Computers and Related Hardware/Software

groink wrote:For me...

My less-important CD-Rs are kept in a spindle, and I place them in my bedroom closet.

My more important DVDR's are kept in individual jewel boxes, but the really thin ones that Memorex sells. I also leave them in the closet, but I've installed a huge CD holder so that they're all standing vertical like a book. Labeling, I write the contents of the disc onto the insert. I never write directly on my DVDRs. That shows my paranoid/anal side.

My audio CDs are also kept vertical in the closet. However, I never use the originals, instead I make copies of them when I first buy them. And I keep the copies in a binder.

And, my store-bought DVDs are kept on a bookshelf in my bedroom, standing vertical.

--- groink

You forgot to mention that your Noriko-chan discs (and other Noriko-chan memorabilia) are kept in an temperature and humidity controlled room with a backup generator. Just in case. :hehe: I mean, that's what I do... Less the generator. ;) :rolleyes: :hehe:

bmwracer wrote:Good information to keep in mind. I always repackage burned discs in individual envelopes or in single/multidisc jewel cases, never back onto a spindle. :)

when space is limited, and you have to move lets say once a year for the past 6-5 years (i've moved once a year so far for that long), youll start storing your cds/dvds in spindles cuz its easy to store and pack up.. :beaten:

i dont like cases for one reason, if you crack them or drop them, its real messy, and chances are that the cd gets scratched too.

some of my dvdrs are in tyvek sleeves, some are in case holders, my store bought dvds and original jpop cds are stacked vertical on shelves as well. :sweat: (i do the same thing as groink, burn my jpop cds and keep the originals somewhere safe- damn jpop cds, why do they cost so much!)

amrayu wrote:

when space is limited, and you have to move lets say once a year for the past 6-5 years (i've moved once a year so far for that long), youll start storing your cds/dvds in spindles cuz its easy to store and pack up.. :beaten:

i dont like cases for one reason, if you crack them or drop them, its real messy, and chances are that the cd gets scratched too.

some of my dvdrs are in tyvek sleeves, some are in case holders, my store bought dvds and original jpop cds are stacked vertical on shelves as well. :sweat: (i do the same thing as groink, burn my jpop cds and keep the originals somewhere safe- damn jpop cds, why do they cost so much!)

Wow. Tyvek?? I didn't realize they made the sleeves with Tyvek. Cool. :)

I have mine usually stored on the dvd/vcd box for dorama series and then line them up at the closet in multimedia room.

And as for the rest, I usually put them in cd/dvd folders till I able to find a good HQ pictures or original box.

I do periodically check on the disks every 6 months or so, I hate when I have to do this, the last time I did this took like 4 months(~10hr/day) to get all disks 'checked'.

I haven't had a CD-R or DVD-R die on me yet (about 4 year of archives). I just keep them in sleeves--cheaper & more compact than cases.

bmwracer wrote:
Wow. Tyvek?? I didn't realize they made the sleeves with Tyvek. Cool. :)

yah they are really cool, you can try as hard as you can, but you cant rip them. (i tried) :P

amrayu wrote:yah they are really cool, you can try as hard as you can, but you cant rip them. (i tried) :P

Heh, I guess that's why they use it in construction and hazmat uniforms... :applaud: :D

this is not so off topic, but have ppl considered just archiving to hard disks?

per mb costs with dvd is actually very similar, i think dvd's are slightly cheaper but at least with hd you don't have to split a series across dvd and lose out on those precious MB's.

Anyway I only have 30 DVDR and considering just buying HD's for archiving. I mean I won't leave them connected otherwise they'll wear out and of course DON'T DROP THEM :(
HD shouldn't wear out if you just leave them on the shelf for 10 years rite? Of course you have to decide on a file system and it's much faster to check them.

Is anyone doing this kind of thing or even considering? What are the pros and cons, have I missed out on something?

hakurey wrote:this is not so off topic, but have ppl considered just archiving to hard disks?

Never considered it because I think it's a bad idea. There's two reasons why IMHO a hard disk is not an archiving medium:

A hard disk is basically a mechanical device. Mechanical devices break down, they wear down, they require some sort of lubrication that also breaks down. It's also an electrical device, which can fry. ANY component of a hard disk that breaks down, the whole unit is rendered useless.

Another is what I usually call the "placing all your eggs in one basket" problem. If you buy a 120GB hard disk today, and you throw 120GB of data onto it, you loose 120GB on a single breakdown. However, if you put 120GB of data across three 4GB DVD discs, at least you're breaking the possible total data loss problem up into three parts. The smaller the storage medium, the less data loss you have.

All IT institutions never archive data onto a mechanical device. They're using all sorts of optical or tape medium (DLT, DAT, etc.) Stored in a safe place, they'll last for years and years. You can't say the same with hard disks. IT-wise, hard disks are never thought as being archiving devices.

Now... If you consider your Jdorama data to be non-important, then you can probably toss everything I just said and continue to use hard disk for archiving.

--- groink

hakurey wrote:this is not so off topic, but have ppl considered just archiving to hard disks?

per mb costs with dvd is actually very similar, i think dvd's are slightly cheaper but at least with hd you don't have to split a series across dvd and lose out on those precious MB's.

Anyway I only have 30 DVDR and considering just buying HD's for archiving. I mean I won't leave them connected otherwise they'll wear out and of course DON'T DROP THEM :(
HD shouldn't wear out if you just leave them on the shelf for 10 years rite? Of course you have to decide on a file system and it's much faster to check them.

Is anyone doing this kind of thing or even considering? What are the pros and cons, have I missed out on something?

I think it would be a bit of a hassle to hook up a HD back and forth. But it is an option that way be warranted. Thx hackurey.

groink,

you're either really smart or really anal. :P
lols, but you're ideas are good.

fayenatic wrote:groink, you're either really smart or really anal. :P
lols, but you're ideas are good.

He's in IT profession, so he really knows what he's talking about.

groink thanks for the feedback :)

I always use a RAID system but that's for current protection not archiving.
my drama collection is not that important, my archive time for these probably be 3 years at the most. I like to keep them on hd now cause I have more than I can watch and don't want to waste money on DVD.

Once I've seen em and decide that they're not worth watching second time around then I can safely delete from HD. I guess I need to keep two HD's just incase. ;)

I've only been collection dramas for the last 6 mths. A question for those who'se been collection for at least 3 years or more. Do you ever go back to your old favourites and watch them again?

hakurey wrote:groink thanks for the feedback :)

I've only been collection dramas for the last 6 mths. A question for those who'se been collection for at least 3 years or more. Do you ever go back to your old favourites and watch them again?

Definitely


I watched Love Generation 5 times :google:

Bought myself a Pioneer DVR-106D for 139 euros after readin numerous positive reviews on the burner. One of the major factor that got me interested in the burner was its accurate burn and it accepts any dvd-r and burns without complainin incompatible issues. Why the "minus" dvd? It's cheaper than the "plus" and the minus is widely used and sold. The community uses the format. Burned all my current dramas on the HD, all good. Only one defect burn, stupid Discjuggler, it just stopped burnin. Had to switch to the good old Nero. Burned +22 dvd-r at 1x, well, the dvd-r is 1x (I'm a very patient person when it comes to burnin, I have burned hundreds of cds on a s_l_o_w 4x in the past :hehe: ). Bought a 50 dvd-r package for a reasonable price :) The burner is quiet, when a disc is inserted, it makes a little breeze sound and quiets down. Pioneer burns the + as well.

One thing I learned from burnin dvd: I can't do anything on computer durin the burnin. The comp is totally loaded, the burnin puts my comp on its knee, hehe.

I have no plans to buy empty dvd media from shops. They are heavily overpriced due to the licence fee implemented on the recordin media by the ministry of education!!! "You pay for copying"-system. I'll buy cheap media from a domestic online auction site :mrgreen:

Thanks to the dvd-r and the burner, drownin on my own cds is delayed for the time being :hehe:

*80 GB freed!*

Pemu wrote:Thanks to the dvd-r and the burner, drownin on my own cds is delayed for the time being :hehe:

*80 GB freed!*

Congratulations on your purchase!!!! Yes, the media is somewhat on the expensive side. However, the price per megabyte is still much much cheaper on DVDRs than CDRs, so a $1.00 DVDR to me is much more reasonable than a 50-cents CDR.

I'm ver picky when it comes to the type of media I use... Though many people like using generic brands of media (CompUSA, etc.), I prefer to purchase main-brand like Memorex, Imation, and TDK. That's because I'm very brand-conscious, where I like the idea that a large company stands behind their media, and the media they produce in January will be of the same quality as the media they produce in June.* The best thing to do in finding bargains is to check out web sites like www.dealpc.com and look out for great deals on media and other things.

* = Generic brands tend to switch manufacturers from time-to-time. Verbatim and CompUSA are very famous for doing this sort of thing.

--- groink

Congrats, Pemu! :applaud:

I hope to join your ranks in the near future. The Pioneer is pricey compared to the ones that are usually on sale for about $80USD...

Any pluses or minuses for off-brands as opposed to name brands?

i bought a dvd+/-rw (4x blah blah) for $119.99 canadian from tigerdirect not including tax. it's not branded, but it works fine so far and i like it :)

There are a lot more oem, or generic drives out there now a days...

ntlover000 wrote:There are a lot more oem, or generic drives out there now a days...

But are any of them any good?