Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 1351 Location: Davis, CA
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject:
Well, just came back from visiting my family for Spring Break. I had put the Nodame Special on DVD and I think my family thinks I'm crazy for watching something as wacky as Nodame Cantabile
I didn't think trying to spread the Nodame gospel would be so hard.
Well, just came back from visiting my family for Spring Break. I had put the Nodame Special on DVD and I think my family thinks I'm crazy for watching something as wacky as Nodame Cantabile
I didn't think trying to spread the Nodame gospel would be so hard.
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Newbury Park, CA Country:
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject:
deseipher wrote:
Well, just came back from visiting my family for Spring Break. I had put the Nodame Special on DVD and I think my family thinks I'm crazy for watching something as wacky as Nodame Cantabile
I didn't think trying to spread the Nodame gospel would be so hard.
I'll tell you, some parts of it look really silly from the outside. I felt kinda stupid watching the intro of the first episode the first time, when he's in Vienna. It's just not very good.. but it definitely rewards those with patience to stick through the first episode.
I would sell the first episode as a package.
I've now got like 6 people watching it _________________
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I'll tell you, some parts of it look really silly from the outside. I felt kinda stupid watching the intro of the first episode the first time, when he's in Vienna. It's just not very good..
I think it was meant to be somewhat campy... Particularly the hard landing of that "plane."
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
I think it was meant to be somewhat campy... Particularly the hard landing of that "plane."
Oh, totally.. and the series plays up on the campy-ness later.. but to start out with it's a little bit much to swallow I'm afraid. I think the little sparks are hilarious. And really.. could Chiaki's scared-shitless expression be any sillier ;-) _________________
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Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 1351 Location: Davis, CA
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject:
phlargo wrote:
I'll tell you, some parts of it look really silly from the outside. I felt kinda stupid watching the intro of the first episode the first time, when he's in Vienna. It's just not very good.. but it definitely rewards those with patience to stick through the first episode.
I would sell the first episode as a package.
I've now got like 6 people watching it
I have to agree with you about the intro of the first episode; I found myself turned off by it. The acting just wasn't that good or convincing, though I'm not sure what the intended effect was to begin with. To be quite honest, I stopped after the first episode for a while and continued with the anime version. It wasn't until the fansub group stopped working on Nodame, that I decided to watch the rest of the live-action on Crunchyroll. The second episode was nice, but it wasn't until the fourth episode with Nodame's attempts to kiss Chiaki, the kotatsu wackiness and the S-Oke performance that I really got into the live-action version. I just had to realize that it was a manga adaption and therefore there was going to be some wackiness involved. Well, cute, adorable wackiness on Juri-chan's part.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject:
deseipher wrote:
I have to agree with you about the intro of the first episode; I found myself turned off by it. The acting just wasn't that good or convincing, though I'm not sure what the intended effect was to begin with. To be quite honest, I stopped after the first episode for a while and continued with the anime version. It wasn't until the fansub group stopped working on Nodame, that I decided to watch the rest of the live-action on Crunchyroll. The second episode was nice, but it wasn't until the fourth episode with Nodame's attempts to kiss Chiaki, the kotatsu wackiness and the S-Oke performance that I really got into the live-action version. I just had to realize that it was a manga adaption and therefore there was going to be some wackiness involved. Well, cute, adorable wackiness on Juri-chan's part.
See.. I disagree about the first episode though - there are like 5 brilliant directing moments in the first episode alone. You just have to get past some rough spots. Actually, a couple of my favorite scenes are in the first episode... I'm kind of a weird viewer though.. I've got a whole cadre of friends who are film critics, so I look for very different things than many do in visual media.
Having watched the anime first, I felt that the drama focused too much on their relationship (as much as I loved it!) and failed to capture some of the subtlety of the musical experience the anime went into a little deeper. _________________
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by a system of fluid-filled bladders"
I have to agree with you about the intro of the first episode; I found myself turned off by it.
Wow.
Glad you stuck with it.
I didn't know what was going on in episode one until the flies flew out of that can and I saw Juri-chan's neguse... Right then, I knew this show was gonna be wacky.
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 1351 Location: Davis, CA
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject:
phlargo wrote:
See.. I disagree about the first episode though - there are like 5 brilliant directing moments in the first episode alone. You just have to get past some rough spots. Actually, a couple of my favorite scenes are in the first episode... I'm kind of a weird viewer though.. I've got a whole cadre of friends who are film critics, so I look for very different things than many do in visual media.
Having watched the anime first, I felt that the drama focused too much on their relationship (as much as I loved it!) and failed to capture some of the subtlety of the musical experience the anime went into a little deeper.
There were a few moments I liked during the first episode, but I think it was just hard to get over the intro for me. As far as those brilliant directing moments go, could you share those moments? Perhaps it will give me a new outlook on the first episode. I'm no film buff really, not quite the discerning viewer, so perhaps there are things I completely missed.
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Newbury Park, CA Country:
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject:
deseipher wrote:
There were a few moments I liked during the first episode, but I think it was just hard to get over the intro for me. As far as those brilliant directing moments go, could you share those moments? Perhaps it will give me a new outlook on the first episode. I'm no film buff really, not quite the discerning viewer, so perhaps there are things I completely missed.
I'm not gonna draft an analytical essay on the direction in the first episode, but here are a few impressions that it gives (granted, I've only seen the first epside twice now)
The look on Nodame's face when she confronts Chiaki with his use of her nickname. I don't remember that reaction in the anime and I thought it was so cool. On top of satisfaction, it touches on anger and relief. Some of my favorite direction, really.
Well.. I would say that there are some brilliant lighting and focal changes between the Nodame and Chiaki while they're working together on the Mozart piece.
There's a shot of Nodame feeling rejected by Chiaki's lack of willingness to work with. The sequence that follows forces the viewer to experience Chiaki's relief and surprise.
The director really makes Chiaki to be a much more complicated character, beyond the slapstick. Also, however, some of the slapstick moments are done very well and convey what I will call "anime impressions".
Anime is a fantastic medium for story telling for many reasons, but the one I'm talking about here is the use of color and patterns to describe emotional responses that can't be captured in speech or facial expressions - things we feel on the inside but never can convey. Sure, I think some of them are way overblown (the matrix like time capture of Chiaki slapping Nodame with the score is really just silly and terrible directing, even if extremely memorable). It rips you out of the scene and then throws you back in. It's intentional, but it's weak, in my mind. _________________
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by a system of fluid-filled bladders"
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 1351 Location: Davis, CA
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject:
phlargo wrote:
I'm not gonna draft an analytical essay on the direction in the first episode, but here are a few impressions that it gives (granted, I've only seen the first epside twice now)
The look on Nodame's face when she confronts Chiaki with his use of her nickname. I don't remember that reaction in the anime and I thought it was so cool. On top of satisfaction, it touches on anger and relief. Some of my favorite direction, really.
Well.. I would say that there are some brilliant lighting and focal changes between the Nodame and Chiaki while they're working together on the Mozart piece.
There's a shot of Nodame feeling rejected by Chiaki's lack of willingness to work with. The sequence that follows forces the viewer to experience Chiaki's relief and surprise.
The director really makes Chiaki to be a much more complicated character, beyond the slapstick. Also, however, some of the slapstick moments are done very well and convey what I will call "anime impressions".
Anime is a fantastic medium for story telling for many reasons, but the one I'm talking about here is the use of color and patterns to describe emotional responses that can't be captured in speech or facial expressions - things we feel on the inside but never can convey. Sure, I think some of them are way overblown (the matrix like time capture of Chiaki slapping Nodame with the score is really just silly and terrible directing, even if extremely memorable). It rips you out of the scene and then throws you back in. It's intentional, but it's weak, in my mind.
Thanks for sharing those moments. I think I'll go back and watch the first episodes with what you've posted in mind. A different perspective is nice to have, and perhaps I'll see more than before and hopefully enjoy the first episode more.
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:27 am Post subject:
phlargo wrote:
I'm not gonna draft an analytical essay on the direction in the first episode, but here are a few impressions that it gives (granted, I've only seen the first epside twice now)
The look on Nodame's face when she confronts Chiaki with his use of her nickname. I don't remember that reaction in the anime and I thought it was so cool. On top of satisfaction, it touches on anger and relief. Some of my favorite direction, really.
Well.. I would say that there are some brilliant lighting and focal changes between the Nodame and Chiaki while they're working together on the Mozart piece.
There's a shot of Nodame feeling rejected by Chiaki's lack of willingness to work with. The sequence that follows forces the viewer to experience Chiaki's relief and surprise.
The director really makes Chiaki to be a much more complicated character, beyond the slapstick. Also, however, some of the slapstick moments are done very well and convey what I will call "anime impressions".
Anime is a fantastic medium for story telling for many reasons, but the one I'm talking about here is the use of color and patterns to describe emotional responses that can't be captured in speech or facial expressions - things we feel on the inside but never can convey. Sure, I think some of them are way overblown (the matrix like time capture of Chiaki slapping Nodame with the score is really just silly and terrible directing, even if extremely memorable). It rips you out of the scene and then throws you back in. It's intentional, but it's weak, in my mind.
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 99 Location: lala land in Tamaki's heart Country:
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:32 am Post subject:
meoinkie2 wrote:
went shopping just now
and saw some similar dresses to Nodame's wardobe...
wanted to buy....
BUT
the cutting were all so small
im so motivated to go on a diet!
Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Newbury Park, CA Country:
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:07 am Post subject:
junie1028 wrote:
u guys are amazing
im nvr a detailed person
Sadly, this is my world. I can't look at anything without disecting it. I'm kinda the ultimate critic. Things I cook which I really enjoy eating I pick apart to find improvements. My favorite movies get torn apart with rigid criticism. It's not a life of comfort, but ultimately it's extremely satisfying. _________________
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by a system of fluid-filled bladders"
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:18 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Stretching out for the big kick.
What an uncommon picture.. who captures this stuff? The Japanese are really serious about their actors. Hehe.. no safe moments from the cameras! _________________
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