Hachimitsu to Kuroba (Honey and Clover)

I dunno, if it ever dropped that low I'd think the amount of episodes would definitely get cut. Other dramas have gotten pretty low but they were during different timeslots which usually had less viewers.

hmmm yeah i get what you guys mean. i forgot its a manga. gomen *bows* well, i just hope it doesnt affect toma's career n 'potential' in mr johnny's eyes.

atskv9 wrote:I dunno, if it ever dropped that low I'd think the amount of episodes would definitely get cut. Other dramas have gotten pretty low but they were during different timeslots which usually had less viewers.

OMG! :banghead:

just when I start enjoying the drama and start thinking toma looks cute, they are doing this to me?

please don't let it drop further.... 11 episodes are already very few....

^^Well, that's just a hypothetical obviously. Just my take on it. Who knows what could happen if the ratings drop any lower...

t1n9 wrote:hmmm yeah i get what you guys mean. i forgot its a manga. gomen *bows* well, i just hope it doesnt affect toma's career n 'potential' in mr johnny's eyes.

I agree with you. I mean this is a big break for toma and the rest of the cast.. it would be sad if things didn't turn well ne?? :sweat:


and yeah to granpa johnny's eyes.. I want a solo career to toma in JE and now.. my dreams are shattered.. :shakehead:

i like ikuta toma but sorry to say , this show's a complete letdown . it's ruined the anime&manga and the character's images . shinobu's image is way whacked . and toma just doesnt cut out to play the role of takemoto . casting sucks , chemistry sucks . rika san isnt so FAT . if anything , she's the most frail character in the manga but hey , she looks fit as a cow to me .

the storyline started out wrong & everything's mangled up in a gigantuan mess . in the first place , the characters werent supposed to be in such a pronounced love triangle affair nonsense & that stuff was just a sideline in the anime . but the show seems to revolve around it & makes this jap drama almost as sickening as those kinda draggy lovey tug-of-war taiwan serials that have no better interest than to create love pentagons with no other themes in their boring scripts .

the plot basis has been tuned wrong & the tune is way off-pitched . everything in the drama's way too different , its like 1% related to the original plot . even the most quintessential of all - the way the main characters meet - had to be changed . that's why the opening's equivalent to a major slap to the animes&manga fans of honey and clover . this didnt hapen , that didnt happen , ALL of it didnt happen . the only things retained are some really FEW scenes from the anime . i mean FEW as in one or two , at the most . and the characters' names .

whatever the producers are thinking , this is the epitome of manga-turned-drama-gone-wrong .

simpletoad wrote:i like ikuta toma but sorry to say , this show's a complete letdown . it's ruined the anime&manga and the character's images . shinobu's image is way whacked . and toma just doesnt cut out to play the role of takemoto . casting sucks , chemistry sucks . rika san isnt so FAT . if anything , she's the most frail character in the manga but hey , she looks fit as a cow to me .

the storyline started out wrong & everything's mangled up in a gigantuan mess . in the first place , the characters werent supposed to be in such a pronounced love triangle affair nonsense & that stuff was just a sideline in the anime . but the show seems to revolve around it & makes this jap drama almost as sickening as those kinda draggy lovey tug-of-war taiwan serials that have no better interest than to create love pentagons with no other themes in their boring scripts .

the plot basis has been tuned wrong & the tune is way off-pitched . everything in the drama's way too different , its like 1% related to the original plot . even the most quintessential of all - the way the main characters meet - had to be changed . that's why the opening's equivalent to a major slap to the animes&manga fans of honey and clover . this didnt hapen , that didnt happen , ALL of it didnt happen . the only things retained are some really FEW scenes from the anime . i mean FEW as in one or two , at the most . and the characters' names .

whatever the producers are thinking , this is the epitome of manga-turned-drama-gone-wrong .

your review is soooo :hot:

t1n9 wrote:hmmm yeah i get what you guys mean. i forgot its a manga. gomen *bows* well, i just hope it doesnt affect toma's career n 'potential' in mr johnny's eyes.

i think exactly the same as you... i said that a long time ago.

I really hope that Hachikuro doesn't get cut !!


And if the low rating is just cuz the dorama is not faithful to the manga... then wth?

Maybe i should read the manga and compare.... maybe.

sigh..... that's why i said it is better not to watch manga and anime ...

see! it spoils the expectation for the drama. :doh:

chokakoi wrote:sigh..... that's why i said it is better not to watch manga and anime ...

see! it spoils the expectation for the drama. :doh:

well, it can't be help since both of them were released first.. :shakehead:

Lucky I was never interested in manga nor anime...

anyway, there was one scene in episode 4 which was very funny...
its about toma, senpai and the cuckoo clock... haha...

atskv9 wrote:I dunno, if it ever dropped that low I'd think the amount of episodes would definitely get cut. Other dramas have gotten pretty low but they were during different timeslots which usually had less viewers.

Only for NTV and TV Asahi dramas. Things like cutting out the no. of episodes for a Fuji TV or TBS drama rarely happen.

WD wrote:Only for NTV and TV Asahi dramas. Things like cutting out the no. of episodes for a Fuji TV or TBS drama rarely happen.

Ahh okay. Thanks WD :) I did notice that happened more often on TV Asahi for sure.

chokakoi wrote:sigh..... that's why i said it is better not to watch manga and anime ...

see! it spoils the expectation for the drama. :doh:

actually it's okay to watch the anime and read the manga... but as for me luckily i wasn't able to watch it or read so i like it..

and I'm much more interested with dramas than anime as of now.. though i'm so addicted with anime before :hehe:

atskv9 wrote:
Ahh okay. Thanks WD :) I did notice that happened more often on TV Asahi for sure.

AHHHHHH...... now i know why one of my favourite drama many years ago have such an abrupt ending!!! Because it was by TV Asahi! :banghead:

kisarazu wrote:

actually it's okay to watch the anime and read the manga... but as for me luckily i wasn't able to watch it or read so i like it..

and I'm much more interested with dramas than anime as of now.. though i'm so addicted with anime before :hehe:

yeah... I'm also more interested in dramas.... moreover dramas have real-life eye candies... add more punch to a story. :hehe:

chokakoi wrote:


yeah... I'm also more interested in dramas.... moreover dramas have real-life eye candies... add more punch to a story. :hehe:

yeah.. rather than fantasizing a fictional bishonen character.. though i still really like animes.. coz without it.. I wouldn't br in the world of japanes culture and entertainment :mrgreen:

well then lucky me i haven seen either of the manga n the anime too. thou im a huge fan of mangas haha but theres always limited sources here[else they are just WAY too EXPENSIVE]. hmmm but yeah, prob i shd watch e drama first n den catch the anime or sth. at least like tt i'll enjoy toma a bit more i guess.

oh i see nither have i seen the the manga nor the anime
but i saw the movie
u know with sho for arashi
but from what i see it change a whole
lot is that somthing good or what

One thing I must say is: I really like the drama's Morita. He's perfect. I always thought the one in the movie was quite weak. On the other hand, I still think Aoi Yuu was the better Hagu.