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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:06 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Oko was basically a golddigger: She dumped Matahachi for Toji, because he was in line to take over the Yoshioka school, if Seijuro lost to Musashi. But the school had financial problems from Seijuro's excessive partying, and it's dyeing business collapsed after Densichiro's defeat at the hands of Musashi. After the stunning defeat at Ichijoji, Toji and Oko ran off and became the leaders of a pack of thieves...
Oh, she was involved with Matahachi too? No wonder they seemed to have that "chemistry" when exchanging dialouge and stuff. Heh, and then her daughter ended up with Matahachi. _________________
Oh, she was involved with Matahachi too? No wonder they seemed to have that "chemistry" when exchanging dialouge and stuff. Heh, and then her daughter ended up with Matahachi.
Yep. Musashi and Matahachi accidentally met up with Oko and Akemi after the Battle of Sekigahara... Oko and Akemi were looting the bodies of the dead soldiers and selling their items... Eech.
Oko threw herself at Musashi, but he wouldn't have anything to do with her, so she hooked up with Matahachi instead. Then the three of them abandoned Musashi, and headed for Kyoto...
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:20 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Yep. Musashi and Matahachi accidentally met up with Oko and Akemi after the Battle of Sekigahara... Oko and Akemi were looting the bodies of the dead soldiers and selling their items... Eech.
Oko threw herself at Musashi, but he wouldn't have anything to do with her, so she hooked up with Matahachi instead. Then the three of them abandoned Musashi, and headed for Kyoto...
So how did Akemi hook up with Matahachi if he was involved with Okoh? _________________
So how did Akemi hook up with Matahachi if he was involved with Okoh?
As I said, Oko was a golddigger: she dumped him for Toji. And Matahachi was there to console Akemi after Yoshioka Seijuro raped her. From that point on, Akemi was essentially in love with Matahachi.
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:40 pm Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
As I said, Oko was a golddigger: she dumped him for Toji. And Matahachi was there to console Akemi after Yoshioka Seijuro raped her. From that point on, Akemi was essentially in love with Matahachi.
I knew I should've watched it from the beginning. I had no idea that Yoshioka raped her. Don't touch my Rina! _________________
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:51 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Oh, one other thing: In Yoshikawa Eiji's book, Oko is killed, but Matahachi isn't. And Matahachi and a pregnant Akemi go off together.
Yikes! I GOTTA read this book. Looks like the TV drama took SOME liberties (I mean, this sounds worse than Lecter on the plane at the end of cinematized Hannibal [that part, by the way, happens in the MIDDLE of the novel; and this cinematic liberty changes the story 180']).
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:10 am Post subject:
The Man wrote:
Yikes! I GOTTA read this book. Looks like the TV drama took SOME liberties (I mean, this sounds worse than Lecter on the plane at the end of cinematized Hannibal [that part, by the way, happens in the MIDDLE of the novel; and this cinematic liberty changes the story 180']).
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:27 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Uh, yeahhhhhhh.... All TV/film adaptations take liberties one way of another...
Well, there are some closer to the source material than others, i.e. The Godfather and The Maltese Falcon are two great examples . . . from pop culture, at least.
Some of Kenneth Branagh's cinematic-based Shakespearean efforts go word-for-word from The Bard's works, you know. And THAT's much ado about something.
Last edited by The Man on Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:30 am; edited 2 times in total
Well, there are some closer to the source material than others, i.e. The Godfather and The Maltese Falcon are two great examples . . . from pop culture, at least.
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I had no idea that Yoshioka raped her. 
Don't touch my Rina! 
