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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject:
Swedish_Japan_Lover wrote:
oh, i will!!! 70 days left, and then our "get to japan to kill johnny and take over johnnys with a new name"-plan can get to work!!! xD
i agree with you!!! one problem...how are we gonna kill the old man?
we could poison him...one of us should be a chef for mr.johnny or something and put poison in his food! or...any ideas? LOL
and what's the new name???
70 days left? lol...why? sorry if i ask.
we should make a group called "ANTI-MR.JOHNNY" or something like that...anyone have ideas???
i was quite happy with the 2nd single of tegomass...and i thought people are going to be happy with it...but i see some people is not really impressed and such and i kinda agree to what they are saying...
i was going to say something else but i forgot...oh well... _________________
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject:
Harukamaru wrote:
i agree with you!!! one problem...how are we gonna kill the old man?
we could poison him...one of us should be a chef for mr.johnny or something and put poison in his food! or...any ideas? LOL
and what's the new name???
70 days left? lol...why? sorry if i ask.
we should make a group called "ANTI-MR.JOHNNY" or something like that...anyone have ideas???
haha because in 70 days im going to japan for real
yaaahh but then it have to be a really painful poison... and no one can expect us to do it... although they wont care since noone really likes johnny so
YOH!! anti-mr.johnny seems lika a good bandname... it could be an alteregoband of news!!! muahaha xD
"fans no sekushi boys"? ive no idea xDD
and FAA!!: WELCOME BACK LAHH! wondered where youve gone to xD _________________
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject:
Harukamaru: '70 days left' emma will going to japan and start our planned!
hantuwriter: welcome back while I was talking about the planned, I'm wondering where are you? we have 70 days more ha.. ha!
monta: you watch dandori?.. ha ha.. yeah its sucks for me too while watching it I was like OMG I'm watching this??.. then I just skip and skip.. just watch massu part ha.. ha.. at the end.. I just get, its about cheering and massu smile soooo... sweet ha ha...
I don't think that I don't like tegomass... coz I do like their songs.. and they really have good voice. but having new single at the this time really make me sick! NewS HwM just in the market for 2 weeks! I really want them to be more with NewS..
And I agree with yamapifans about keichan and shige.. yeah luckily keichan got the host activity.. I just feel that, that old man just make this industries like his's!
any news about the link.. for the Haneru@ 100yen? _________________
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject:
Let's just say that JE is trying to make subunits within NEWS. Assuming this is true (I know I mentioned it first, but I was just coming up with theories), I don't think that Koyama and Shige would be put into a unit so soon after the formation of TegoMass and after NEWS' return. There's also the fact that voice-wise, the two of them probably wouldn't make it far. Not unless Kusano is with them ^^;;. Of course, this is just pure speculation. It's most likely that JE are grabbing the opportunity to get more sales off of the two great singers in NEWS. They couldn't let NEWS release another single so close to their latest one (7 weeks after), and it probably didn't suit the other debuted groups too, so TegoMass got it. I'm not happy with TegoMass, but hey, if that is what it takes for NEWS to climb up again, then I'll accept it.
Shige is probably the most underrated member of NEWS. Granted, his voice isn't that great, but it does shine when singing certain songs. And with his witty and clever brain, he writes great articles and makes for a funny host. But, he needs a really great self-confidence booster. It does seem like his confidence goes up and down like a rollercoaster. Hosting-wise, he needs someone whom he can work off for him to show what he can really do, like how he can work off Koyama, but, unfortunately, if he is with Koyama, Koyama just overshadows him too much. _________________
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They couldn't let NEWS release another single so close to their latest one (7 weeks after), and it probably didn't suit the other debuted groups too, so TegoMass got it.
Why not? Arashi and Kat-tun released the singles around 3months apart from the previous one. Anyway, whatever reason, just wouldn't like this idea.....btw, the member of Southern All Star who's singing the theme song of Yamapi's new drama is going to release the single on the same day as Tegomass.......sorry to say, but as Yamapifans, I wish the single can rank Oricon #1, b/c it's related to Yamapi's drama directly. I hope both the drama and the theme song can become a big hit.
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:52 am Post subject:
3 months apart is 12 weeks.. that's 5 weeks more difference than the difference between NEWS' single and TegoMass' single. Without even looking at JE groups, I don't think that any other artiste has released two singles within 7 weeks of each other. It's not only a matter of promotion time and energy, but also for there to be a cooling period for fans to get them excited about another single (and also for money ). Sometimes that is why artistes don't release an album every year. Frankly speaking, I don't think I would be that hyped about another NEWS single so soon after HwM. And there are also the people who aren't fans, the ones that sales depend on. They'd probably be just "oh, another song..."
I guess we'll have to see who gets to be the top that week. An anime theme pitted against a drama theme... might be interesting. Me, I'm rooting for TegoMass, just so that yet another JE artiste will be number one, LOL. _________________
-the reason that talk is cheap is that the supply far exceeds the demand-IWGP
3 months apart is 12 weeks.. that's 5 weeks more difference than the difference between NEWS' single and TegoMass' single. Without even looking at JE groups, I don't think that any other artiste has released two singles within 7 weeks of each other. It's not only a matter of promotion time and energy, but also for there to be a cooling period for fans to get them excited about another single (and also for money ). Sometimes that is why artistes don't release an album every year. Frankly speaking, I don't think I would be that hyped about another NEWS single so soon after HwM. And there are also the people who aren't fans, the ones that sales depend on. They'd probably be just "oh, another song..."
I guess we'll have to see who gets to be the top that week. An anime theme pitted against a drama theme... might be interesting. Me, I'm rooting for TegoMass, just so that yet another JE artiste will be number one, LOL.
Well....more precisely Tegomass's single and NewS single is 8 weeks apart, so the difference is 4weeks. And does Johnny want money that desperately, that he can't wait for 4 more weeks? And it's obvious that NewS's CD sale is double to triple or even more than Tegomass's CD....And what's the difference btw Tegomass releasing new single 8 weeks later compare to NewS releasing 2nd single 8 weeks later? Tegoshi and Massu's fans may not be so hype about another single so soon either, for Tegomass and NewS are both Tegoshi and Massu's songs. And fans of other NewS members or NewS fans may not buy the CD either......If Tegomass form a special group or just work together w/ other artistes outside NewS, that's another story, it'd bring fresh idea and product to the market........I just don't understand why Johnny has to make such plan.....especially at the time when NewS just returned.....thought that even if they keep Tegomass, they will side it aside and focus more on NewS for at least 1 yr....After such a long time of rest, shouldn't they try to let NewS appear in front of the audience as much as possible, to recapture the fans? Right now it's no difference from the suspension period, everybody still doing their own stuff....still no NewS's CM, no NewS's own variety show, no big group projects like KT or K8 or any other Johnny's groups do....NewS was said to meaning members coming from North, East, West, South......but now it looks to me they are actually going to North, East, West, South.....I guess Johnny probably half give up on this group now....sigh......anyway, don't want to sound too harsh, I'll shut up, sorry.....
Oh, just one more thing....about the Southern All Star member's solo single......can anyone tell me how famous and popular is Southern All Star in Japan? I only know Yamapi is their fans......I was talking about these two singles and my friend just laughed at me being naive and questioned if I really think Tegomass can beat Southern All Star.......@_@
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:57 am Post subject:
I thought that TegoMass would have it harder to be number one
Well, I don't know how your friend would base popularity, but, Southern All Stars have topped the Oricon charts with a number of their singles and have had top 3 hits as well. Granted, they are an old group, but I think that that gives them the edge over TegoMass, considering that they are more established. The fact that TegoMass debuted with a song titled Miso Soup definitely doesn't really factor well for me. But still, who tops the chart will depend on the song I guess. For all we know, it might be some other artiste who comes out top, with a really great song.
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Thing is, the song is set to be the theme for the anime. So it's not a matter of delaying the release of a single. May 16 is already more than one month after the anime starts to air, and releasing a single even later than that, no matter who the artiste is, could possibly decrease sales. They need time to build up the enthusiasm for the song, but taking too long would make people lose interest.
TegoMass' songs are Tegoshi and Massu's songs, yes, but I don't agree that NEWS' songs are also their songs. The fact that they are a part of NEWS does not make NEWS' songs their songs. And maybe, out there, there just might be people who didn't like NEWS, but grew to like TegoMass. Although I personally think that that is unlikely, who knows, there might just be people like that.
I don't want to think that JE have given up on NEWS. The fact that they have spent money on NEWS since their return is a good sign. Heck, the fact that they returned during the countdown and overshadowed the other groups was enough. Maybe they're using TegoMass not only for sales and to increase the popularity of the duo, but also to subtly increase the popularity of NEWS. Anime theme songs are a great way to gain a new set of fans and exposure of the song. NEWS have depended on Yamapi's popularity for too long, and they can't depend on Yamapi forever. Maybe they are doing it bit by bit, for too large a push can turn people away. Maybe Koyama and Shige's turn to be in the spotlight will come. I don't know where all this puts Kusano and Uchi, but I sure hope that it puts them somewhere.
I know I'm just putting out thoughts without really giving much thought to logic, but, I suppose I always want everything to have a reason that I can accept ^^;;. And please don't shut up XD. I need someone that would give a different view point. Plus, don't you think that it's been a long time since this thread had a serious discussion ^^ (hoho.. I'm loving it) _________________
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:19 am Post subject:
wow this topic are quite tough for me.. ha ha..
er.. about the Southern All Star thing...
all I know about them is.. they have been in the industry for so long.. their first debut is in late 70's... and I do like their song!!!
I do like their song like I love to listern Glay.. Bz'... and Mr Children. their song for me are dammed good! Where I can't say no to...
For sure Tegomass can beat Southern All Star, if its based on their appearence.. coz they are old already ha ha..
even if me, I will choose tego and massu smile compared to kuwata keisuke !! but when we talk about their song.. and their 'power' in the Japan music industry... na......
actually Yamapi bring me to this group
Southern All Star - Yamapi favorate group
Mr Children - Yamapi favorate song is 'Everythings Is you' by
Glay - there is a rumors that Yamapi will sing together with Glay in Kurosagi
now I feel like out of topic gomen ne! but it's still yamapi involved.. _________________
Just read from other site that Massu announced in his own radio programme that Tegomass is regular group and so will keep on releasing more and more CDs later�c�c.if that's the case, will the Tegoshi-only and Massu-only fans still willing to buy NewS's CD?? Just like Ryo-chan's fans may not always buy both K8 and NewS's CD.......especially since NewS's most significant member is the leader, Tegoshi-only / Massu-only fans may only wait for Tegomass CDs to buy now.....Usually Johnny's groups release singles every 3-4 months, so if it'll probably like NewS release single in March, June, Sept, Dec, and Tegomass in May, Aug, Nov, Jan�c�cthat means Tegoshi/Massu's fans probably have to buy CDs every month�c�c.which is not so likely, so they will pick some of the singles to buy instead of buying every single one......eventually it may affect NewS's sale......or if for this reason Johnny doesn't let NewS / Tegomass release CD that frequently, it'd also mean less CD sale......hm.........
What? Southern All Stars debut in 1970s? Wow, that's old......the oldest songs I would like to listen to is the 1980s......
BTW, read from someone's post saying that Kinki Kids probably will release CD on 5/16 as well.......but I don't think it's so possible, since NewS and KK are from same record company, don't think the company would like to release both group's CD at the same time.
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:15 am Post subject:
na.. if tegomass become regular group it's really not good ne.. I was agree with you.. for sure it will affect NewS sales! OMG why they do this? K8, Arashi or Kattun didn't have to face this..
It's like unfair to NewS! if this are for temporary than I will understand that all this is to promote NewS after the suspended..
even though they think that NewS have loyal fan based.. but for sure NewS fans have to choose wherether they want to buy NewS or Tegomass! JE just like greedy sucking their artist fans!
Yamapifans: Southern All Stars first debut in 1978.. so I think it's late 70's so you still can listen to their song..
here are my fav clips.. since all my fav are here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwya4YMNeV4
if you interested.. _________________
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:24 am Post subject:
Regular, huh. Man, it really sucks when something that is suspected becomes reality . I don't know if NEWS' single sales would be affected. I'm still on the fence with my opinion on this. I could see where you guys are coming from with the thought that the sales might decrease, but I also think there might not be a difference. I mean, even with the existing groups at the moment, there are fans who cross over, not just within the Johnny's but also with other artistes. I'd say that quite a number of NEWS fans are fans of others, and that so far hasn't affected NEWS. Though I do agree that if the same people release a single every two months, things would get pretty worrying (boring, to be exact ^^; ). Here's to hoping that TegoMass wouldn't be releasing singles at the same frequency as the other usual. I'd say one single anually or bianually is enough
Oh wait. Remember the news that a group would debut in spring? Well, it's already spring, and so far I haven't heard anything yet about a new group. Don't tell me that TegoMass is it... that the fact they'll be a regular unit is taken as the anticipated debut. Oh, if it is, . There had better be some news soon... _________________
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Actually they just announced a new JR group called Hay Say 7. But I don't know if they will debut immediately......b/c many members are still very little (one of them is the little brother in Nobuta)
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:01 am Post subject:
Nah, I don't think that that is the group that they would want to debut. It would be too ridiculous. If they do debut that group, I don't know whether I'll die from laughing too much or from cursing JE ^^;; _________________
-the reason that talk is cheap is that the supply far exceeds the demand-IWGP
If Johnny really want to make NewS V6-like, since they already formed a 2-ppl team Tegomass, they should seperate the rest of the members evenly, which means two more 2-ppl groups: RyoPi, KeiShige, Tegomass. If that really happen, I swear I'll buy every single CD of RyoPi and only continue buying NewS CD if the CD cover and the DVD are very attractive. LOL Ah, I suddenly love this sub-group idea ne!! RyoPi~~RyoPi~~RyoPi~~RyoPi~~RyoPi~~RyoPi~~RyoPi~~RyoPi~~Please, let my dream comes true~~~ But then I know this wish of mine is selfish, for it's very obvious that KeiShige will suffer a lot in CD sale......but.......it's RyoPi~~
Speaking of Ryo-chan, last nite they played "1 Litre of Tears SP"~~~~~!!!! AHHHH~~~~~~~Ryo-chan kakkoi~~~~He's 1 of the most kakkoi doctors I ever seen!! >v< Asou-kun introduced me to Ryo, to NewS, and indirectly to Pi....His eyes and sad emotion is what pull me into Ryo.
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:44 am Post subject:
LOL, attractive, indeed. But, I don't think Yamapi would ever be in a subgroup. He's strong enough solo. And Ryo, well, he's already got K8. 2 groups are enough, thank you very much . I want to see more of him in dramas...
You know, no matter how I look at it, Ryo just doesn't look old enough to be a doctor . He looks young, which is good for him ^^. I'll be waiting for the subs to come out... yay!! _________________
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:46 am Post subject:
hantuwriter and yamapifans I think you both should apply for a job in JE corp. as market analysts
But please keep on sharing..I usually lock my door when I read your comments *need complete silence for focus* it's that interesting.
Here's my 2 cents I think the company's trying to push for another boom. 2005 was JE entertainment fever time, but the groups were just debuting around that time. This time around, with an established number of fanbase, I think they're trying to gain more control of the market by putting their artists everywhere. I'm not sure how overexposure works for Japanese fans, but I feel that JE is trying to secure their popularity by continunously pushing a variety of different artists, new pairings, new groups, and such. The thing is that if they just focus on one or two groups, the one or two will lose their popularity eventually. Johnny would need to recover from that relapse, but if the cycle of new artists and new pairings are always available, they wouldn't need to see that drop in total sales.
Shortly: I think they're covering for the asses as supposed to paying attention to their artists and spend on 1 or 2 focus groups.
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). Sometimes that is why artistes don't release an album every year. Frankly speaking, I don't think I would be that hyped about another NEWS single so soon after HwM. And there are also the people who aren't fans, the ones that sales depend on. They'd probably be just "oh, another song..."
. I don't know if NEWS' single sales would be affected. I'm still on the fence with my opinion on this. I could see where you guys are coming from with the thought that the sales might decrease, but I also think there might not be a difference. I mean, even with the existing groups at the moment, there are fans who cross over, not just within the Johnny's but also with other artistes. I'd say that quite a number of NEWS fans are fans of others, and that so far hasn't affected NEWS. Though I do agree that if the same people release a single every two months, things would get pretty worrying (boring, to be exact ^^; ). Here's to hoping that TegoMass wouldn't be releasing singles at the same frequency as the other usual. I'd say one single anually or bianually is enough 
. There had better be some news soon...
