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dymmamie wrote:hai minna, few days not here..
welcome to newbies.. and welcome back to others who I don't see for a quite some time here..
there are some topic the best pv, I do LOVE Teppen its makes me feel want to join them jump in the water! besides they all looks like having fun and nice outfits too.

I just watch tegomass pv.. they are so cute ne... I like when tego boiled water his face so adorable, massu chasing tego when he tried to read tego mums letter?
ladysimplistic07 : you are right who can resist massu 'kawaiiness' and sweetness smile??

guys I have something to asked here. I know I should asked this straight away at the beginning I knowing NewS and other JE Jr.. I understand all of them in JE are likely in an academy where they learned to sing, dance others. I know that there is a time they will graduated (I heard takky's graduation). My question here how we know that they will graduate? under what circumstances wherether based on how long they are in JE, how much they debut? how good they performed? or others.. suddenly I just realized if they will graduate based on the time period, then in NewS I think Yamapi, Ryo, Uchi had entered JE long before the other members.. so they will graduate first then what about 8 NewS members?
I don't know how or why I think about this.. may be becoz I feel other group (not under JE label) they seem don't have a problem like rules and regulations, that the end leads to manipulated their fans. I know may be I just make some people confused here but I don't how to write on what I feel here.
maybe becoz of so many rumors here and there makes me feel sick and tired. At the end I just ignore it and try to believe what they say. so I do hope anyone can briefly explained about it? thanks!

Is it worth to see massu in dance drill?
jya ne!

Before You & J (NewS, KT, & K8), it is very very clear that a Johnny's Jr. graduate when they release debut CD.We can see when Takki & Tsubasa released their first CD, they were said to be finally graduated from Jr. (All newspaper/magazine/and the Jr. artists themselves said so) And from Yamapi's message to Toma back in high school, he said he wished they (4Tops) could graduate from Johnny's Jr. together. But then when he released CD w/ NewS instead, people accused him for breaking the promise. From that we can assume NewS (and Yamapi) graduated from Jr. when they release CD. And the year after they released their "official debut CD" in May 2004, all NewS members were disqualified for 2005 Jr. Popularity poll hosted by Myojo magazine. But then after T&T, the definition of "graduate" is blur for the current Jr. especially You & J........NewS are supposed to be graduated already, but still always host Shounen Club. All other debut teams, including Takki, don't organize and plan for the show but merely appear as a guest. And Kanjani 8's case is pretty complicated and special, too........they already released their first CD back in 2004, but there's never a very big debut announcement like KT.....and the members are still qualified for the 2006 Jr. Popularity Poll.....So, after speaking all this whole bunch of stuff, my final conclusion is: I don't know the definite answer! LOL :nut:

Pretty much when a group debuts they are no longer a Jr. and have "graduated" It does not matter how long in JE you've been, like take Toma for example, he's been in JE for as long as Pi has yet he's still considered a Jr.
Kanjani8's debut wasn't really a special case....well I guess the only thing "special" about it was that the single didn't get a lot of promotion, and it was released in the Kansai region only first, but then it was doing so well that it finally sold nationwide a month later.

Now what really get's confusing is the whole senpai-kouhai thing @_@ which took me a while to get ^^; but I finally got it down now :bonk:

tenshi01 wrote:Pretty much when a group debuts they are no longer a Jr. and have "graduated" It does not matter how long in JE you've been, like take Toma for example, he's been in JE for as long as Pi has yet he's still considered a Jr.
Kanjani8's debut wasn't really a special case....well I guess the only thing "special" about it was that the single didn't get a lot of promotion, and it was released in the Kansai region only first, but then it was doing so well that it finally sold nationwide a month later.

Now what really get's confusing is the whole senpai-kouhai thing @_@ which took me a while to get ^^; but I finally got it down now :bonk:

Then how to explain the Myojo Jr. Poll w/ K8's participation but not the little kids in NewS? Just find it weird......@_@

Huh? Why confused about senpai-kouhai? That one is easy to define, really just define by the time an artist enter Johnny's. So Toma IS Tegoshi's senpai even though Tegoshi debut first.

BTW, does anyone has Ryo-chan's Secret Agent Man mp3? This CD was released way back even before NewS and K8 debut.

I don't know about the Myojo thing, they probably had their own reason, but NewS is no longer considered Jrs so that all that matters, lol.

Actually, if Toma were EVER to debut Teshi could be considered Toma's senpai BECAUSE he debuted first. The fact that Teshi has more experience as a debuted artists (w/ releasing singles, doing cons, etc.) he would be considered Toma's senpai in that fahsion. But yes Toma would be Teshi's senpai in JE in general (but not as a debuted artiste)
Example of this is Arashi, since they debuted so early, even though Takki entered JE first he still has to regard Arashi as his senpai.

Haha, reminds of the time Yoko bowed down to Nino at a Arashi concert and Nino hit him like, "what the hell are you doing, stop being a baka" xD Even though Yoko had to regard Nino as his senpai, really...there's isn't much of senpai-kouhai relationship xD

EDIT: Here's Ryotan's Secret Agent Man: http://www.sendspace.com/file/k52irf
I also have the rip of Ryotan singing it on Dream Boys if you want that too

Thanks for the explaination eventhough there is still no answer how and when they will graduate, I'm fine fine with the senpai-kouhai thing as I know they will respect to each other any way.
I really hope and wish that NewS, Kanjani8, Kattun and others they should graduate.. so they no longer under JE control anymore. but then this question come in my head if they graduate who will managed all their activities? there is no doubt that JE has done an excellent job in order to produced a good singer and successfull in Japan. they are still young in the business..
But by looking at SMAP and T&T, I do wish they graduate. I wonder how about Arashi and V6 are they still with JE?

I think they will always be under JE's "control" Arashi's activities are still controlled by JE, like their Asian tour right now was greatly organized by Mary-san, she even went with them to Korea and stuff to promote the tour. So Takki & Tsubasa are STILL part of JE, they are no longer Jrs but they are still part of JE. When you are in JE you're there until you offically quit the business altogether.
Also this might clear some things, when they debut, they are usually signed under a different music label that's not under JE, like Kanjani8 is under the record label Teichiku Records so JE are not the one making their cds. The only one that I know of that under JE music labels are KAT-TUN who are under J-one and Arashi who are under J-Storm.
SMAP, hmm, I don't know much about the history of SMAP, but they seem to be a special case, they don't really participate in a lot of JE events, like countdown or sports day, but yes they are part of JE still, IDK, I don't want to make speculations on them ^^;;

Okay that's all I know, lol....JE is a mysterious mysterious place :hehe:

dymmamie wrote:Thanks for the explaination eventhough there is still no answer how and when they will graduate, I'm fine fine with the senpai-kouhai thing as I know they will respect to each other any way.
I really hope and wish that NewS, Kanjani8, Kattun and others they should graduate.. so they no longer under JE control anymore. but then this question come in my head if they graduate who will managed all their activities? there is no doubt that JE has done an excellent job in order to produced a good singer and successfull in Japan. they are still young in the business..
But by looking at SMAP and T&T, I do wish they graduate. I wonder how about Arashi and V6 are they still with JE?

About graduating and then get out of JE's control, I can give you definite answer on this one. Graduate or not, they'll never get out of JE's control. The only way to get out of their control is quit the company. Yes, diff groups belong to diff music labels, like Tenshi01 said. But they still under Johnny's management. Johnny's job is to promote and contract jobs for the artists, it's their agent. The graduation we are talking about here is just graduation from Jr., not from Johnny's. Even SMAP is still under JE's control. They may be given lots of freedom to do whatever they want, but they are still Johnny's employee. Johnny still their agent, they need to deduct part of the money they earn to Johnny as commission for contracting jobs for them w/ 3rd party.

tenshi01 wrote:EDIT:[/b] Here's Ryotan's Secret Agent Man: http://www.sendspace.com/file/k52irf
I also have the rip of Ryotan singing it on Dream Boys if you want that too

Thank you soo much~~Yes, I want the Dream Boys version, too. Please~~ Actually that's the version I want. Although I like the child version, I like the Dream Boys version even more. His voice is more mature and sexy~~

Yamapifans: Haha, yes more mature and smexy, and not just his voice ^.~ Here you go: http://www.sendspace.com/file/3193uc

Everyone seen Pi on Best Artist yet. ZOMG, I LOVE PI'S HAIR SO MUCH xD I sound so crazy talking about hair all the time xDDD What can I say, I think I developed a weird fetish xD
Anywayz, I really enjoyed all the interaction between all the groups. Like KAT-TUN doing a little part of the choreography of Daite Senorita. And my fave part was when KAT-TUN and Pi were backup dancers for TxT. Ah, totally spazzed over that. I miss their Jr days together ^^;;

EDIT: forgot to mention that Teshi and Masu will be on Domoto Kyoudai on Dec 17!!!
OMG, can't wait to hear all of Teshi's creative answers xDDD OH, and I hope they play Acchi muite hoi again so Teshi can get his dignity back :hehe:

tenshi01 wrote:Yamapifans: Haha, yes more mature and smexy, and not just his voice ^.~ Here you go: http://www.sendspace.com/file/3193uc

Everyone seen Pi on Best Artist yet. ZOMG, I LOVE PI'S HAIR SO MUCH xD I sound so crazy talking about hair all the time xDDD What can I say, I think I developed a weird fetish xD
Anywayz, I really enjoyed all the interaction between all the groups. Like KAT-TUN doing a little part of the choreography of Daite Senorita. And my fave part was when KAT-TUN and Pi were backup dancers for TxT. Ah, totally spazzed over that. I miss their Jr days together ^^;;

Yes, everyone in the CHinese forum all go crazy!! LOL
I am very excited, too. But honestly, I don't really like this hairstyle.....Some ppl said his hair looks like Jin's, and then he was standing among KT, as if a replacement of Jin........well......I like Jin, but not other members and NOT KT, so don't really like ppl say that......besides, it sounds like Jin won't return......don't want that........

Yea, I LOVE PAPA & PI moment, too!! But too bad Tsubasa stood between them! >_< No, don't seperate them! LOL

jess wrote:

Kame?? Eh, that's yamapi what :sweat:

hey mont! I finally finished watching stand up! (i kept having to switch it off halfway when my parents pass by..)

and i'm so glad i decided to continue watching it! It's a much better drama than i had imagined.. THe 4 guys are so loserly funny :hehe:

Just wondering.. what does the shirt worn by the sensei that nino used to crush say in the last episode?? The pink shirt which she showed the guys when they went to consult her.. Because they censored the image in the disc i bought!!

Isn't StandUp just great?! That dorama was a total let down when you watch the first episodes? episode >5 was superb!!!! Eeee... you kept switching it off when your parents came? How old are you 16? Think your parents will be OK with it, -knowing that their lovely daughter cries shit, which is already odd enough-, when they find out your watching a dorama

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with a bunch of boys singing while holding up a pack of condoms which looked like an anti-virgin-boy cult

. ne? Nino's acting was soooo goood, and also was Pi's, well, better than that stupid dragon zakura. If i had it with english subs i would've given it a better mark...

Dunno, mine had the cikguk's t-shirt sencored too... :hehe:
made me curious at that time...

Finally, just finished watchin the Misu Suppu PV...

don't shoot me... but it hink it's horribleeee.......!!!!!!!!!

Oh my goshhhh i just can't stand Tegoshi's expressions and gestures! They are soooooo weird... Well, at least massu had his 'interesting' accent which kept me watching....

and it looks like it was done by some indepoendent director or somethin...

Ai Otsuka's Daisukidayo PV was much 'simpler' bat felt like it had a deeper meaning inside then this pv...

armpit hair show seems like heaven compared to this, it had good angle shoots

Ehhhhh?! I think Tesshi and Massu are adorable in the PV. Well, to each his/her own. :P And please believe it's waaaay better than a lot of PV's out there. *coughnewsnipponcough*

Oh, and if anyone wants it, I don't remember where I got this from, probably here. :P But it's an mp3 rip of Tesshi's You~World is Yours perf. Which I absolutely love. I can never get over how gorgeous that boy's voice is. <3 But anyway. Link: http://www.sendspace.com/file/bcf4il

monta wrote:

Isn't StandUp just great?! That dorama was a total let down when you watch the first episodes? episode >5 was superb!!!! Eeee... you kept switching it off when your parents came? How old are you 16? Think your parents will be OK with it, -knowing that their lovely daughter cries shit, which is already odd enough-, when they find out your watching a dorama

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with a bunch of boys singing while holding up a pack of condoms which looked like an anti-virgin-boy cult

. ne? Nino's acting was soooo goood, and also was Pi's, well, better than that stupid dragon zakura. If i had it with english subs i would've given it a better mark...

Dunno, mine had the cikguk's t-shirt sencored too... :hehe:
made me curious at that time...

hehe thanks to you i watched it! and i definitely didn't regret it :)
Hello, i watched the first episode and switched off cos it was too boring
watched the second episode another time and switched off again cos it was too boring.

but from the fifth episode onwards, i switched off only when my parents pass by because yeahh.. their thinking is still quite conservative. You know the scene where yamapi stood up from the bath? I was watching that and my mum came into the living room!! Super coincidental. Luckily thanks to my quick reflexes i pressed the eject button just in time ^^

yahh.. i'm 16 but well the type of dramas my mum watches is like jewel in the palace?! BTW my mum cried like shit when she watched one litre of tears with me ok :usuck: (though i don't see the connection)

by the way just read in the stand up thread that the "censoring" of the shirt was for some quiz they give to the audience at the end of the show. Hello?! They don't even censor naked pi why should they censor a shirt -.-

dragonzakura? i haven't watched that!! what do you rate it upon 10? The synopsis seems quite interesting but it sounds a little like GTO.

Anyway i'm going to hongkong from tomorrow till next saturday :) So yeah.. won't be coming here anymore till i come back ^^ Maybe i'll see Yamapifans there lol.

monta wrote:Finally, just finished watchin the Misu Suppu PV...

don't shoot me... but it hink it's horribleeee.......!!!!!!!!!

Oh my goshhhh i just can't stand Tegoshi's expressions and gestures! They are soooooo weird... Well, at least massu had his 'interesting' accent which kept me watching....

and it looks like it was done by some indepoendent director or somethin...

Ai Otsuka's Daisukidayo PV was much 'simpler' bat felt like it had a deeper meaning inside then this pv...

armpit hair show seems like heaven compared to this, it had good angle shoots

LOL the pv was quite cute what! tsk monta only knows how to appreciate underarm hair :bonk:

but well... i have to agree that tegoshi's expression and gestures are kind of over exaggerated. WELL, at least can see that he tries hard~ I'm sure he will improve with more practice haha :D

GodsGirl7 wrote::P And please believe it's waaaay better than a lot of PV's out there. *coughnewsnipponcough*

Yeah, and also worse than a lot of PV's out there... :hehe: :beaten:

jess

LOL

hey, i've watched Jewel In the Palace too you know... gosh that was the only K-dorama i didn't regret. That Jang Geum gurl. This is a very touching k-dorama, and even though it had lots of episodes, it didn't feel like it was dragged... and the best part: setting. and that "unara unara... " song at the ending that was sang by this little girl was damn hypnotizing! You should watch it. :hehe: Don't :usuck: Jewel in the Palace, it's heaven compared to Ganbatte Ikimashoi!!! :rofl:

wakakka interesting! so it's actually for a quiz!!!

Dragon Zakura? hmmm... well, my opinion might be abit effected by how i do not like the 'school filled with 'unsuccessful' people (brandals, byotches and bla... bla...) and in the end the students succeed' school dorama theme. You know, like GTO and Gokusen and Gachibaka...

probably a 7/10 for you jess, some parts were funny, and yes Pi sang a song in it, but my personal rate is 6/10...

jess wrote:

LOL the pv was quite cute what! tsk monta only knows how to appreciate underarm hair :bonk:

but well... i have to agree that tegoshi's expression and gestures are kind of over exaggerated. WELL, at least can see that he tries hard~ I'm sure he will improve with more practice haha :D

Or it could be his daily impressions of a barbie-wannabe

monta wrote:

Yeah, and also worse than a lot of PV's out there... :hehe: :beaten:

jess

LOL

hey, i've watched Jewel In the Palace too you know... gosh that was the only K-dorama i didn't regret. That Jang Geum gurl. This is a very touching k-dorama, and even though it had lots of episodes, it didn't feel like it was dragged... and the best part: setting. and that "unara unara... " song at the ending that was sang by this little girl was damn hypnotizing! You should watch it. :hehe: Don't :usuck: Jewel in the Palace, it's heaven compared to Ganbatte Ikimashoi!!! :rofl:

wakakka interesting! so it's actually for a quiz!!!

Dragon Zakura? hmmm... well, my opinion might be abit effected by how i do not like the 'school filled with 'unsuccessful' people (brandals, byotches and bla... bla...) and in the end the students succeed' school dorama theme. You know, like GTO and Gokusen and Gachibaka...

probably a 7/10 for you jess, some parts were funny, and yes Pi sang a song in it, but my personal rate is 6/10...

DOTS MONTZ. i watched jewel in the palace :usuck: :usuck: i enjoyed the drama (in fact got very hooked to i) but the only bad thing about it was no eye candy. :hehe:

i was just trying to tell you the type of drama mum expects me to watch!

:usuck: :usuck: was to :dancing:<--you not jewel in the palace

yeah the "unara unara" song is catchy. My brother still sings it almost everyday :banghead: There's a nice way of remembering the song, if you know chinese but well i suppose you don't so nvm. :victory:

oh cool. the song's "colourful" right? I suppose Pi played one of those "cool bochap" characters again. Darn.. i like the crazy-drunk on soy bean-yamapi more :nut:

monta wrote:

Or it could be his daily impressions of a barbie-wannabe

Muahaha.. this reminds me of this:

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oh yeah.. seen this clip before? Masu tego and your darling kusa dressed up as princesses!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AuqdyBIJ-X0

jess wrote:

DOTS MONTZ. i watched jewel in the palace :usuck: :usuck: i enjoyed the drama (in fact got very hooked to i) but the only bad thing about it was no eye candy. :hehe:

i was just trying to tell you the type of drama mum expects me to watch!

:usuck: :usuck: was to :dancing:<--you not jewel in the palace

yeah the "unara unara" song is catchy. My brother still sings it almost everyday :banghead: There's a nice way of remembering the song, if you know chinese but well i suppose you don't so nvm. :victory:

oh cool. the song's "colourful" right? I suppose Pi played one of those "cool bochap" characters again. Darn.. i like the crazy-drunk on soy bean-yamapi more :nut:

LOL... i thought

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the guy who ended up marrying Jang Geum (gosh their daughter is so cute, and so are the three of them as a family)

looked good without the beard... he was pretty much an eye candy to girls i thought. One things for sure: no eye candies for me...

Yup!!! Yamapi had the word 'cliche' tatooed on his butt in Dragon Zakura. his cool bochap role is never entertaining to me...