters turning up at the club's headquarters in Via Galileo Ferraris.
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject:
They should be fkcn ashamed ofthemselves, how dare they to fix matches when they don't even need to to win. Especially Juventus. It's a disgrace to the club(history), the players, the fans everything. If I was supporter of any of these clubs I'd ban them for life.
AC Milan's punishement I don't understand, if they were involved at all, they should be relegated as well.
and even more unbelievable is they scream: IT'S UNFAIR! WE HAVE BEEN PUNISHED TOO SEVERELY.
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:44 am Post subject:
The question is : how much more the Italian will shame the football? Will they stop with their foul actions? And this isn't even related to the World Cup.
Anyway, I find the punishment a little too light...
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:45 am Post subject:
Terryb wrote:
They should be fkcn ashamed ofthemselves, how dare they to fix matches when they don't even need to to win. Especially Juventus. It's a disgrace to the club(history), the players, the fans everything. If I was supporter of any of these clubs I'd ban them for life.
AC Milan's punishement I don't understand, if they were involved at all, they should be relegated as well.
and even more unbelievable is they scream: IT'S UNFAIR! WE HAVE BEEN PUNISHED TOO SEVERELY.
your disdain...i share in it....i know, it's quite amazing in a very foul way...as i mentioned several pages ago...it's a stain on the entire league and it really tarnishes the credibility of the sport which is obviously huge in Italy...affects the image of those not even directly involved unfortunately.
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:20 am Post subject:
Van Nistelrooy to sign for Real Madrid on Wednesday
Ruud van Nistelrooy seems set to seal his move from Manchester United to Real Madrid tomorrow.
Although neither club are making any comment on the striker, rumours are circulating that the 30-year-old will have a medical in the Spanish capital on Wednesday.
If the speculation is correct, United have presumably reached a compromise over the fee after Sir Alex Ferguson suggested the Red Devils would demand £15million for the former PSV Eindhoven star.
Although Bayern Munich and a number of Premiership clubs had expressed interest in Van Nistelrooy, one of only eight players in United history to score 150 goals for the club, Real were always his favoured option.
With star striker Ronaldo sidelined after opting to return to Brazil for a knee operation, new Real coach Fabio Capello needed a proven goalscorer and earlier this week expressed his admiration for the player.
Providing Van Nistelrooy comes through his medical with no problems, it is anticipated he will be unveiled at some point in the next 24 hours and be reunited again with David Beckham after spending two successful years with the former England skipper before his own move to Madrid.
However, sources close to United cast doubt on the reports, privately claiming there had been no deal with Madrid and that Van Nistelrooy was still officially a Red Devils player.
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:56 am Post subject:
G-Pjube wrote:
This is not what really happened according to the French media:
They believe the rest of the world saw the wrong match. According to them, Materazzi was at fault:
what a nice match it was, indeed
btw, I don't really like soccer, I'm more into American Football (watch/play/game).
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:26 am Post subject:
Ferguson ready for Ruud return
Sir Alex Ferguson is prepared to roll out the welcome mat for Ruud van Nistelrooy's return to training with Manchester United on Monday.
The Dutch striker's future has been the subject of intense speculation throughout the summer, with both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich heavily linked with the 30-year-old. However, no deal will be completed over the weekend, meaning the forward is expected back at United's Carrington training base for the start of his pre-season work on Monday.
"Ruud is not definitely leaving and I expect to see him at training on Monday," Ferguson told PA Sport. "I spoke to (chief executive) David Gill on the phone on Thursday and there is no development as far as Real Madrid is concerned."
He added: "They have made an offer, we have rejected it. That is where the situation lies. If they don't come back in and increase their offer, he won't be going and I would be content with that. It would not bother me one bit.
"He is a striker who can score upwards of 20 goals a season and there are not many of those going around."
Although Ferguson could be playing the diplomatic card, United have made no secret of their desire to play hardball over Van Nistelrooy, citing the ��29million Chelsea have paid for Andriy Shevchenko and the ��8.5million it cost Everton to sign Andrew Johnson from Crystal Palace, then questioning which player Van Nistelrooy's past record suggests he should be closest to.
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that is interesting, the relationship between manager and player has been really bad. and Ferguson always sells even his keyplayers when they speak up their mind (it happened with Cantona, Stam, Beckham, Keane) they really should sell him now before he drops in price more in the following year...
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:06 am Post subject:
'Van Nistelrooy wants to join Bayern' - Rummenigge
Karl-Heinz Rummenigge claims Ruud van Nistelrooy has informed Bayern Munich of his intention to play for the German club.
Van Nistelrooy has been linked with a move away from Old Trafford after an end-of-season row with boss Sir Alex Ferguson, with Real Madrid and Bayern leading the chase.
Rummenigge, Bayern's general director, revealed the striker has been in talks with the Bundesliga club.
'Van Nistelrooy has told us he would like to play for us next season,' Rummenigge told the Bild newspaper.
'We have already spoken about money with him but it would be United who will finally decide.'
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:04 am Post subject:
Oh yeah, totally forgot to post: Dennis Bergkamp Testimonial was played last saturday. It was the first ever official match in the newly built Fly Emirates (Arsenal) Stadium, and they invited all his old buddies both from Ajax and Arsenal. I had tears in my eyes watching him the last time on the pitch
Bergkamp is my alltime favorite player, such a technical genius and still oh so good even at his age 37.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:44 am Post subject:
bah:
Duo back in Serie A
Lazio and Fiorentina have been reinstated to Serie A but Juventus remain in Serie B following their appeals against the sanctions imposed on them as a result of the match-fixing scandal.
The Rome and Florence outfits were originally relegated to Serie B and docked seven and 12 points respectively for the new season, but they returned to the top flight following an announcement by federal court president Piero Sandulli on Tuesday night.
Fiorentina will start the new season with a 19-point deduction, while Lazio will start with an 11-point deficit.
Juventus, the club hardest hit for breaking Italian Football Federation (FIGC) rules, remain in Serie B but have had their 30-point deduction reduced to 17.
But AC Milan, who avoided relegation under the original verdict, have seen their 15-point penalty for next season reduced to eight.
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which means AC Milan is allowed to play qualifiers for the Champions League
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:54 am Post subject:
Terryb wrote:
bah:
Duo back in Serie A
which means AC Milan is allowed to play qualifiers for the Champions League
Bleh. I can't even feel angry anymore, the football has really become 10 % play / 90 % business and for Milan to play qualifiers... I can't express words for it.
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