phlargo wrote:we can retrain our tongues pretty easily
There's a joke somewhere in that remark. :hehe:
There's a joke somewhere in that remark. :hehe:
Health Advice/Discussion
Started by Daichi Kai · 19 Sep 2007 · 1,074 replies
General Discussion
There's a joke somewhere in that remark. :hehe:
bmwracer wrote:
The problem is with most people they go overboard, thus the need for sugar and salt substitutes. :sweat:
Fug it...just use real Parmasean Cheese....or Bacon. :hehe:
bmwracer wrote:
The problem is with most people they go overboard, thus the need for sugar and salt substitutes. :sweat:
Hell when the average 12 ounce can of soda has 10 to 12 teaspoons of sugar and everything we eat is salted to death until the point it will brine your innards, it's no wonder.
Tu_triky wrote:everything we eat is salted to death until the point it will brine your innards
It keeps people moist and juicy. :mrgreen:
bmwracer wrote:
It keeps people moist and juicy. :mrgreen:
:hehe:
That is if you like human tripe.
mmmm... salted salami.... :drooling:
krim wrote:mmmm... salted salami.... :drooling:
You got that great tasting salami on the brain, if you had any left we'd have to hit you on the head to bring you back to reality. ;)
Send me a slice. :P
Tu_triky wrote:
You got that great tasting salami on the brain, if you had any left we'd have to hit you on the head to bring you back to reality. ;)
Send me a slice. :P
i just tried to send you some, but they never made it into the envelope... very odd.. black hole there is...
krim wrote:
i just tried to send you some, but they never made it into the envelope... very odd.. black hole there is...
:hehe:
Better my health but better for your tastebuds.
Red Bull drink lifts stroke risk: Australian study
REUTERS
Thu Aug 14, 2008
By Rob Taylor
CANBERRA (Reuters) - Just one can of the popular stimulant energy drink Red Bull can increase the risk of heart attack or stroke, even in young people, Australian medical researchers said on Friday.
The caffeine-loaded beverage, popular with university students and adrenaline sport fans to give them "wings", caused the blood to become sticky, a pre-cursor to cardiovascular problems such as stroke.
"One hour after they drank Red Bull, (their blood systems) were no longer normal. They were abnormal like we would expect in a patient with cardiovascular disease," Scott Willoughby, lead researcher from the Cardiovascular Research Centre at the Royal Adelaide Hospital, told the Australian newspaper.
Red Bull Australia spokeswoman Linda Rychter said the report would be assessed by the company's head office in Austria.
"The study does not show effects which would go beyond that of drinking a cup of coffee. Therefore, the reported results were to be expected and lie within the normal physiological range," Rychter told Reuters.
Willoughby and his team tested the cardiovascular systems of 30 young adults one hour before and one hour after consuming one 250ml can of sugar-free Red Bull.
The results showed "normal people develop symptoms normally associated with cardiovascular disease" after consuming the drink, created in the 1980s by Austrian entrepreneur Dietrich Mateschitz based on a similar Thai energy drink.
Red Bull is banned in Norway, Uruguay and Denmark because of health risks listed on its cans, but the company last year sold 3.5 billion cans in 143 countries. One can contains 80 mg of caffeine, around the same as a normal cup of brewed coffee.
The Austria-based company, whose marketing says "Red Bull gives you wings", sponsors Formula 1 race cars and extreme sport events around the world, but warns consumers not to drink more than two cans a day.
Rychter said Red Bull could only have such global sales because health authorities across the world had concluded the drink was safe to consume.
But Willoughby said Red Bull could be deadly when combined with stress or high blood pressure, impairing proper blood vessel function and possibly lifting the risk of blood clotting.
"If you have any predisposition to cardiovascular disease, I'd think twice about drinking it," he said.
(Editing by David Fogarty)
REUTERS
Thu Aug 14, 2008
By Rob Taylor
CANBERRA (Reuters) - Just one can of the popular stimulant energy drink Red Bull can increase the risk of heart attack or stroke, even in young people, Australian medical researchers said on Friday.
The caffeine-loaded beverage, popular with university students and adrenaline sport fans to give them "wings", caused the blood to become sticky, a pre-cursor to cardiovascular problems such as stroke.
"One hour after they drank Red Bull, (their blood systems) were no longer normal. They were abnormal like we would expect in a patient with cardiovascular disease," Scott Willoughby, lead researcher from the Cardiovascular Research Centre at the Royal Adelaide Hospital, told the Australian newspaper.
Red Bull Australia spokeswoman Linda Rychter said the report would be assessed by the company's head office in Austria.
"The study does not show effects which would go beyond that of drinking a cup of coffee. Therefore, the reported results were to be expected and lie within the normal physiological range," Rychter told Reuters.
Willoughby and his team tested the cardiovascular systems of 30 young adults one hour before and one hour after consuming one 250ml can of sugar-free Red Bull.
The results showed "normal people develop symptoms normally associated with cardiovascular disease" after consuming the drink, created in the 1980s by Austrian entrepreneur Dietrich Mateschitz based on a similar Thai energy drink.
Red Bull is banned in Norway, Uruguay and Denmark because of health risks listed on its cans, but the company last year sold 3.5 billion cans in 143 countries. One can contains 80 mg of caffeine, around the same as a normal cup of brewed coffee.
The Austria-based company, whose marketing says "Red Bull gives you wings", sponsors Formula 1 race cars and extreme sport events around the world, but warns consumers not to drink more than two cans a day.
Rychter said Red Bull could only have such global sales because health authorities across the world had concluded the drink was safe to consume.
But Willoughby said Red Bull could be deadly when combined with stress or high blood pressure, impairing proper blood vessel function and possibly lifting the risk of blood clotting.
"If you have any predisposition to cardiovascular disease, I'd think twice about drinking it," he said.
(Editing by David Fogarty)
Study adds colon cancer to list for trans fatsf harm
By Stephen Daniells
10-Sep-2008 - Increased intakes of trans fatty acids may increase the risk of colorectal tumours by about 86 per cent, suggests new research from the US. The study followed almost 622 North Carolinians who underwent complete colon exams between 2001 and 2002 and found significant colorectal cancer risk increases for higher intakes of trans fatty acids.
The study, published in the American Journal of Epidemiology, looks set to heap more pressure on the food industry to remove and reformulate products without trans fats, one of the industryfs bêtes noires.
"These results suggest that consumption of high amounts of trans-fatty acid may increase the risk of colorectal neoplasia [abnormal cell growth in the colon and rectum], and they provide additional support to recommendations to limit trans-fatty acid consumption," wrote lead author Lisa Vinikoor from the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.
Though trace amounts of trans fats are found naturally in dairy and meats, the vast majority are formed during the partial hydrogenation of vegetable oil that converts the oil into semi-solids for a variety of food applications.
Trans fatty acids have been useful in foods due to their extended shelf life and flavour stability, and displaced natural solid fats and liquid oils in many areas of food processing.
But scientific reports that trans fatty acids raise serum levels of LDL-cholesterol, reduce levels of HDL-cholesterol, can promote inflammation, can cause endothelial dysfunction, and influence other risk factors for cardiovascular diseases (CVD), has led to a well-publicised bans in New York City and Philadelphia restaurants, and other cities, like Boston and Chicago, considering similar measures.
The new study adds to a small number of previous studies reporting that increased levels of markers of trans-fat intake are associated with an increase risk of cancer of the colon and rectum.
Colorectal cancer is the third most diagnosed cancer in the US, according to the American Cancer Society. About 150,000 new cases will be diagnosed in the US this year, says the society, with an almost 50-50 split between men and women.
Study details
Vinikoor and co-workers recruited over 600 people from the University of North Carolina Hospitals. Dietary, lifestyle and other demographic details about them were achieved via interview, while colorectal health was verified using results of complete colonoscopies.
The highest trans fatty acid consumption was associated with an 86 per cent increase in colorectal cancer risk, compared to the lowest consumption.
Further analysis of the colorectal area suggested that trans fatty acid consumption did not influence the location, size or number of benign tumours (adenoma).
While further studies are required to verify the results, it is clear that the study may heap more pressure on the food industry to reformulate and remove trans fattyfs from products.
Alternatives to trans fats
The food industry as a whole has expressed its commitment to removing trans fatty acids from its products, but such reformulation is not straightforward and presents challenges.
Paul Wassell and Niall Young from Danisco's Multiple Food Application Group reviewed the options available to formulators and stated that designing foods with trans-fat alternatives must be a gmultidisciplinary' approach" (International Journal of Food Science and Technology, Vol. 42, pp 503-517).
gSuccessful replacements of trans fatty acids is not easily achieved by simply removing the trans isomer, because of a host of beneficial functional characteristics that are readily attributable to trans fatty acids," wrote Wassell and Young, pointing out that the presence of the trans isomer influences melting behaviour, oxidative stability and textural properties.
At last year's IFT in Chicago, Walter Willett from Harvard School of Public Health said that limiting and labelling trans fatty acids in food is not enough, and they should be banned.
Professor Willett told food manufacturers and food professionals in Chicago that Denmark had taken the right approach to the trans fatty acid issue – the Scandinavian country introduced legislation in 2004 that required locally and imported foods to contain less than two per cent industrially made trans fatty acids, a move that effectively abolished the use of partially hydrogenated vegetable oils in the country.
Source: American Journal of Epidemiology
Volume 168, Issue 3, Pages 289-297; doi:10.1093/aje/kwn134
gConsumption of trans-Fatty Acid and Its Association with Colorectal Adenomash
Authors: L.C. Vinikoor, J.C. Schroeder, R.C. Millikan, J.A. Satia, C.F. Martin, J. Ibrahim, J.A. Galanko, R.S. Sandler
By Stephen Daniells
10-Sep-2008 - Increased intakes of trans fatty acids may increase the risk of colorectal tumours by about 86 per cent, suggests new research from the US. The study followed almost 622 North Carolinians who underwent complete colon exams between 2001 and 2002 and found significant colorectal cancer risk increases for higher intakes of trans fatty acids.
The study, published in the American Journal of Epidemiology, looks set to heap more pressure on the food industry to remove and reformulate products without trans fats, one of the industryfs bêtes noires.
"These results suggest that consumption of high amounts of trans-fatty acid may increase the risk of colorectal neoplasia [abnormal cell growth in the colon and rectum], and they provide additional support to recommendations to limit trans-fatty acid consumption," wrote lead author Lisa Vinikoor from the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.
Though trace amounts of trans fats are found naturally in dairy and meats, the vast majority are formed during the partial hydrogenation of vegetable oil that converts the oil into semi-solids for a variety of food applications.
Trans fatty acids have been useful in foods due to their extended shelf life and flavour stability, and displaced natural solid fats and liquid oils in many areas of food processing.
But scientific reports that trans fatty acids raise serum levels of LDL-cholesterol, reduce levels of HDL-cholesterol, can promote inflammation, can cause endothelial dysfunction, and influence other risk factors for cardiovascular diseases (CVD), has led to a well-publicised bans in New York City and Philadelphia restaurants, and other cities, like Boston and Chicago, considering similar measures.
The new study adds to a small number of previous studies reporting that increased levels of markers of trans-fat intake are associated with an increase risk of cancer of the colon and rectum.
Colorectal cancer is the third most diagnosed cancer in the US, according to the American Cancer Society. About 150,000 new cases will be diagnosed in the US this year, says the society, with an almost 50-50 split between men and women.
Study details
Vinikoor and co-workers recruited over 600 people from the University of North Carolina Hospitals. Dietary, lifestyle and other demographic details about them were achieved via interview, while colorectal health was verified using results of complete colonoscopies.
The highest trans fatty acid consumption was associated with an 86 per cent increase in colorectal cancer risk, compared to the lowest consumption.
Further analysis of the colorectal area suggested that trans fatty acid consumption did not influence the location, size or number of benign tumours (adenoma).
While further studies are required to verify the results, it is clear that the study may heap more pressure on the food industry to reformulate and remove trans fattyfs from products.
Alternatives to trans fats
The food industry as a whole has expressed its commitment to removing trans fatty acids from its products, but such reformulation is not straightforward and presents challenges.
Paul Wassell and Niall Young from Danisco's Multiple Food Application Group reviewed the options available to formulators and stated that designing foods with trans-fat alternatives must be a gmultidisciplinary' approach" (International Journal of Food Science and Technology, Vol. 42, pp 503-517).
gSuccessful replacements of trans fatty acids is not easily achieved by simply removing the trans isomer, because of a host of beneficial functional characteristics that are readily attributable to trans fatty acids," wrote Wassell and Young, pointing out that the presence of the trans isomer influences melting behaviour, oxidative stability and textural properties.
At last year's IFT in Chicago, Walter Willett from Harvard School of Public Health said that limiting and labelling trans fatty acids in food is not enough, and they should be banned.
Professor Willett told food manufacturers and food professionals in Chicago that Denmark had taken the right approach to the trans fatty acid issue – the Scandinavian country introduced legislation in 2004 that required locally and imported foods to contain less than two per cent industrially made trans fatty acids, a move that effectively abolished the use of partially hydrogenated vegetable oils in the country.
Source: American Journal of Epidemiology
Volume 168, Issue 3, Pages 289-297; doi:10.1093/aje/kwn134
gConsumption of trans-Fatty Acid and Its Association with Colorectal Adenomash
Authors: L.C. Vinikoor, J.C. Schroeder, R.C. Millikan, J.A. Satia, C.F. Martin, J. Ibrahim, J.A. Galanko, R.S. Sandler
To complement the above:
Source FDA
Major Food Sources of Trans Fat for American Adults
(Average Daily Trans Fat Intake is 5.8 Grams or 2.6 Percent of Calories)
40%
cakes, cookies, crackers, pies, bread, etc.
21%
animal products
17%
margarine
8%
fried potatoes
5%
potato chips, corn chips, popcorn
4%
household shortening
3%
salad dressing
1%
breakfast cereal
1%
candy
Source FDA
Major Food Sources of Trans Fat for American Adults
(Average Daily Trans Fat Intake is 5.8 Grams or 2.6 Percent of Calories)
40%
cakes, cookies, crackers, pies, bread, etc.
21%
animal products
17%
margarine
8%
fried potatoes
5%
potato chips, corn chips, popcorn
4%
household shortening
3%
salad dressing
1%
breakfast cereal
1%
candy
EstherM wrote:
Major Food Sources of Trans Fat for American Adults
(Average Daily Trans Fat Intake is 5.8 Grams or 2.6 Percent of Calories)
40%
cakes, cookies, crackers, pies, bread, etc.
can't beat a good cake, bread, and pie :beaten:
EstherM wrote:To complement the above:
Source FDA
Major Food Sources of Trans Fat for American Adults
(Average Daily Trans Fat Intake is 5.8 Grams or 2.6 Percent of Calories)
40%
cakes, cookies, crackers, pies, bread, etc.
21%
animal products
17%
margarine
8%
fried potatoes
5%
potato chips, corn chips, popcorn
4%
household shortening
3%
salad dressing
1%
breakfast cereal
1%
candy
Interesting info. Thanks for the post. Good thing I don't eat cakes, cookies, crackers (rarely), or pies. :sweat:
Tu_triky wrote:
Interesting info. Thanks for the post. Good thing I don't eat cakes, cookies, crackers (rarely), or pies. :sweat:
Likewise, I should be okay (and contrary to popular belief I don't eat fries) but I eat bread - I try to buy it in old-school bakeries that still use real butter for their croissants.
monta wrote:
can't beat a good cake, bread, and pie :beaten:
Done with quality ingredients they are ok :mrgreen: :victory:
Tu_triky wrote:Interesting info. Thanks for the post. Good thing I don't eat cakes, cookies, crackers (rarely), or pies. :sweat:
Those stats are generalized, I'm sure: most/all manufacturers are moving away from trans fat usage in their products...
bmwracer wrote:
Those stats are generalized, I'm sure: most/all manufacturers are moving away from trans fat usage in their products...
I see your point and I agree...but most PEOPLE aren't moving away from trans fat consumption though...do you think most of our fellow bethren even read a product label? :sweat: Doubtful. Especially in these difficult times...most ppl are going for the cheapest ish they can buy and that is usually the least healthy of prevailing food options.
It always kind of irks me how the the unhealthiest crap is the cheapest while something healthy or reasonably healthy is orders of magnitude more expensive....like how you can get a friekin' BUCKET of soda for under a dollar but if you wanted a simple bottle of clean water you could easily pay double that for half the amount.
EstherM wrote:Likewise, I should be okay (and contrary to popular belief I don't eat fries) but I eat bread - I try to buy it in old-school bakeries that still use real butter for their croissants.
Yeah if you are going to eat baked goods you might as well get them with natural ingredients, not crap like margarine and other hydrogenated fats...it's much healthier for you. :victory:
Tu_triky wrote:It always kind of irks me how the the unhealthiest crap is the cheapest while something healthy or reasonably healthy is orders of magnitude more expensive....like how you can get a friekin' BUCKET of soda for under a dollar but if you wanted a simple bottle of clean water you could easily pay double that for half the amount.
Yup... Since I changed my eating habitsto more healthy fare, my weekly food bill is at least double. :sweat:
Eating healthy is going to bankrupt me. :beaten:
bmwracer wrote:
Yup... Since I changed my eating habits to more healthy fare, my weekly food bill is at least double. :sweat:
I know it friekin' sucks...when you switch to healthier, leaner proteins, higher quality breads, healthier carbohydrates such as veggies and brown rice, fruits and healthier snacks instead of the typical junk food, etc. it IS more expensive. That is so wack.
Eating healthy is going to bankrupt me. :beaten:
Thank goodness for Costco! Or we could all eat 23,000 Big Macs and leave it at that.
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