Takeuchi Yuko

Poor Yuko. Glad she divorced his ass because no woman deserves to be treated like that. And thank goodness she got out of that lifestyle. Who knew that the kabuki life was so prison-like.

I found some things really strange about her ex's involvement with Okamoto Aya. First of all, both she and Yuko starred in Ima, Ai ni Yukimasu, but the former was in the drama, latter was in the movie.

Another thing that was that my first encounter with both of them were in asadoramas--Okamoto in Audrey and Yuko in Asuka. Audrey was shown right after Asuka finished. Weird.

Tu_triky wrote:

They have changed Shido's name to Shitto.....

:lol:
That was enlightening. Thanks yanie_chan. :thumbsup:

but... ah... if Shido's mother and Matsu Takako's mother are sisters. That means she slept and married her cousin? :bleh: Shitto wouldn't happen to have a pickup truck with a confederate flag on it, would he? :hehe: :beaten:

tabana wrote:
:lol:
That was enlightening. Thanks yanie_chan. :thumbsup:

but... ah... if Shido's mother and Matsu Takako's mother are sisters. That means she slept and married her cousin? :bleh: Shitto wouldn't happen to have a pickup truck with a confederate flag on it, would he? :hehe: :beaten:

Wait, what? Who slept/married their cousin?

tabana wrote:
:lol:
That was enlightening. Thanks yanie_chan. :thumbsup:

but... ah... if Shido's mother and Matsu Takako's mother are sisters. That means she slept and married her cousin? :bleh: Shitto wouldn't happen to have a pickup truck with a confederate flag on it, would he? :hehe: :beaten:

LOL....you're funny, dude.

Yeah I didn't know all about the stoggy traditions of the kabuki world....definitely an education for me.

It's crazy, if you ask me. Tradition is good and all, but this ish sounds like slavery to me. The good old ball and chain. :whipped: It's like a maid you don't have to pay. It's not like she was doing porno movies and her husband was the prime minister. :rolleyes:

Wynter wrote:

Wait, what? Who slept/married their cousin?

this, but I got the name wrong. Sorry. It's Matsu Takako's mother. :ashamed:

yanie_chan wrote:...A good example of an evil mother-in-law who tortures the daughter-in-law >_< (FYI, Shido's mother and Matsu Takako's mother are sisters. But Matsu's mother is totally an angel, IMHO^^)...

^So how does that make Yuko-chan and her husband cousins?

yanie_chan wrote:I really feel sorry for Takeuchi Yuko, her divorce problem doesn't seem to end soon. And she is still legally Nakamura Shido's wife until now :sweat: (though they have separate)

I only know recently that Yuko grew up without a father. I'm not sure whether her parents got divorced, or her father died, though. Does anyone know whether she has siblings?

After filming Shiroi Kage, she dated Kamikawa Takaya, dunno for how long, though. Then in 2004, she met Nakamura Shido on the filming set of "Ima, Ai ni Yukimasu". In May 2005, it was revealed she was 3-months pregnant and so she and Shido were "dekichatta kekkon". It was hell for Takeuchi Yuko, coz she didn't realize that if she marry a kabuki actor, that means she has to give up everything for her husband's career. Being a bride in a kabuki family, means she has to give up her career, and fully support her husband and she can only do that, she cannot two-time by having a career too. Kabuki world is a very strict society. Being a bride in kabuki family, their task is to support the husband and give birth to a baby boy, that's all they have to do, and can do.
Whenever her husband has kabuki play, she has to attend the play too, for the official greetings to the audience. Basically the wives of actors on stage have to attend the greetings event...it's a basic tradition.

Yuko had a career, of course she was reluctant to give up everything. But she received pressure from Nakamura Shido's mother. From the Japanese fans, I heard that Shido's mother is "EVIL". A good example of an evil mother-in-law who tortures the daughter-in-law >_< (FYI, Shido's mother and Matsu Takako's mother are sisters. But Matsu's mother is totally an angel, IMHO^^)
But Yuko had no choice. That's why, she stopped her acting activities for a year.

During their marriage, the media caught Nakamura Shido with other women, different women in different places. The peak was June 2006, when Nakamura Shido created a scandal, he did a traffic violation due to drinking, and he was found with Okamoto Aya in the car.

I stumbled upon this when I was just looking around info on Takeuchi Yuko: http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q128813977

Some kind of a question-answer Japanese forum. This question was created on July 2006.

The question is:
In the kabuki society world, are men really allowed to do anything to the women, except killing them? Takeuchi Yuko is very unfortunate...
I think the kabuki society is a world where to live or to die is not important anymore for them!

One of the answer was:
Indeed, the women married to this society is really unfortunate... I pity them. I also feel like saying, "Who do you think you are??!", whenever I observe the kabuki people. Are they really that powerful??

Wow, I'm surprised! The men in the kabuki society can do anything to their wives except to kill them? @_@
So it's true, the kabuki society are treated like the royal families by the Japanese public. They can also influence the media to write things they want them to write.
I guess, that's why the younger generation always create troubles and thinks that they can do things as they wish? Just like Ichikawa Ebizo and Nakamura Shido who play around with women alot. Also, Nakamura Shichinosuke who did a drinking-traffic violation too. And I heard, Ichikawa Somegoro (FYI, my most favorite kabuki actor), Matsu Takako's brother... had an illegitimate child T_T

Anyway, apparently, Yuko couldn't stand it anymore, and filed the divorce papers in October 2006. However, Shido doesn't want to divorce her. Shido's mother against it totally, coz once Yuko enter the kabuki circle as a bride, she shouldn't be able to go out, that's the law in this society. She should've serve her husband for the rest of her life.
When I saw Yuko's first TV appearance ever since she got married, which was in SmaStation Kimura Takuya SP (just on the VTR), I was surprised!! She looked so stressed. Kawaii sou~ ah here I have the cap:

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Then finally Shido was willing to talk about the divorce, but Yuko would want to take custody of their son and won't let him to see his son ever again. Shido's family was raged, coz they want to raise Shido's son as a kabuki actor. A first son in this society is like a rare treasure. Thus, the custody battle continues and seem like there's no ending to it.

In this one year, there had been bad rumours about Takeuchi Yuko in the Josei magazines. Stuff like "actually Takeuchi Yuko also had an affair with another man", or "Takeuchi grew up without a father so she thinks her son doesn't need a father", or "ever since she got married, Takeuchi didn't care at all about the kabuki tradition, she's a selfish person". But most fans suspect this to be Shido's mother's doing, who asked the media to write these stuff.

Although they are not officially divorced yet, since she separate herself from Shido, she has begun her acting activities again.

Shido had been asked twice in the beginning of this year about the divorce case, but he only smiled and didn't answer. There was a rumour that the case has been finally settled, and that Yuko has won their son's custody, and they have submitted the divorce application to the ward office on January 27th. But there has been no official news about this yet.

Well... true, recently, Takeuchi Yuko looks really happy and had been all smiley on TV programs. So, I'm thinking, maybe its true she has finally won their son's custody... that, or she has secretly dating someone else right now :hehe:

I really think that what Shido had done to Takeuchi was really crap, but thereLs a lot of exaggeration concerning the Kabuki World in your post. I have to question some things you wrote there.
Ok, Kabuki World is in fact full of evil and conservative conventions and rules concerning marriage of the actors, but, in the same time, we have to keep in mind that a lot of other instances of Japanese society and families have that same kind of rules.
ItLs also true that a totally supportive to husband behaviour is expected from a wife of a Kabuki actor. And itLs also true that a lot of female stars who decided to marry Kabuki actors had the course of their careers harmed by this fact, but when they took this decision, they knew this would be happen, and the most of them accepted their destiny (and the most of them werenLt forced to marry). But this not necessarily means the end of the career of a female actress. I can mention the example of Onoe KikugoroLs wife, Fuji Junko, who still takes roles in movies. And not only in Kabuki World a marriage can reduce the number of works for a actress. Two exemples of that are Hirosue Ryoko and Matsushima Nanako, who are still acting, but taking less roles than the time they were single and with no kids.
And the fact of Kabuki families being treated in Japan as royal families like you said doesnLt give the actors the absolute power of living or death of their wives or children and doesnLt keep them from being judged and punished by society, media and the own Kabuki World. What Ebizo, Shichinosuke, Somegoro and Shido himself did may not harmed their careers dramatically, but, believe me, they suffered some kind of punishment for their behaviour. Shido, for example, spent about an year without being casted for a Kabuki production after the end of his marriage with Yuko. For a Kabuki actor, thatLs a big punishment. And we have to keep in mind that the "playboy lifestyle" is not an exclusiveness of Kabuki or Japan. I could spend lots of pages listing names of Japanese and other countriesL celebrities (my country, Brazil, included) who have this kind of behaviour.
We also have to keep in mind that not everything what media says deserves credit. In Japan, as well in anywhere in the World, scandals and quarrels unfortunately help to sell magazines and newspapers. And lots of untrue things can be written or said in order to atract more readers and viewers.
And in modern World, Kabuki World is not so conservative and evil as it was before, although itLs still being a conservative and demanding World. But some people tend to exaggerate the truth and we have to try to know how things work in real life before giving credit to some myths and common ideas.
I want to stress that ILm not defending Shido here. ILm happy to know that Yuko is happier without him. ILm just trying to let you know that Kabuki is not so cruel as some people here are saying.

adub2adub wrote:Yanie_Chan,

Much appreciation for the info! :woot:

...but how did you find out all of this?? Did you get all of this news from this site: http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q128813977 ?? :headscratch:

Plus, you translated all of that? Impressive, if you did. :sweat:

I'm sorry that I did not mention the sources. This is just like an essay from all of the information I gathered (read and heard), by reading articles here and there. Okay, so these are some sources I can remember...

1. I just recently talked (gossiping? LOL!) with my Nihongo sensei (a Japanese) about Shido-Yuko matter. And she told me some stuff about the kabuki traditions, seem like she knows pretty well about it. Her aunts are traditional people who does ikebana and/or Japanese traditional dance (Nihon buyou), so I think what she said was reliable. Opinion from those obasan-s, they are on Takeuchi Yuko's side, coz it was clear that Shido did the faults.

2. Most of the infos on Shido-Yuko divorce battle, I got it from the fans on 2-channel BBS board. May not be so reliable, but what these fans says makes sense: http://human7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/uwasa/1187020873/

3. One of the recent rumour article I translated, was this:

Ima, Wakare ni Yukimasu (Part with You)
translated by Yanie

Nakamura Shido and Takeuchi Yuko has FINALLY hand over the divorce application to the ward office in January 27th, 2008, and that their divorce case has been settled.

Their son's custody case was a big problem, since Shido want his son to inherit his kabuki family generation and of course, he wanted to educate him to be a kabuki actor. But if Takeuchi takes custody of their son, he'll loose all the rights to do all these. Takeuchi Yuko filed the divorce papers and hired a divorce lawyer since October 2006. Ironically, their marriage was a speed shotgun, but their divorce took this long.

Eventually, Shido lost the case, and it has been decided that Takeuchi Yuko will take custody of their son from now on.

Meanwhile, in the filming set of "Bara no nai Hanaya", there has been rumours that Takeuchi is romantically involved with her co-star, Katori Shingo. Since her divorce case is almost settled, perhaps she's ready for a new romance. Let's just hope she'd able to find a man who doesn't do illicit affairs, this time.

source: http://www.nekomimi-news.net/archives/601623.html

Betsy Hayashi wrote:I really think that what Shido had done to Takeuchi was really crap, but thereLs a lot of exaggeration concerning the Kabuki World in your post. I have to question some things you wrote there.

Ah, thank you for enlightening everything, Betsy!!^0^ It's either I misunderstood stuff, or I didn't clearly explain more on the earlier post, I'm sorry if it sounded like an exaggeration.

Betsy Hayashi wrote:Ok, Kabuki World is in fact full of evil and conservative conventions and rules concerning marriage of the actors, but, in the same time, we have to keep in mind that a lot of other instances of Japanese society and families have that same kind of rules.

Yes, same strict traditions goes to "Tea Ceremony" families and "Ikebana" families, right? Actually, I don't think they're evil at all. Did I say it like they're evil? :sweat: Those were just rules and traditions, and they're just continuing what has been applied since thousand years ago. And not all kabuki actors are like Nakamura Shido, of course. Each society contains different kind of human... even if the image of one society is bad, I'm 100% sure that not all of the humans in that society is bad.

Well, actually, I don't think kabuki is a bad society at all. I admire their traditions and performances. I admire that they can still preserve their traditions till now, and that's why I'm very, very interested in this kabuki society. Even when I finally know that there were bad stuff of what the younger generation did, I still admire kabuki.

Betsy Hayashi wrote:ItLs also true that a totally supportive to husband behaviour is expected from a wife of a Kabuki actor. And itLs also true that a lot of female stars who decided to marry Kabuki actors had the course of their careers harmed by this fact, but when they took this decision, they knew this would be happen, and the most of them accepted their destiny (and the most of them werenLt forced to marry). But this not necessarily means the end of the career of a female actress. I can mention the example of Onoe KikugoroLs wife, Fuji Junko, who still takes roles in movies.

Wooh... that's new to me. Thank you! I didn't know that. Actually, it was my Nihongo sensei who told me that being a kabuki actor's wife means they have to end their career completely and live in the kabuki path. Perhaps, this was long time ago? And there are some changes now?

Yes, I agree with you, that when one decide to be married to the kabuki family, she has to know and ready for the consequences. Unfortunately, Takeuchi Yuko is not one of them, ne. It was a rush, she has no time to think, coz she was already pregnant. If it was not because of pregnancy, Takeuchi Yuko who was still enjoying her career and has a "free soul" must have think twice before marrying Shido. It was too bad, really.

Truthfully, somehow I kinda side with the kabuki people here. I'm a big fan of Matsu Takako's family, I admire Matsumoto Koshiro as a kabuki performer and a stage actor, and I also love Ichikawa Somegoro alot. I really respect the kabuki society and their traditions.

So actually, I'm surprised and disappointed when I read rumours that Takeuchi Yuko said, "I have no intention to raise my son as a kabuki actor from the beginning,". From the beginning? When was that, even before the baby was born? That means she really don't care about the kabuki traditions? Or has she planned to divorce Shido from the beginning too?? But then, I read some of the fans said, "That article must be written by Shido's mother's request!! That obasan is very slicky,". I hope that's true, coz if she really said that, I feel disappointed with her :shakehead:

I'd like to say, that Yuko should've be more patient or forgive Shido... I mean, Shido MIGHT change if Yuko give him a chance right? Or if Yuko really loves Shido, she should've been able to give him a chance for the sake of their son. There ARE some people who are blaming Yuko too, actually. Thinking that Yuko is choosing the easy way, and just tried to escape, can't stand a little trouble, and so on and so on.

But on the other hand, I can understand very well her feelings too. She's the type of woman who definitely cannot be "prisoned", PLUS Shido had affair with different women in their FIRST year of marriage. I can understand if she really want to get out of all these. But again, she said, she won't let Shido to meet their son ever again? Hmm, I think, that's a bit too much, she should be more tolerable about this. But just like you said, Betsy, not everything the media said can be trusted, so I guess I don't have the rights to judge them.

I'll trust what my eyes sees. Takeuchi Yuko seems to be a nice and genuine person from the varieties and interviews I saw, she's open and kind-hearted. I like her acting and I like her personality. She looks like a fun person. And she watches anime!! (haha, I dunno why, just thought that's cool^^) When she appeared in Bistro Smap 5 years ago, she said her hobby is to drink sake while eating peanuts^^
But then, it's not impossible that she also has selfish and stubborn traits too. Maybe just a little part of her^^
I actually like Nakamura Shido as an actor, and a voice actor (love Ryuk!!). And he has an interesting, weird, funny character too. He was great in Roningai stageplay, and on the closing greetings, I love to see that when Shido kept joking around, Matsu Takako held back his arm like saying, "That's enough, Shido-kun, enough!"... very cousin-like interactions^^ But now, I feel disappointed that aside the fact he's a playboy, he's also a mommy's boy >_< I hope he can change these.

Betsy Hayashi wrote:And the fact of Kabuki families being treated in Japan as royal families like you said doesnLt give the actors the absolute power of living or death of their wives or children

I translated that question-answer was just to reveal what some people think about kabuki world, and that it seem its true, this world is really strict and has conventional ways. That was not my opinion :sweat:

Betsy Hayashi wrote:and doesnLt keep them from being judged and punished by society, media and the own Kabuki World.

Ah, my mistake then. Sorry^^

Betsy Hayashi wrote:What Ebizo, Shichinosuke, Somegoro and Shido himself did may not harmed their careers dramatically, but, believe me, they suffered some kind of punishment for their behaviour. Shido, for example, spent about an year without being casted for a Kabuki production after the end of his marriage with Yuko. For a Kabuki actor, thatLs a big punishment.

Hooh... I didn't know abt Shido's punishment.
But I heard that when Ichikawa Somegoro's illegitimate child was revealed, the media didn't dig in about this too much, coz they respect Koshiro's family. Is this true??

Betsy Hayashi wrote:We also have to keep in mind that not everything what media says deserves credit. In Japan, as well in anywhere in the World, scandals and quarrels unfortunately help to sell magazines and newspapers. And lots of untrue things can be written or said in order to atract more readers and viewers.

Yup, I agree.

Betsy Hayashi wrote:I want to stress that ILm not defending Shido here. ILm happy to know that Yuko is happier without him. ILm just trying to let you know that Kabuki is not so cruel as some people here are saying.

I'm sorry if my earlier post give bad image on the kabuki world x)

Great post, Yanie !!!! ILm glad the things are now more clear. ILve really expected that from you. :good:
Actually, I think that both Yuko and Shido werenLt in fact prepared for the marriage. ItLs clear that none of them had plans for that. I think they are only enjoying thenselves at that time, starting a relationship. But the pregnancy struck, and the pressure started. They were forced, probably by ShidoLs mother, to marriage. And you know, when a marriage starts this way, it doesnLt last much.
I donLt believe that Yuko said such a thing about the babyLs destiny. As I said before, not everything what media says itLs true. And that Josei magazines are filled with :shit:(I know, I had the chance to read them...) But, IMHO, even if she had said that, I think that doesnLt mean sheLs selfish or doesnLt care about Kabuki traditions. Being a Kabuki actor is not easy at all. Ebizo, for example, almost gave up Kabuki in his teens because of the pressure he was forced to overcome. And ShidoLs father gave up his career and became a salaryman. Yuko probably knows how heavy is the life of a Kabuki actor and wanted to protect his baby boy. In other hand let the baby choose his own destiny is the most correct attitude for the parents to take, and say what the baby will be or not is somewhat bad.
I donLt know Yuko much, I only watched "Ima, Ai ni..." and some short interviews, but she seemed to be a nice person. Shido also seems a nice guy, but somewhat immature yet. And hanging out with other girls during his marriage with Yuko, IMO, was a terrible attitude. I blame Shido more for the end of the marriage, but in the same time, as I said before, this marriage wouldnLt last much long anyway.
Sorry if take some opinions of other people as they were yours. :bow: My fault of not reading your post twice ... :bonk: :doh:
Your sensei is not mistaken about the destiny of a wife of Kabuki actor. Most of them really give up everything to support his husband, but in all rules thereLs always an excepcion, specially in modern times.
I wonLt take your time much more, but I really enjoy this discussion about tradicional arts. And you have a good taste, Koshiro and Somegoro are first class actors, as well as Takako, ILm a big fan of them as well. :victory:

Oh, I forgot to comment about the punishment of actors. Honestly, I don[t know about SomegoroLs case, because it was long ago and I didnLt follow the japanese entertaiment news at that time. But I know he was highly criticized at that time. And his relationship with Terajima Shinobu (actress, daughter of the Kabuki actor Onoe Kikugoro) ended due to this revelation.

Man, this divorce thing is dragging for so long. I hope it gets settled soon... Just let her have the kid after all it was her heartless ex that fooled around publicly. It's not like Takeuchi Yuko is some obaasan or someting, she's one of the top actress in Japan, don't understand why doesn't he just treasure her.

Anyway, Yanie Chan, never heard that she was a single family childhood. It must have been tough for her. But she's always so cheerful in the interviews these days, I think work suits her more than just staying at home.

yanie_chan wrote:I'd like to say, that Yuko should've be more patient or forgive Shido... I mean, Shido MIGHT change if Yuko give him a chance right? Or if Yuko really loves Shido, she should've been able to give him a chance for the sake of their son. There ARE some people who are blaming Yuko too, actually. Thinking that Yuko is choosing the easy way, and just tried to escape, can't stand a little trouble, and so on and so on.

EH?! I completely disagree with this. No woman should have to tolerate a man's betrayal. It's unhealthy for her, her marriage, and her child. You said that if Yuko really loved Shido, then she should have given him a chance for their son. Well, if SHIDO really loved Yuko, he shouldn't have cheated.

I know you said that you understand her feelings, but I really think she made the right choice. It's not about the type of family or the mother-in-law or anything like that. It's about her own happiness and what she feels is right for her and her child.

She made a bad mistake by rushing the marriage, but she's only human. And Shido is only human too. We shouldn't put the blame on anyone. They're both responsible for their own mistakes and for their own decisions.

I also think it's rude of us to judge either of them in this situation. We don't know them. We don't know what really happened between them in detail. All we know is what the media is sharing with us. All we can do is trust Yuko's judgement and hope everything works out. :)

Wynter wrote:EH?! I completely disagree with this. No woman should have to tolerate a man's betrayal.

I see... Not even if the man apologized and asks for another chance, for the sake of their child?

But, like you said, yes I agree, we don't know what really happens, so no rights for me to judge. I was just judging based on the WHAT-IFs ^^

yanie_chan wrote:

I see... Not even if the man apologized and asks for another chance, for the sake of their child?

Staying in a BAD relationship for the sake of the child will only HARM the child later.[/quote]

Nakamura Shido and Takeuchi Yuko has Officially Divorced
29 February 2008, 17.14 PM, Sankei Paper

translated by yanie

The married couple, Nakamura Shido and Takeuchi Yuko who had live separately for one and a half year has finally divorced today, February 29th. Nakamura, a lawyer and Takeuchi's representative person went to the Suginami ward office on this very day and has finished all the divorce application process.
As soon as the process done, Nakamura and Takeuchi immediately sent their messages to the mass communication media. And Nakamura had also updated his official website with the divorce announcement. (note: TV Asahi had also cover this divorce announcement news today)

Takeuchi Yuko's message:

To mass communication authorized personnels,

Spring is the best season, and the time where we can finally feel that spring is coming soon, has come. I'm glad to know that everyone is okay. In this opportunity, I would like to announce that me, Takeuchi Yuko, and Nakamura Shido-san had officially divorced. Once again, I'd like to apologize deeply to all people who are related and to all the fans for all the trouble and to make you all worried.
From now on, the first and foremost thing that I will think of, is the child's life. And I will continue and do my best to be an actress, with a new feeling. Yoroshiku onegaishimasu.

February 29th, 2008.
Takeuchi Yuko


Nakamura Shido's message:

To authorized personnels,

In this spring-like warm weather days, I'm glad to know everyone is alright. In this opportunity, I would like to announce that Nakamura Shido and Takeuchi Yuko-san had finally divorced. As a father, I will think of the child's life as first priority, and I will continue to be an actor. Yoroshiku onegaishimasu.

February 29th, 2008.
Nakamura Shido

source: http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20080229-00000935-san-ent



Somehow I feel sad... but also glad x) It took them less than a year to get married, and it actually took them 1,5 year to get a divorce :sweat:

Good! She's finally rid of that man. :shakehead:

yanie_chan wrote:Nakamura Shido and Takeuchi Yuko has Officially Divorced
29 February 2008, 17.14 PM, Sankei Paper


Nakamura Shido's message:

To all hostesses and celebrity women,

In this spring-like warm weather days, I'm glad to know I am free once again to sleep around with no regrets. In this opportunity, I would like to announce that Nakamura Shido and Takeuchi Yuko-san had finally divorced. As a cheater I will think of the girl sitting next to me in the car as the main priority, and I will continue to sleep around to the detriment of any possible relationships. If you have any telephone numbers of cute girls please give them to me. Denwabango oshiete kudasai.

February 29th, 2008.
Nakamura Shido

source: http://playersclub.co.jp/hl?a=20080229-00000935-san-ent

Woohoo!!

rebound chancesu.... :twisted:

krim wrote:Woohoo!!

rebound chancesu.... :twisted:

Time to move from the balcony to the living room! :metaldevil: