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17 Oct 2006, 07:22 #16361
a well written piece re: Iraq and recent developments involving James Baker

Politics & Policies: And now James Baker

By CLAUDE SALHANI
UPI International Editor
WASHINGTON, Oct. 16 (UPI) -- Maybe now that President George W. Bush is hearing it from his father's former secretary of state, James A. Baker III, will he and his secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, give serious consideration to engaging countries they have so far ignored?

Numerous experts, from politicians to pundits, to former diplomats, including past secretaries of state, have criticized the Bush administration for its tough "cowboy attitude" adopted since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon. It is a policy based on refusing to talk to any regime considered unfriendly, and which bore no fruit.

Much of the rhetoric which came out of the White House in the days following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, such as "You're either with us or you're against us," "Cut 'em off at the pass," and the piece de resistance from the president when speaking of the terrorists: "Bring 'em on," did little for the United States' image. They made great sound bites for television, but, like the policy they represented, were shallow and failed to reassure friends and foes. They truly did little to explain or outline a comprehensive U.S. foreign policy.

Indeed, in the days and weeks that followed Bush's dare, the insurgency in Iraq seemed to take the president at his word. The number of attacks against American and coalition forces grew exponentially. Roadside bombs, or IEDs -- improvised explosive devises -- became more frequent and more brazen.

Bush's policy of talking to friends but shunning foes largely resulted in further alienating much of the Middle East and the Islamic world, whose people saw in the Bush policy far more arrogance than diplomatic strategy. The result, over little time, was that the very people Bush wanted to bring democracy to became the ones who distrusted the United States the most. And soon, this distrust turned to dislike, which turned to animosity and within months of the occupation, turned to hate.

This hate was then channeled into outright violence against the U.S. military presence in Iraq.

"I believe in talking to your enemies," said the influential Baker. The former member of the Bush 41 team is the Republican co-chairman of a bipartisan panel reassessing Iraq strategy for President Bush 43.

Going counter to what has been this administration's Middle East policy to date, Baker said Sunday that he would suggest that the White House enter into direct talks with countries it had so far kept at arm's length, including Iran and Syria.

Joshua Landis writes in his highly informative blog, joshualandis.com/blog, that "Baker said he made 15 trips to Damascus to negotiate with then president Hafez al-Assad to get involved in Middle East peacemaking."

Indeed, Baker's efforts bore fruit. As Syria became involved in dialoging with the United States, violence in the Middle East diminished. The same can be said of another former secretary of state whom Bush is also calling on these days for advice: Henry Kissinger. While Kissinger's advice may differ from that of Baker, it is worth recalling that Kissinger was the one who invented shuttle diplomacy, traveling 36 times to Damascus in less than one month as he tried to bring about a peace deal between the Syrians and Israel during the closing days of the October 1973 war.

But since the U.S. invasion of Iraq, the Bush White House has sidelined two of the most influential stakeholders in the region -- Syria and Iran. Both countries can play an important role in helping bring about stability in the region. But for that to occur, they must be made part of the solution; otherwise, they become the problem.

Both Syria and Iran command important proxy forces in the region and can -- all the while appearing squeaky clean -- instigate all sorts of hassles for the United States and its allies. Iran, for example, is in a position of power in Iraq and Lebanon.

In Iraq, the Islamic republic commands the loyalty of a number of local militias, not least of which is Moqtada al-Sadr's al-Mehdi Army, one of the largest, best armed and ready to cause trouble for U.S. forces in Iraq. The same scenario holds true in Lebanon, where Iran's ally, Hezbollah, a Shiite militia which is armed and partially financed by Iran, is in a position of strength and capable of unleashing tens of thousands of rockets on Israel. During its 34-day war with Israel this summer, Hezbollah fired hundreds of rockets at northern Israel, paralyzing large parts of the country's economy, and forcing the Port of Haifa to close to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars of lost revenue.

And that's just in Iran. Think what Syria can do, too. Baker, always an astute diplomat, sees the benefits of direct talks. As Madeline Albright, secretary of state under President Bill Clinton, also said: "You don't make peace with your friends, you make peace with your enemies."
17 Oct 2006, 12:04 #16362
Tu_triky wrote:

so when are you going to go to japan and hook us up with your aunt so we can chill with the richy richy.


i haven't talked to her in AGES specially since the whole husband debacle here.. hehehehe.. we're still planning to visit though.. :)
17 Oct 2006, 12:07 #16363
oh man, I was accidently deleted all of my PVs.. that really made me crazy.. :banghead:
17 Oct 2006, 12:09 #16364
k-role wrote:oh man, I was accidently deleted all of my PVs.. that really made me crazy.. :banghead:


back up back up....and back up..

blank dvd's, external/internal hd.....essential. :bonk:
17 Oct 2006, 12:13 #16365
k-role wrote:oh man, I was accidently deleted all of my PVs.. that really made me crazy.. :banghead:


You've gotta be kidding right? I'd go nuts if i lost my collection... Hope ya feel better since it's the holiday season
17 Oct 2006, 12:29 #16366
qilver wrote:

back up back up....and back up..

blank dvd's, external/internal hd.....essential. :bonk:


yeah, I was too late.. but not this time. I actually have two folders that contained all of my PVs, and luckily just one of it was accidently deleted.
17 Oct 2006, 13:15 #16367
k-role wrote:oh man, I was accidently deleted all of my PVs.. that really made me crazy.. :banghead:


It's suck ... lol :doh:
17 Oct 2006, 13:16 #16368
k-role wrote:

yeah, I was too late.. but not this time. I actually have two folders that contained all of my PVs, and luckily just one of it was accidently deleted.


can't imagine being w/out my MM stuff....
i back it up often.... :bonk:
17 Oct 2006, 13:18 #16369
Lucky for you.

My comp's HD died a few months ago. Luckily none of my drama was on it, but I lost years of photos, emails etc :(

I have 4x stacks of 50 CD's with stuff backed up. Of couse not all the CD's are full, but that's potentially 13TB of stuff!
17 Oct 2006, 13:29 #16370
qilver wrote:

can't imagine being w/out my MM stuff....
i back it up often.... :bonk:


i've just downloaded back some of it.. yeah, you better back it up often.. hehe :mrgreen:
17 Oct 2006, 13:30 #16371
Anime Dad wrote:Lucky for you.

My comp's HD died a few months ago. Luckily none of my drama was on it, but I lost years of photos, emails etc :(

I have 4x stacks of 50 CD's with stuff backed up. Of couse not all the CD's are full, but that's potentially 13TB of stuff!


wow, that's huge..
17 Oct 2006, 13:59 #16372
Anime Dad wrote:Lucky for you.

My comp's HD died a few months ago. Luckily none of my drama was on it, but I lost years of photos, emails etc :(

I have 4x stacks of 50 CD's with stuff backed up. Of couse not all the CD's are full, but that's potentially 13TB of stuff!


dang...that is a lot!

not sure if i have even half that...but got a few spindles... :bonk:
17 Oct 2006, 14:10 #16373
I now have 4 DVD wallets with an average of 150 DVD capacity almost full with mostly doramas and asadoras and Japanese Idol music videos and concerts.
Of course one asadora takes a lot of room since I must maintain the original ripped quality from TV. So Tenka for instance took 40 DVDs since I maintain 2 copies of each DVD. Or 20 DVDs for the 156 15 minute segments. :victory:
17 Oct 2006, 14:12 #16374
WOW! Makes my 13TB look insignificant.
17 Oct 2006, 14:18 #16375
Anime Dad wrote:WOW! Makes my 13TB look insignificant.



All I can say is Hooray for DVD/CD wallets. At first I kept them in jewel boxes until I could never find anything with jewel boxes on every table and shelf. Now I'm organized. Have tabbed the DVDs names in the wallets and stored an index in a data base file on my computer.
17 Oct 2006, 14:54 #16376
ralphm1999 wrote:


All I can say is Hooray for DVD/CD wallets. At first I kept them in jewel boxes until I could never find anything with jewel boxes on every table and shelf. Now I'm organized. Have tabbed the DVDs names in the wallets and stored an index in a data base file on my computer.


i think that is a great idea, and good for organization and saving space. :applaud:
17 Oct 2006, 16:26 #16377
Just saw this news. I was a little late to know this but I guess it is better late than never. :bonk: :hehe: Damn, those people must have watched some adult cosplay videos from Japan.

Disney says "non" to Mouse orgy
Mon Oct 16, 7:08 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Walt Disney Co. on Thursday said it took "appropriate action" against employees at its Paris theme park who were caught simulating sex while dressed as Disney characters in a digital video that has received wide attention on the Internet.

Disney would not say whether it had dismissed any of the costumed employees featured in the grainy video, which appears to have been shot with a hidden camera at a backstage dressing room at Disneyland Resort Paris.

"The behavior shown on the video is unacceptable and inexcusable," Disney said in a statement.

"The video was taken in the backstage area not accessible to guests. Appropriate action has been taken to deal with the cast members involved."

The video shows Minnie Mouse struggling to free herself as she is grabbed from behind by Goofy and then a giant snowman.

Later, Mickey Mouse simulates sex with the snowman and Goofy does the same with either Chip or Dale, the chipmunks, as laughter is heard on the tape.

The tape is described on the Internet as the "Mouse Orgy."
17 Oct 2006, 23:48 #16379
Saito_Hajime wrote:Just saw this news. I was a little late to know this but I guess it is better late than never. :bonk: :hehe: Damn, those people must have watched some adult cosplay videos from Japan.

Disney says "non" to Mouse orgy
Mon Oct 16, 7:08 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Walt Disney Co. on Thursday said it took "appropriate action" against employees at its Paris theme park who were caught simulating sex while dressed as Disney characters in a digital video that has received wide attention on the Internet.

Disney would not say whether it had dismissed any of the costumed employees featured in the grainy video, which appears to have been shot with a hidden camera at a backstage dressing room at Disneyland Resort Paris.

"The behavior shown on the video is unacceptable and inexcusable," Disney said in a statement.

"The video was taken in the backstage area not accessible to guests. Appropriate action has been taken to deal with the cast members involved."

The video shows Minnie Mouse struggling to free herself as she is grabbed from behind by Goofy and then a giant snowman.

Later, Mickey Mouse simulates sex with the snowman and Goofy does the same with either Chip or Dale, the chipmunks, as laughter is heard on the tape.

The tape is described on the Internet as the "Mouse Orgy."


JUST SAY NO TO FURRIES!
18 Oct 2006, 00:41 #16380
qilver wrote:
back up back up....and back up..

blank dvd's, external/internal hd.....essential. :bonk:

:lol: Cool, someone knows my mantra. I should make a cult out of it.

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