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bmwracer wrote:You're evading the question. If Ronstadt was ripping Moore and was pro-Bush, you wouldn't be griping about this at all.

I don't know about the rest of you... I attend music concerts to escape from the rest of the world. I love Linda... I have about eight of her CDs, including her works with Nelson Riddle, and also her two latino-based CDs. However, if she did ANYTHING on stage that goes beyond the scope of the agreement between myself as a ticket purchaser, and Linda as the service provider* (the service being her presentation of music), that's a breach of the agreement. As a result of the breach, I would be entitled to a refund based on the idea that the extraciricular activity was a disruption to the enjoyment process. I wouldn't have taken down posters and throw drinks to get my opinion across, but I definiately would have demanded a refund of the full price of the ticket.

And to be quite fair... If Sakai Noriko pulled this same propaganda crap at her concert, I'd have the same reaction. I hear enough talk about politics on TV, at work, and here at JDorama.com. I don't want to pay $80+ to hear one's opinion on any political matter.

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* one can tell by now that I write service agreements as part of my daily job.

A couple of quick notes.

First; Ronstadt never mentioned Moore or the movie until she came out to do an encore. So strictly speaking, she did just come out and do her show. The audience got what they paid for.

Second; Anyone going to a Ronstadt concert who didn't know her politics must have been living under a rock. After all, she lived with, and campaigned for, former California Gov. Jerry Brown (big time Democrat)for over a decade. And she even campaigned for him during his presidential bid, after they'd seperated.

Third; I don't see anyone complaining about all those cowboy hat wearing, country music bellowing, PATRIOTS!!!! who are making fortunes peppering all of their concerts with chauvanistic jingles about the glory that is America.

Geezer wrote:Ronstadt never mentioned Moore or the movie until she came out to do an encore. So strictly speaking, she did just come out and do her show. The audience got what they paid for.

No!

You believe that the satisfaction of the contract is all that there is to it. No, there's also a thing called "customer satisfaction" that's involved in the Ronstadt case. Just providing the product alone does not complete the contract between the ticket buyer and the establishment. Let me give you an example of this:

Let's say you buy a Quarter Pounder with cheese from McDonald's. On your last bite of the burger, you find a hair wedged between the cheese and the meat, which makes you sick to your stomach. Are you entitled to 100-percent refund of the burger? Under normal customer satisfaction guidelines, the answer is YES. It is true that the customer received 100-percent of the product he ordered. And, it is true that he consumed about 90-percent of the product. However, the last 10-percent of the product is tainted, which ruins the satisfaction factor.

Adapting this analogy to the Rondstadt concert. It is true that the ticket holder received maybe 98-percent of the product (Ronstadt's musical performance). However, that little propaganda stunt she pulled (the last 2-percent) at the very end ruined the enjoyment of the other 98-percent of the product. Is The Aladdin entitled to give a refund to the ticket holder? Under normal customer satisfaction guidelines, the answer would be YES.

There is no difference between a hair in a burger, and Ronstadt's comment about Michael Moore. Both experiences can bother certain people. So I think The Aladdin failed in several ways:

1. The hotel shouldn't have kicked her out of the hotel. They could've taken her off the stage and be done with it, but they went too far.

2. The hotel should have complied with customer satisfaction standards by refunding 100-percent of the purchase price, upon request. AND, what they should have also given the ticket holder something like a free meal voucher, a discount on their room, a free ticket to tomorrow's concert, or something, to give the impression that they're really sorry about what happened, and to give them a second chance to make it up.

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myworkstation had been upgraded into 1GB of memory YATTA!!! :mrgreen:

after 3 weeks worth of holiday, i'm finally back in melbourne...fresher than ever! wahaha! i got the break i needed/wanted and i'm soo glad about it even though it's only 3 weeks.

plus, i bought 12 J-drama titles while i was back home....
it cost me a total of RM206 [US$54?] :sweat: :nut:

Wow!.... A lot more artistes have been added to the feature artistes... :applaud: So exciting...

Mr.ChoyBoi wrote:Wow!.... A lot more artistes have been added to the feature artistes... :applaud: So exciting...

yup! see the aya pic too? :hehe: :hehe:

Where is everyone today?????!!!!

ahochaude wrote:Where is everyone today?????!!!!

Heh. I stay here. But, I is doing work. Is why this motha's so short.

We going eat when elti' come down hea?

ahochaude wrote:Where is everyone today?????!!!!

WORK!!!!! :beaten: :beaten: :beaten: :beaten:

eltinator wrote:WORK!!!!! :beaten: :beaten: :beaten: :beaten:

Yup. It's the end of the week crunch.

bmwracer wrote:
Yup. It's the end of the week crunch.

I just got off! Yay 3day weekend! :D

eltinator wrote:I just got off! Yay 3day weekend! :D

Wha??????

bmwracer wrote:
Wha??????

Dude's gonna call in sick. :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

ahochaude wrote:Where is everyone today?????!!!!

I'm here :)

ahochaude wrote:

Dude's gonna call in sick. :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

jhahaha, naw I don't work fridays that's why so basically I always get 3 day weekends :P :hehe:

i love watching National Geo. and Discovey Channel or any documentary shows 'coz u can find a lot of interesting facts.. :mrgreen:

some facts i wanna share

Emergency Numbers:

USA - 911
Japan - 119 (dunno if it's right coz i heard this number mentioned in the movie "Love Letter")
Philippines - 117

In the Philippines there are a lot of malls who especializes in selling
smuggled, pirated, or even factory defected stuffs.

orig. DVD = 400+ php
pirated DVD = 70 - 80 php

FYI: $1 = 56 php

I'm a regular customer in here :mrgreen:
coz they sell those smuggled dvds from Korea/china
these are the sources of my asian movies

these stores ALMOST has it all from
ps2, xbox, gamecube cds
smuggeled stuffs (cellphone, dvds, perfume, shoes, drugs :beaten: :mrgreen: )

So much for the gov't campaign against piracy ne!!!

just wanna say:

YATTA!!! :applaud: Angelo dela Cruz a filipino hostage in Iraq was free at last
damn those terrorist :mad:

another thing:

F :beaten: CK Jay Lenno for saying filipinos r cowards for pulling off our troops from Iraq just to save Angelo.

eltinator wrote:


yup! see the aya pic too? :hehe: :hehe:

OF COURSE!!.... First thing I see when I come back from MIA is Aya chan as a feature artiste... I was like w00 h00!!.... :applaud: :hehe:

hey i haven't seen aya as a featured artist