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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject:
qilver wrote:
NY to Narita(the airport i flew in..and probably you will too, unless it is Kansai airport, near Osaka/Kyoto. Flight time is almost 14hrs long. I figure that the flight, it'll only take a few hrs or so longer than flying out of LAX to Narita. ok NY is 3 hrs ahead of LA..., the time difference from NY and Tokyo is only 14 hrs, versus 17hrs diff than LA-Tokyo. If you leave at 10am, which is 2pm the next day...(you flight out example on say...Friday, you arrive the next day, Saturday...). So, you fly out 10am, and arrive 14hrs later, at 2am, your time, but it is 6pm Tokyo time. (14hr flight time + 14hr time difference = 28hrs, when you land, so from 10am on your watch, when you fly out of NY, it'll be 2pm the next day when you land in Tokyo, does that make any sense? give or take an hour of head/tail wind on the flight and for time departure/arrival, and/or, daylight savings...could be 16hr time difference btw NY-Tokyo. For me, i flew out 1pm, LAX, arrived 5pm the next day, 11hr flight...or a little less, and 17 hour time difference, 28hrs.
good sleep is always good....staying up, might not hurt, a small nap on the plane could help, with you enduring the daytime when you land. Try to stay up as best you can until say...8 or 9pm, or later. You might wake up super early like 3 or 4am, adjusting to the time there. i landed near dinner time, so i just had to stay up another 4 to 5 hours, until sleep...something like that....for you, you might have to stay up a little longer, to make an easier adjustment to the time/sleep.
Yep, that makes sense.
Just the answer I was looking for .
I will do as I said before (and now you have also confirmed hehe), stay up and endure the rest of the day hehe. I doubt I will have problem staying up in the plane (I never get sleepy on planes, I can bring psp, books, movies etc. etc.) and then again I have stayed up over 48+ hours up before without even drinking cofee so that plan works for me
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Yep, that makes sense.
Just the answer I was looking for .
I will do as I said before (and now you have also confirmed hehe), stay up and endure the rest of the day hehe. I doubt I will have problem staying up in the plane (I never get sleepy on planes, I can bring psp, books, movies etc. etc.) and then again I have stayed up over 48+ hours up before without even drinking cofee so that plan works for me
Thanks once again
i think the excitment, anticipation of your first visit to Japan, might add to that...and you probably will be able to stay up, and endure the time diff/tiredness, esp..if you stayed up that many hours and more before. If you can sneak in a nap on the plane, do so...if you can.
when are you going to Japan? and how long?
what specific areas are you visiting in Japan?
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject:
qilver wrote:
i think the excitment, anticipation of your first visit to Japan, might add to that...and you probably will be able to stay up, and endure the time diff/tiredness, esp..if you stayed up that many hours and more before. If you can sneak in a nap on the plane, do so...if you can.
when are you going to Japan? and how long?
what specific areas are you visiting in Japan?
If everything goes according to plans, then mid August, for 2 weeks.
Still don't have place for place guide/areas I will visit. Will take a few days to see some old temples/shrines, visit Kyoto, Osaka, and Hokkaido. Other than that is mostly Tokyo for now. Hopefully my friend being born and raised in Tokyo should know the good spots (crosses fingers hehe) _________________
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject:
I will also have to deal with the jet-lag, never had experience with it. I will arrive at 11.00 am in the morning at Narita after being awake for lets say 20 hours. But I will stay a whole day in Narita and sleep at a hotel there before moving to Tokyo, so I will try to get to see the few tourist attractions in Narita and move to my hotel pretty soon. Maybe get to sleep at 10.00 pm after being awake for 30 hours so I can get up at a normal time. I will see how things work out, not really worrying about it..
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:52 am Post subject:
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I will also have to deal with the jet-lag, never had experience with it. I will arrive at 11.00 am in the morning at Narita after being awake for lets say 20 hours. But I will stay a whole day in Narita and sleep at a hotel there before moving to Tokyo, so I will try to get to see the few tourist attractions in Narita and move to my hotel pretty soon. Maybe get to sleep at 10.00 pm after being awake for 30 hours so I can get up at a normal time. I will see how things work out, not really worrying about it..
I would suggest heading to Tokyo the day you arrive, rather than staying the night at Narita. Keep in mind that Tokyo is 1hr by high speed rail from Narita.
In regards to jet lag, here's how I deal with it.....I don't really. The adrenaline rush being there more than compensates for any lack of sleep I get. If I'm awake at 4am in the morning, then I just head to Tsukiji market to check out some fresh fish. I have never overslept while being in Japan. My mental alarm clock always wakes me up, often early in the morning.
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:56 am Post subject:
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I would suggest heading to Tokyo the day you arrive, rather than staying the night at Narita. Keep in mind that Tokyo is 1hr by high speed rail from Narita.
I will study Japanese for a month in Tokyo, so I wont have to rush to get a glimp of the city . Its also part of a program that I have to follow so dont have any choise actually..
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:57 am Post subject:
�P���B�� wrote:
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I would suggest heading to Tokyo the day you arrive, rather than staying the night at Narita. Keep in mind that Tokyo is 1hr by high speed rail from Narita.
I will study Japanese for a month in Tokyo, so I wont have to rush to get a glimp of the city . Its also part of a program that I have to follow so dont have any choise actually..
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:02 am Post subject:
TaintedWisdom wrote:
If everything goes according to plans, then mid August, for 2 weeks.
Still don't have place for place guide/areas I will visit. Will take a few days to see some old temples/shrines, visit Kyoto, Osaka, and Hokkaido. Other than that is mostly Tokyo for now. Hopefully my friend being born and raised in Tokyo should know the good spots (crosses fingers hehe)
Wow, just add Fukuoka and you'll have most of the length of Japan covered.
Without seeing your plans, I'm still guessing you should only have to purchase a 1-week Rail Pass. But that could change.
I would suggest heading to Tokyo the day you arrive, rather than staying the night at Narita. Keep in mind that Tokyo is 1hr by high speed rail from Narita.
In regards to jet lag, here's how I deal with it.....I don't really. The adrenaline rush being there more than compensates for any lack of sleep I get. If I'm awake at 4am in the morning, then I just head to Tsukiji market to check out some fresh fish. I have never overslept while being in Japan. My mental alarm clock always wakes me up, often early in the morning.
my first two visits to Japan were spent in Narita for the first night, then off to Tokyo thereafter. This next visit, i will staying the whole time in Tokyo, and not staying in Narita. Exactly, the adrenaline, excitement of being in Japan, i was able to stay up, despite being tired from the long flight. I've been to Tsukiji, but got there just after 5am, so no auction...it was already done with. My mental clock, yea, i got up around 5 to 6am every day in Japan!, sometimes earlier.
If everything goes according to plans, then mid August, for 2 weeks.
Still don't have place for place guide/areas I will visit. Will take a few days to see some old temples/shrines, visit Kyoto, Osaka, and Hokkaido. Other than that is mostly Tokyo for now. Hopefully my friend being born and raised in Tokyo should know the good spots (crosses fingers hehe)
ah...still rainy season when you go in august...and will be hot and humid during that time. 2 weeks, that is about how long i will be going for too. I'd say you can see Tokyo, Kyoto, and maybe another place, comfortably, with enough time.... Hokkaido? that might be possible, but to maximize your time, a flight might be better, perhaps.....but it will cost more. I am guessing a one hour flight from Tokyo to Hokkaido, trains? does it go there directly? might take much much longer, even if Shinkansen trains go there and back. I can spend one week, alone....all in Tokyo, there is just so much to see there...the other week, would be spent all in Kyoto...if i had four weeks...i would venture out to other parts of Japan, and explore! only if i had that kind of vacation...
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:41 am Post subject:
qilver wrote:
ah...still rainy season when you go in august...and will be hot and humid during that time. 2 weeks, that is about how long i will be going for too. I'd say you can see Tokyo, Kyoto, and maybe another place, comfortably, with enough time.... Hokkaido? that might be possible, but to maximize your time, a flight might be better, perhaps.....but it will cost more. I am guessing a one hour flight from Tokyo to Hokkaido, trains? does it go there directly? might take much much longer, even if Shinkansen trains go there and back. I can spend one week, alone....all in Tokyo, there is just so much to see there...the other week, would be spent all in Kyoto...if i had four weeks...i would venture out to other parts of Japan, and explore! only if i had that kind of vacation...
Hehe, I'm from hot weathers, so I dont mind (I've walked comfortably with temperatures exceeding 98+ and many times 105) I prefer heat anyday over cold. Now I'm not the biggest fan of rain, but during august is a bit less than july, so I guess I will deal with it hehe. _________________
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:15 am Post subject:
TaintedWisdom wrote:
Hehe, I'm from hot weathers, so I dont mind (I've walked comfortably with temperatures exceeding 98+ and many times 105) I prefer heat anyday over cold. Now I'm not the biggest fan of rain, but during august is a bit less than july, so I guess I will deal with it hehe.
I was there in August one year and all I remember was that a typhoon hit Japan. Come to think of it, it might have been September.
Hehe, I'm from hot weathers, so I dont mind (I've walked comfortably with temperatures exceeding 98+ and many times 105) I prefer heat anyday over cold. Now I'm not the biggest fan of rain, but during august is a bit less than july, so I guess I will deal with it hehe.
yea....Japan sure gets humid....although for me...it was bearable...not overly hot and humid, but i remember it raining quite a bit, especially when i was in Kyoto..probably this time around too.
so you are going a month after i go....it should be good, if you have any questions/comments, just post.
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:19 am Post subject:
Japan is known to be a country that is still somewhat mysterious to foreigners (its getting slightly bether though), because the Japanese gouvernment isnt keen on letting foreigners getting in and out of the country easily..
It should be possible for anyone with at least a bachelor degree and not a suspicious background (and ofcourse having enough financial rescources) to study in Japan for maybe 1 or 2 years. With studying I mean study Japanese language at one of the many Foreign institutes there are in Japan. After this, you could go study at a Japanese university if language isnt a barrier anymore and again you can pull trough financially..
Another way to live in Japan for a year or so, is by participating with a program like JET. In this way, you can work as an english teacher at a Japanese school. You arent paid very well so its definetly not something you should do for years, but its a great way to get to know the country..
Now for living in Japan your whole life, you should be able to do something that Japanese cant do. As I said, english teachers are always welcome because we all know english isnt the strongest side of the Japanese natives. But then again, you will most likely be underpaid. So any other jobs ? Working as entertainer maybe. There are many western models working in Japan, that dont look that handsome but just because they have western looks they have the job. Ofcourse there are also jobs out there that you may be able to get, even though you arent a real unique person in that section but there are many foreign companies situated in Japan that might accept you, also because of your Japanese language knowledge.
If you are really desperate to live/work in Japan, I think it must be possible IF you have a decent educational background and you accept the fact that you may have to look for ages to get a job AND your Japanese speaking level is quite outstanding.
I have always been interested in working and living in a foreign country myself, Japan is definetly a country I am aiming at. My plan ? I will start studying Product Design next year and after getting my BA, Im planning to study Japanese in Japan for a year atleast and finish my MA in Japan. Then the search to any foreign product design companies can start or I may try to settle my own business in Japan. Dreaming never hurts..
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:35 am Post subject:
Yes I have heard similar stories and whatnot.
Later in the future (after I finish med school and settle down a bit), I plan to work in Japan for some years. If there is something I know is, that Japanese government love American doctors, as there are hardly any. Infact, there are some programs that pay doctors (even general) way more than the max a doctor can get here in the states. _________________
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:04 am Post subject:
hi all,
my friend and i want to go to japan this summer-- kind of soon so the ticket prices are KINDA rising so we hafta get on the ball and purchase tix soon...
the problem is that alot of hostels we're looking up are completely booked, or really expensive during the time we'd like to go (june 13th for 3-4 weeks). we'll probably end up staying in the tokyo area for most of the time, but we'd also like to climb fuji and go to the kyoto/kobe/osaka area.
does anyone have any suggestions on any other places to stay, or what we should do? also, does anyone know when the fireworks/summer festival is? (i heard 2nd week of july but not sure)... if it's the 2nd week of july, maybe we'll stay and check out the festival.. otherwise we'd prolly come back after 3 weeks...
thaaanks. im soo excited! also want to try and check out a concert but of course tickets are impossible to get _________________
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:41 am Post subject:
my new passport has arrived and my father has just offered to buy me an air ticket to japan as he's feeling generous at the moment. how can i say no?.... _________________
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:43 am Post subject:
kenjilina wrote:
my new passport has arrived and my father has just offered to buy me an air ticket to japan as he's feeling generous at the moment. how can i say no?....
my new passport has arrived and my father has just offered to buy me an air ticket to japan as he's feeling generous at the moment. how can i say no?....
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