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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:47 am Post subject:
Mr.ChoyBoi wrote:
Japanese people are so friendly! I love Japan...
Yeah as gaijinmark inferred the customer service is impeccable...I mean hotel-labeled umbrellas provided for all their patrons...that's something I personally haven't heard of in the States.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:52 am Post subject:
Tu_triky wrote:
Yeah as gaijinmark inferred the customer service is impeccable...I mean hotel-labeled umbrellas provided for all their patrons...that's something I personally haven't heard of in the States.
I think it has to do with the Japanese value system. The customer is their most important person. Especially if they are an elderly person. Asian countries take good care of the elderly while here in the states, we throw them into nursing homes. its sad. _________________
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:00 am Post subject:
Mr.ChoyBoi wrote:
I think it has to do with the Japanese value system. The customer is their most important person. Especially if they are an elderly person. Asian countries take good care of the elderly while here in the states, we throw them into nursing homes. its sad.
Yeah, I feel you. Your points are valid. Speaking of customer service I'll share an old story that happened to me while there....while staying at the Park Hyatt Hotel in Shinjuku Tokyo I put in a call for dry-cleaning...when my stuff came back to the room there was a small hotel envelope included with my clothing. Inside that envelope was some cash wrapped in cellophane that I had accidentally left in my clothing which I gave to be dry cleaned....now that's customer service.
Yeah, I feel you. Your points are valid. Speaking of customer service I'll share an old story that happened to me while there....while staying at the Park Hyatt Hotel in Shinjuku Tokyo I put in a call for dry-cleaning...when my stuff came back to the room there was a small hotel envelope included with my clothing. Inside that envelope was some cash wrapped in cellophane that I had accidentally left in my clothing which I gave to be dry cleaned....now that's customer service.
This prolly goes hand-in-hand with the low crime rates in Japan as well. _________________
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:23 am Post subject:
Tu_triky wrote:
Well summer there is hot and humid like New York City. If you're used it perhaps it won't be such a big deal....but it's well known that traditionally the most temperate climates in Tokyo are during the Fall and Spring. I personally went in October before it started snowing...but then it did rain a day or two while I was there but it didn't really bother us that much.
I don't really mind rain (unless it rains for like a whole week non-stop hehe) So October does sound pretty good (has an average temp in the 70's)
Today in New York it was 96F here in my area with a humidity of 70%+ making it feel as reported by weather channel in the 100F and up.
I checked todays Tokyo weather and is no-where near that temperature. 79F is the highest for this whole week, with an average and median of 75F.
However, for August it does seem to go up quite a lot (seen many temps in the high 80's) Humidity seems to be the culprit here... Cause temperatures in the 80's are real good but with a humidity of 80%+ it can feel real sticky... _________________
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:58 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Agreed.
Awesome.
Professionalism. Courtesy. Honesty.
Completely the opposite of my workplace.
I don't think that the Japanese workplaces are all necessarily courteous and/or honest. Mr.ChoyBoi also mentioned that he finds the Japanese people to be so friendly. I think they are polite, respectful, courteous and appreciate their customers, but not necessarily friendly. There is a subtle difference.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject:
Enna wrote:
I don't think that the Japanese workplaces are all necessarily courteous and/or honest. Mr.ChoyBoi also mentioned that he finds the Japanese people to be so friendly. I think they are polite, respectful, courteous and appreciate their customers, but not necessarily friendly. There is a subtle difference.
I dont know about the Japanese people you've met, but the ones I have have talk to, talk to me like we've been friends forever. If thats not friendly I dont know what is. _________________
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject:
TaintedWisdom wrote:
I don't really mind rain (unless it rains for like a whole week non-stop hehe) So October does sound pretty good (has an average temp in the 70's)
Today in New York it was 96F here in my area with a humidity of 70%+ making it feel as reported by weather channel in the 100F and up.
I checked todays Tokyo weather and is no-where near that temperature. 79F is the highest for this whole week, with an average and median of 75F.
However, for August it does seem to go up quite a lot (seen many temps in the high 80's) Humidity seems to be the culprit here... Cause temperatures in the 80's are real good but with a humidity of 80%+ it can feel real sticky...
It can't be as bad as the Caribbean. From what I've heard, it's kind of the same thing we have over here. Unless you have A/C, when you grab a towel in the cabinet it's as damp as if you'd just dried yourself with it. If you're used to it, it won't be a problem.
I just don't want to know what it smells like in the subway in Tokyo. _________________
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:14 am Post subject:
Mr.ChoyBoi wrote:
I dont know about the Japanese people you've met, but the ones I have have talk to, talk to me like we've been friends forever. If thats not friendly I dont know what is.
Hi Mr.ChoyBoi,
I am not negating your experience with the Japanese people you have met. I know quite a few myself. Yes they polite and friendly. Since this thread is called "I'm Going To Japan" I don't know that is a good idea to stereotype all Japanese people as "so friendly." Some are and some aren't.
tabana wrote:
I just don't want to know what it smells like in the subway in Tokyo.
Tokyo subways and their stations are very clean.
TaintedWisdom wrote:
However, for August it does seem to go up quite a lot (seen many temps in the high 80's) Humidity seems to be the culprit here... Cause temperatures in the 80's are real good but with a humidity of 80%+ it can feel real sticky...
I once spent 2 weeks in Japan in the month of August. It is extremely hot and humid during that month. I hope you have fun TaintedWisdom.
Tu-man I loved your dry cleaning/hotel story. I had a similair experience myself in Japan. So did a friend of mine. Nice to know that such honesty exists somewhere in the world.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:26 am Post subject:
Enna wrote:
Tu-man I loved your dry cleaning/hotel story. I had a similair experience myself in Japan. So did a friend of mine. Nice to know that such honesty exists somewhere in the world.
Dear eloquent Lady of Lawng Island I have more tales to tell!
Another true story...
One evening after my friend and I ate at one of the most fabulous restaurants in our lives...Yoshihashi (a sukiyaki restaurant in Asakuska, http://metropolis.co.jp/tokyorestaurantsarchive299/268/contents.html) I asked the hostess in Japanese what the best route was to get to the nearest subway station....this woman, dressed in kimono, literally walked us for about 10 minutes, from the restaurant to the nearest train station, bowed and left us....
my friend and I were so utterly stunned at the level of service our jaws dropped and, at least I, felt embarassed at the unparelleled customer service which was just rendered to us!
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:31 am Post subject:
Enna wrote:
Tokyo subways and their stations are very clean.
I'm sure they are. I was thinking more in the armpit area. The subways are overcrowded and with hot and humid temps, that can't be good. _________________
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject:
Well it seems I won't be going to Japan.
While this may sound like bad news, maybe is better and not bad at all.
Many little factors started adding up and it seemed like it wasn't going to work out as nice as I wanted. Some of these factors include but are not limited to, having to spend $2300 for my lasik surgery last month but I was still good when it came to financial backing. On top of this then my cousins drop by 2 days ago from Puerto Rico and want to stay here for 2 weeks with my family which always equal to a crap load of money to be wasted hehe. Furthermore, my niece just dropped my camera today when I shopping for Japanese chocolates for a few people in this forum (it wasn't amazing just 7.1MP, but it was the only one I had , but how can you scream/get mad at a kid....) If things weren't bad already (as you can tell now money is becoming a factors as I would have to buy a crap load of things) then the thing with the weather being horrible... Then I must visit family for a week and a half on December... so yeah, you can see the issue...
All in all, too many things added up and it's just not worth pushing it and maxing out my credit cards when I might not even enjoy it (hate to think of the huge debt I would have if I was to push it). So I will just really prepare myself well for MAY.
Do you guys know how is the weather on May (around the 20 and on)?
I can be fully prepared and have things things ready for May (not to mention I will have way more money stashed by that time, and since I start Japanese classes I will also have a slight positive there)
Edit: It appears the weather on May is pretty dam good, is a weather where all you have to wear is long sleeves and maybe a jacket at most correct? Let me know, cause that sounds like an ideal weather to travel. _________________
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Are you kidding? The Tokyo subways are impeccably clean!
Hey Tu_triky, how are you?
greetings from Kyoto, Japan.
The first day in Kyoto, and i visited Nara Park and a nearby shrine, tmrw is more touring in central Kyoto.
I have to say it is a bit slower paced here in Kyoto, just over 2 hours from Tokyo. I have a deep appreciation for the culture, the customer service, the atmosphere, the food, and the beautiful Japanese women.
Kyoto is a must-see for those wondering and inquiring about the richness of Japan. I am not sure if many Geisha, Maiko will be roaming about in the Gion streets, as it is rainy season and quite humid outside.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject:
qilver wrote:
Hey Tu_triky, how are you?
doing okay. glad to see you are enjoying your trip immensely. i'm sure it's great to be back in Japan experiencing all the sights, smells, sounds, etc.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject:
tabana wrote:
I'm sure they are. I was thinking more in the armpit area. The subways are overcrowded and with hot and humid temps, that can't be good.
They sell and regularly use deodorant in Japan. It ain't Europe.
@Tu-Man: I know exactly what you mean. The Japanese can be so gracious in such simple gestures as a walk to a subway station.
@TaintedWisdom: Sorry to hear about your recent change in plans for your trip to Japan, but the month of May should be so much nicer to be there.
@qilver: Glad to hear you and your family are having such a lovely time in Japan. Next time I go I would love to visit Kyoto. Thanks for your comments.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:56 pm Post subject:
Enna wrote:
It ain't Europe.
haha...funny.
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@Tu-Man: I know exactly what you mean. The Japanese can be so gracious in such simple gestures as a walk to a subway station.
yeah for sure. another true story...one time my friend and i were heading to the subway and it was crowded with lots of ppl flowing in and out of the train station....so when i got to the turnstile i happened to arrive their at the same time as this japanese man. so i motioned for him to go ahead first and he did the same to me and i repeated for him to please go first, and he did the same...this went back and forth for at least 10 seconds and he wouldn't go until he allowed me to go first....so i finally gave up bowed slightly and went ahead.
that would never happen here.....i was shocked how polite this guy was...
and i was a total stranger and a foreigner to boot!
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, but how can you scream/get mad at a kid....) If things weren't bad already (as you can tell now money is becoming a factors as I would have to buy a crap load of things) then the thing with the weather being horrible... Then I must visit family for a week and a half on December... so yeah, you can see the issue...
so true though! After six month in Japan, everytime taking the metro here in Brussels, I can smell the difference and I wish I was back in Nagoya. 
