Anime - General Discussion Thread

Started by windrider · 26 Jun 2003 · 6,061 replies

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7 Sep 2004, 07:54 #1221
arnel98 wrote:The US official walls have their skin painted black so as to make them look conservative instead of the bare skin/red paint combo.


painted black??? oh man, I really don't care for American neo-puritanism ...
11 Sep 2004, 12:44 #1222
Anyone play Final Fantasy 11? I played it for a while but got too expensive. ($12.95 a month) Plus to buy the game itself was $99.99!!! I am so excited about FF12. Anyone Else?
12 Sep 2004, 09:35 #1223
I like Fushigi Yugi. That one is great. Also Inu Yasha and YuYu Hakasho are good
12 Sep 2004, 09:38 #1224
i watch too many anime, and has never seen any drama. i would love to get a drama once i save up my money
12 Sep 2004, 09:40 #1225
I heard they will make a Final Fantasy VII movie. Anyone else heard that?
The movie looks good
13 Sep 2004, 05:56 #1226
Wired for cynicism
Mamoru Oshii's sequel to the anime cult favorite "Ghost in the Shell" offers an even bleaker vision of the human race.
By Scarlet Cheng
Special to The Times

Sep 12 2004


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The future is a bleak and lonely place, and the present's not much better.

That's the unhappy conclusion Mamoru Oshii, celebrated anime director and scriptwriter, has come to after 53 years of life. And yes, it's reflected in his latest film, "Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence," which had the distinction in May of being one of the few animation features ever to compete at the Cannes Film Festival.

"The world is going to be unhappy, because people are rotten," says Oshii, a small smile on his impish face, as if daring anyone to challenge him. "I have no hopes for anyone in this world." Fortunately, dystopian futures seem to make for memorable sci-fi.

Nine years ago the Japanese filmmaker wrote and directed "Ghost in the Shell," which offered astonishing visuals and lots of careening action. It was also adult through and through, what with the heroine ripping off her clothes two minutes into the movie — Major Kusanagi suggests that this allows her "thermoptic camouflage" to work — and lots of ponderous musings on what it means to be human, especially when much of you is cyborg, which apparently is where the race is headed. Through all this, one's "ghost," or spirit, might remain.

The film became a cult hit in Europe and the United States and inspired other filmmakers, including "The Matrix's" Wachowski brothers and Quentin Tarantino, who asked Oshii's studio, Production I.G, to do the animated clip in "Kill Bill Vol. 1."

While "Ghost 2" also explores the human question, it offers a different set of answers — and perhaps a darker vision of the human race.

Special investigator Batou is looking into a series of grisly murders: Gynoids, female androids, have been killing their owners, some high up in government. When Batou tracks down his first suspect, she attempts to kill herself, with the final words "help me" on her plaintive lips. (He blows her away.) In this future, there is still crime, cruelty and lust, and man's inhumanity to man has become inhumanity to robot.

The film offers technical upgrades, of course. While characters are still two-dimensional drawings, shading is now gradated, thanks to the computer. Some backgrounds and objects are computer-generated, three-dimensional illustrations, including a stunning opening sequence of the shining spires of the city of the future, reminiscent of "Blade Runner."

But Oshii believes in preserving hand illustration. "The animator's skills can't be lost; it's a huge treasure," he says. "In general, Japanese people like to see 2-D art as opposed to 3-D art. That's why manga in Japan is so huge — people feel nostalgic when they see it."


A RELUCTANT REVISITATION

On a recent visit to Los Angeles, the director is sitting in a DreamWorks conference room. A small man with thinning hair and a scraggly beard, he's wearing a light jacket over a T-shirt decorated with a soulful-eyed basset hound. Yes, that's right, he says, he owns a basset hound, Gabriel. She's the prototype for Batou's pet and warmest relationship.

The director hadn't wanted to revisit his most famous work, but the president of Production I.G, Mitsuhisa Ishikawa, coerced him into it. "Oshii-san does his best work under pressure," Ishikawa says. "And I was interested in getting our studio known internationally, and I knew another anime by Oshii would do so."

Oshii stumbled into the world of anime when, at age 26, he decided he wanted to work in films. "One day I saw a poster recruiting people for an animation studio," he recalls. He rose through the ranks, though he's highly unusual in the world of anime — he didn't take studio art and, he says, "I can't draw, I don't draw."

However, he's specific about how he wants his artists to draw and animate the figures and scenes. "Ghost" was based on a manga by Shirow Masamune, but when it came to making the movie, Oshii insisted that Kusanagi's eyes be made smaller, as were her breasts. "In the original she was like this" (he makes a gesture with two hands showing Jayne Mansfield proportions), "and personally I don't like that."

In "Ghost 2," Batou's dog is rendered in such loving detail that the question comes up whether Gabriel was brought to the office to model. "Oh, no, I felt sorry making my dog take a trip to the studio," Oshii says quickly. "So I insisted the artists come to my house and study him."

Except for his dog, Batou is a pretty solitary character in the cold, lonely future. "That's how I see people," Oshii says. "People in general are very isolated. When I'm with people I feel lonelier than when I'm all by myself. I feel very happy and content when I'm with my dog. I don't make these films to give hope to people. I want to show them reality."

Then he catches himself. After all, he can't be so negative. "Well, I do give them a certain hope. In the film I'm giving them a suggestion. Rather than hanging on to being a human, maybe it would be better for people to become dolls."
13 Sep 2004, 06:57 #1227
Another Ghost in the Shell?? This should be good.... I cant wait till this comes out... :applaud:
13 Sep 2004, 06:59 #1228
Mr.ChoyBoi wrote:Another Ghost in the Shell?? This should be good.... I cant wait till this comes out... :applaud:

I hear it's coming out on Region 2 DVD... But no English subs.

The English speaking world is shafted again. :(
13 Sep 2004, 07:47 #1229
It seems the english language is left out a lot.... Yesterday I was watching "Proof of the Man" on KSCI and the entire series is without English subs, BUT when Yukata talks in English... What do you know? There are Japanese subs to translate what he is saying.... :shakehead: :angry:
13 Sep 2004, 10:43 #1230
Mr.ChoyBoi wrote:It seems the english language is left out a lot.... Yesterday I was watching "Proof of the Man" on KSCI and the entire series is without English subs, BUT when Yukata talks in English... What do you know? There are Japanese subs to translate what he is saying.... :shakehead: :angry:

Double standard. :mad:
13 Sep 2004, 11:13 #1231
Azumanga Daioh Fan wrote:I heard they will make a Final Fantasy VII movie. Anyone else heard that?
The movie looks good


that's what i'm talking abt. my previous post FF7 Advent Children just had a copy of it's trailer and it's wayyyyy cool :mrgreen:
13 Sep 2004, 19:00 #1232
bmwracer wrote:
I hear it's coming out on Region 2 DVD... But no English subs.

The English speaking world is shafted again. :(


quite natural that it's released in region 2 because japan has region 2 too :P

There were quite a few different dvd special editions of this movie in japan, with dolls and stuff.. ^^
14 Sep 2004, 06:09 #1233
mine is ff7,8 and 9 :woot:
14 Sep 2004, 06:43 #1234
i am the same like you :mrgreen: i seen only gto as drama lol
14 Sep 2004, 14:32 #1235
Well eventually it will be released with english subs.... its just a matter of when....
15 Sep 2004, 02:37 #1237
bmwracer wrote:
I hear it's coming out on Region 2 DVD... But no English subs.

The English speaking world is shafted again. :(


Well I think you are lucky to speak english.... because french world doesn't seem to exist :sweat:

It's strange because where something from Japan arrives in France, it always has a good success..
15 Sep 2004, 03:23 #1238
I think THE anime a-comin' up -- at least visually speaking (and isn't that what anime's all about?) -- is Katsuhiro Otomo's (yeah, THAT Akira's Katsuhiro Otomo) Steamboy.
15 Sep 2004, 05:44 #1239
Xavio wrote:Well I think you are lucky to speak english.... because french world doesn't seem to exist :sweat:

You're right, Xavio. I guess us Americans are sorta selfish, neh?

Gomen nasai.
15 Sep 2004, 07:03 #1240
i saw kizuna
its pretty good,............
if you dont mind the fact that the characters live in an all male, all gay town. :sweat:

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