Learning Japanese on our own! (self studying)

[Anime Dad]

I think the reason they specify a certain order is because the kana turn out better and it's meant to be easier to remember.

Check out http://www.tokyomokyo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=87 for kana & kanji practice sheets with the correct stroke order shown

[thtl]

Anime Dad wrote:

I think the reason they specify a certain order is because the kana turn out better and it's meant to be easier to remember. Check out http://www.tokyomokyo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=87 for kana & kanji practice sheets with the correct stroke order shown

Even the English alphabets have a set of stroke orders - you'll know if you even practiced penmanship in primary school.

[bmwracer]

thtl wrote:

Even the English alphabets have a set of stroke orders - you'll know if you even practiced penmanship in primary school.

Yeah, that's why doctors have such good penmanship.

[Anime Dad]

They do, although I don't remember back that far But Mrs A.D. is a teacher, and she has exactly those things

[chiba]

Anime Dad wrote:

I think the reason they specify a certain order is because the kana turn out better and it's meant to be easier to remember. Check out http://www.tokyomokyo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=87 for kana & kanji practice sheets with the correct stroke order shown

Thanks for the link..

thtl wrote:

Even the English alphabets have a set of stroke orders

forgot!! good explanation!!
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[obentou]

A-Dad, thank you!
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[Sudeki]

I'm studying Japanese on my own also.
I have to admit that it's difficult learning by yourself. You dont have a teacher pushing you to do homework and things.

It's also difficult with the lack of Japanese people here (Where I live). I became fluent in Spanish in less than a year because there are many Mexicans here. In school, in the city, in my workplace... So yeah. If it was Japanese people, I would have been fluent a long time ago...

Anyway, I'll be in Japan June 4th for a month. So hopefully It will re enforce everything I've been studying on my own for the past 3 years...
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[Lifo]

I've been self studying on my own too for about 2 years now!
I understand Japanese , but I can't make up sentences easily, it's not difficult if you put your mind to it and if you know all the Hiragana and Katakana you'll have a very good start.

Although Iv'e been told, " Yeah right! you don't know Japanese, probably you're making up something!" and stuff like that, kinda discouraging but I didn't really care about what People said.

I attented Japanese classes for about a month too, but I quitted 'cause it was of an introductory course and was TOO easy, besides I had to keep up for my studies.

Anyway! Japanese learning is really fun and I can't wait to go to Japan someday to practice it with others there xD !

[nubs_cooper67]

i think, either a class or on your own. theres only so much you can really learn. if you wanna perfect a language the only real way to do it is to go to that country and spend a lot of time there with people speaking their native tongue.
of course you do need to learn a fair bit first before doing that. i feel you can do that either in a class or on your own. but after a year years of hard studying you need to surround yourself with the language and the only way to do that is to go there.
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[a-nesuto]

Lifo wrote:

Although Iv'e been told, " Yeah right! you don't know Japanese, probably you're making up something!" and stuff like that, kinda discouraging but I didn't really care about what People said.

ive experienced the same kind of thing. someone would see me laughing at a japanese variety show and they'd say "do you even know what their saying"
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[obentou]

a-nesuto wrote:

someone would see me laughing at a japanese variety show and they'd say "do you even know what their saying"

Like my mum.
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[nippon addict]

hi,, i'm new in this thread...

i started studying katakana and hiragana on my own but i find kanji very complicated... how many characters does it have?

by the way, i find it easy to learn how to speak nihongo...

hope i learn many things in this thread...
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[obentou]

nippon addict wrote:

hi,, i'm new in this thread... i started studying katakana and hiragana on my own but i find kanji very complicated... how many characters does it have? by the way, i find it easy to learn how to speak nihongo... hope i learn many things in this thread...

If I were you, memorize the hiragana and katakana by heart first.

Learning kanji is tough. I only know the really basic ones.
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[nippon addict]

obentou wrote:

If I were you, memorize the hiragana and katakana by heart first. Learning kanji is tough. I only know the really basic ones.

it really is tough... ok i will
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[�P���B��]

Around 50,000 kanji exist, but don't worry because you would "only" need to know about 1,000 basic kanji to be able to read 90 % of a Japanese newspaper.

But indeed, you should start memorizing hiragana and katakana first.

[suugakusha07]

hello! i have a question ..
how to read this one? i mean, what is the romaji form of this one
10���� i know in english it is 10 months, but how about in romaji?
and how about the other numbers? like this one, 1���� ~ 12����?
can you list them? i badly need it. thank you so much

[�P���B��]

10���� - juk kagetsu

1 month -- ik-kagetsu
2 months -- ni-kagetsu
3 months -- san-kagetsu
4 months -- yon-kagetsu
5 months -- go-kagetsu
6 months -- roku-kagetsu
7 months -- nana-kagetsu or shichi-kagetsu
8 months -- hachi-kagetsu or hak-kagetsu
9 months -- kyuu-kagetsu or ku-kagetsu
10 months -- juk-kagetsu or jik-kagetsu
11 months -- juuichi-kagetsu or juuik-kagetsu
12 months -- juuni-kagetsu

[nippon addict]

�P���B�� wrote:

10���� - juk kagetsu 1 month -- ik-kagetsu 2 months -- ni-kagetsu 3 months -- san-kagetsu 4 months -- yon-kagetsu 5 months -- go-kagetsu 6 months -- roku-kagetsu 7 months -- nana-kagetsu or shichi-kagetsu 8 months -- hachi-kagetsu or hak-kagetsu 9 months -- kyuu-kagetsu or ku-kagetsu 10 months -- juk-kagetsu or jik-kagetsu 11 months -- juuichi-kagetsu or juuik-kagetsu 12 months -- juuni-kagetsu

so that character means "getsu"? i thought it was "tsuki",, or are they the same?
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[suugakusha07]

�P���B�� wrote:

10���� - juk kagetsu 1 month -- ik-kagetsu 2 months -- ni-kagetsu 3 months -- san-kagetsu 4 months -- yon-kagetsu 5 months -- go-kagetsu 6 months -- roku-kagetsu 7 months -- nana-kagetsu or shichi-kagetsu 8 months -- hachi-kagetsu or hak-kagetsu 9 months -- kyuu-kagetsu or ku-kagetsu 10 months -- juk-kagetsu or jik-kagetsu 11 months -- juuichi-kagetsu or juuik-kagetsu 12 months -- juuni-kagetsu

thank you so much for the translation

nippon addict
it (��) can be read in different ways.

[Anime Dad]

suugakusha07 wrote:

it (��) can be read in different ways.

One of the joys of kanji