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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

shin2 wrote:
It seems like there have been as many filmed and TV versions of the Loyal 47 Ronin story as there are grains in a sand hourglass.

Isn't the definitive version the one by Mizoguchi Kenji?
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Watched Ep 9 of Koi ni Ochitara today.. just when I was about to get irritated at the series it recoved in a way I found satisfying... Might try and hit up Ep. 10 tonight before sleep.. then tomorrow is the finale!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Shin2/BMWRacer,
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm always up for a good samurai movie so I'll look for them. I like seeing different variations of certain stories, but that all depends on the story being good.

I just finished Ooku Season 3 and can mildly recommend it. It's the same story as Atsu-hime, but better overall. The problem with the Atsu-hime story is that she only has one real significant event in her life-the peaceful handover of Edo Castle to the Satcho forces, and that was more Katsu Kaishu's doing than hers. Ooku centers around her life in the Ooku(duh), the problems she faces there, the political wranglings in the Ooku, and the change of her beliefs. It's kept to only eleven episodes and a special which was a good idea because there just isn't enough story, even with embellishment, to make it longer like Atsu-hime which each episode is 95% filler. If you want to see a version of the story made for an adult audience, this is it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm halfway through Last Christmas. Such a great show. Yada Akiko is so adorable, she can't help but draw you into her her troubles. Kind of reminds me a little of the Korean drama My Sassy Girl (haven't seen the JDo remake yet). The office dramas and triangles that go on in this show so much remind me of where I work. One more episode before bed!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Kimi ga oshietekureta koto episode 1-2

I really like it. Mayuko and Shinichi's conversations, Mayuko singing... So peaceful and beautiful. So glad that I come upon this after a string of disappointments.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Isn't the definitive version the one by Mizoguchi Kenji?


Imo I don't think there is a definitive version.

Only a small fraction of the films and TV series based on the Chushingura story have been made readily available to the West, and I think some of these Western movie critics saw Mizoguchi's name and promptly declared his version to be the definitive one.

There's no way they could have seen (unless they were fluent in Japanese) enough versions to make such a declaration.

I've also seen the "definitive" tag applied to Inagaki's 1962 version, but it, along with Mizoguchi's version, are probably the only two Chushingura films that were for the longest time readily available with English subtitles.

In recent years, more subtitled versions, going all the way back to ones made in the 1950's, have become available through internet sites, although none of these have been officially marketed for U.S. distribution.

I've seen perhaps half-a-dozen versions (both film and TV), and I can say there were at least a couple--including the Taiga series Genroku Ryoran-- that I enjoyed more than Mizoguchi's and Inagaki's versions.

But then I'm not a professional movie critic, so what the hell do I know.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

shin2 wrote:
But then I'm not a professional movie critic, so what the hell do I know.

Ehh, don't discount yourself: professional movies critics aren't the end-all-be-all of film criticism...

I mean, those two guys on Ebert and Roeper liked Speed Racer... Beaten hehe
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Finished Slow Dance and watching "Seija no koushin" now ... ahh~ maybe I've an overdose (watching one series a day is insane T__T..) XD
i somehow can't enjoy it anymore (maybe because I nearly fall down the chair because I'm so tired? ?XD)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Alrighty, I'm NOW on the last episode of Haken no Hinkaku. I thought I was on epi 10 before, but apparently it was only epi 8. Beaten
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The Internet Movie DataBase lists 20 versions of Chuushingura going back to the first silent version made in 1907.

And those are just the ones listed as "Chuushingura."

Versions like Ken Takakura's 1994 "Shijushichinin no shikaku" aren't even on that list.

My favorite is the one made in 1941... but then that's probably because that's the first one I saw.

Oddly enough, Takakura's is probably my least favorite.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Finished Koi ni Ochitara tonight! What a treat.. the last ep. was really sappy.. but the rest of it was great. I may have a new favorite. I'll definitely post a glowing review tomorrow Smile

Now.. what's next, there's the real question...

I was thinking something with my favorite little Shibasaki Kou (I miss Sae...) or Tsumabuki Satoshi.

So.. is it Lunch No Jouu, Good Luck (wow.. all star cast in this one eh?), or Galileo?

Also got Proposal Daisakusen, Long Vacation, and Sekei Bijin waiting in the wings
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

phlargo wrote:
Finished Koi ni Ochitara tonight! What a treat.. the last ep. was really sappy.. but the rest of it was great. I may have a new favorite. I'll definitely post a glowing review tomorrow Smile

Now.. what's next, there's the real question...

I was thinking something with my favorite little Shibasaki Kou (I miss Sae...) or Tsumabuki Satoshi.

So.. is it Lunch No Jouu, Good Luck (wow.. all star cast in this one eh?), or Galileo?

Also got Proposal Daisakusen, Long Vacation, and Sekei Bijin waiting in the wings


If you want maximum Kou... Galileo...but she ain't Sae!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

runpup wrote:


If you want maximum Kou... Galileo...but she ain't Sae!


Yeah, I kinda figured. It's a hard persona to duplicate. I don't know.. I do think it's time for a good strong female lead again.. Koi no Ochitara was rather male-centered... probably good to get something a little more feminine in.
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...on topic: Finished Kurosagi last night. Kinda lackluster, but I suppose they do better in the movie (watching that next). Also have Medaka spooled up and ready to go for my next 'in-between' series as the subs for each show keep coming out this season!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Geezer wrote:
The Internet Movie DataBase lists 20 versions of Chuushingura going back to the first silent version made in 1907.

And those are just the ones listed as "Chuushingura."

Versions like Ken Takakura's 1994 "Shijushichinin no shikaku" aren't even on that list.


Plus there's been a number of TV versions as well.

Geezer wrote:
My favorite is the one made in 1941... but then that's probably because that's the first one I saw.


The Mizoguchi version. I thought it was good, but I like other versions more.

Geezer wrote:
Oddly enough, Takakura's is probably my least favorite.


That one was directed by Kon Ichikawa. Immensely disappointing.

I bought the 1959 Toei version last week; waiting to receive it and eager to see how good (or bad) this one is.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

phlargo wrote:
So.. is it Lunch No Jouu, Good Luck (wow.. all star cast in this one eh?), or Galileo?

My vote's for Galileo... Victory! Peace!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

So I'm on episode 4 of Shomuni and I've FINALLY gotten a little interested in it. I don't know why, but I was sorta bored with the first few episodes. The first episode didn't hook me at all, tho I can see clearly why some of the guys enjoyed this drama. Wink (jokes)

But I'm enjoying it now. Something about the third epi clicked with me. I can't say I'm thoroughly into it, but at least now I can see some promise.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Episode 9 of Last Friends if the download completes soon.

Thing is, will I be able to sit through it...? Sweat Puppy Dog Eyes Sweat Puppy Dog Eyes
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bmwracer wrote:
Episode 9 of Last Friends if the download completes soon.

Thing is, will I be able to sit through it...? Sweat Puppy Dog Eyes Sweat Puppy Dog Eyes


Awwwww really? Sweat
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Awwwww really? Sweat

From the previews and whatnot, it looks to be really traumatic. Sweat
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