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Shindou wrote:

in any case, some major event (whether it be a war, environment, social collapse) will probably occur in the next 20-30 years and that's when governments will wake up to the fact, at which point it'll be too late anyways. :sweat:

i tend to agree with you in that reactionary thinking is usually prompted by catastrophe and NOT mediated by fear of it.

Enna wrote:^^ Well guys sorry to disagree with you all, but I do believe that peace in possible. The world as we see it is created by every individual on this planet. Or you and your environment are one. If all we do is spew negativity, how is the world going to become more positive? It has to begin with every thought, word and deed that we produce on an individual level. No not just positive thinking, but a real deep commitment to peace on every level in our hearts. This is not just Pollyana thinking. It all boils down to intention and action. Errr can you tell that I have been a Buddhist for more than twenty years now? ;) :mrgreen:

But Enna, don't you think everyone is too different to actually hold ONE definition of peace? I dunno... having some family in South Asia, and being married to a man from there, our definitions of peace vary. It's all according to background, experiences, and conditions one has grown up with. Just like the definition of "normal" I think it's important to realize that not everyone thinks the same. For example, our Human Rights, which are based on Morality, differ from those of other countries. It is all dependant. So unless we have a concensus on what peace is, I don't see this happening.

However, I do agree that it is possible. I'm not suggesting that it isn't. But I am saying that although it IS possible, it will be verra hard to reach that goal.

P.S. Nah we are not arguing at all. Wynter be careful with that stapler, girl.

I'm trying, but the bugger is out to get me. I know it. >>shifty eyes<<

I like the fact that we can talk about this even though it may be considered provactive and highly debatable DESPITE the fact that it's a serious topic not the usual fluff we engage in on this website...which is fine...but it's nice to exercise the brain in a CIVIL discourse.

Tu_triky wrote:I like the fact that we can talk about this even though it may be considered provactive and highly debatable DESPITE the fact that it's a serious topic not the usual fluff we engage in on this website...which is fine...but it's nice to exercise the brain in a CIVIL discourse.

I agree. >>high five<<

And I truly believe it's IMPORTANT to talk about. I mean, we go through this every day in my Civics class. Sometimes controversy is a GOOD thing. Of course, the participants of such a conversation should be mature enough not to be offended, because then otherwise it really does become a nasty arguement and that's just no fun.

Enna wrote:^^ Well guys sorry to disagree with you all, but I do believe that peace in possible. The world as we see it is created by every individual on this planet. Or you and your environment are one. If all we do is spew negativity, how is the world going to become more positive? It has to begin with every thought, word and deed that we produce on an individual level. No not just positive thinking, but a real deep commitment to peace on every level in our hearts. This is not just Pollyana thinking. It all boils down to intention and action. Errr can you tell that I have been a Buddhist for more than twenty years now? ;) :mrgreen:

P.S. Nah we are not arguing at all. Wynter be careful with that stapler, girl.

I guess I'm not too much of an optimist but I wouldn't classify myself as a pessimist either, more of a realist than anything. If there are still leaders like Kim or Bush who appear to be so thick-headed that they don't believe in anything/anyone aside from their own 'vision' who are in positions as powerful as theirs, I'm somewhat skeptical as to how many positive converts we could get in time to 'save the world'. Certainly there are plenty of people who make a difference and I don't want to diminish their work but I don't think it is realistic that every single person on this planet will come to the same conclusions. :shakehead: I mean, if it took a week for the United Nations to just come up with a resolution against North Korea's missile tests, any action that is produced after the bottomdoes fall out of the box will probably be too little too late

Wynter wrote:

I agree. >>high five<<

thank you.

And I truly believe it's IMPORTANT to talk about. I mean, we go through this every day in my Civics class. Sometimes controversy is a GOOD thing. Of course, the participants of such a conversation should be mature enough not to be offended, because then otherwise it really does become a nasty arguement and that's just no fun.

agreed unless you hear a plurality of opinions how is one going to learn?

ppl want to get offended over every dayem thing now...it's f$#$in' retarded.

what? is there no middle ground b/n kissing each other's asses and hating one another?

my two teaspoons of curry.

Tu_triky wrote:

agreed unless you hear a plurality of opinions how is one going to learn?

ppl want to get offended over every dayem thing now...it's f$#$in' retarded.

what? is there no middle ground b/n kissing each other's asses and hating one another?

my two teaspoons of curry.

Amen. Ignorance is a terrible disease.

Wynter wrote:But Enna, don't you think everyone is too different to actually hold ONE definition of peace? I dunno... having some family in South Asia, and being married to a man from there, our definitions of peace vary. It's all according to background, experiences, and conditions one has grown up with. Just like the definition of "normal" I think it's important to realize that not everyone thinks the same. For example, our Human Rights, which are based on Morality, differ from those of other countries. It is all dependant. So unless we have a concensus on what peace is, I don't see this happening.

However, I do agree that it is possible. I'm not suggesting that it isn't. But I am saying that although it IS possible, it will be verra hard to reach that goal.

I am not talking about the "specifics" of each nation's or culture's definition of peace, but peace as a whole. As in every living being has the right to a treatment of dignity and respect. We all have used our words, thoughts and/or actions everyday in a way that demeans others. Peace has to begin at the most minute level. That is what I am talking about. Each person has to take full responsibility for that change. It really is quite simple.

Tu_triky wrote:I like the fact that we can talk about this even though it may be considered provactive and highly debatable DESPITE the fact that it's a serious topic not the usual fluff we engage in on this website...which is fine...but it's nice to exercise the brain in a CIVIL discourse.

Good discussion Tu!

Wynter wrote:

Amen. Ignorance is a terrible disease.

it is...and so is having yummy food...it's a disease of desire ^_^

Sorry Shindou. I missed your post on the previous page when I posted mine above. Sometimes thinking of the whole of humanity and peace seems like such an impossible task, so that is why I know without any shadow of a doubt that when I changed as an individual human being to a more peaceful mind and heart, then my environment did also. It has a ripple effect that no one can see with their eyes, but it definitely can be felt. :)

Enna wrote:

Good discussion Tu!

it's only a good discussion because ppl like you are part of it...and i don't say that patronizingly....we don't have to see eye to eye on everthing but i know you, Wynter, Shindou are mature enough to elucidate your thoughts in a manner that lends itself well to an exchange of ideas....


i do credit you for what you say...if you don't aspire for peace...then you'll never acheive it.

btw, i saw Daniel Vosovic in a Secret Deodorant commercial! I was surprised.

Enna wrote:Sorry Shindou. I missed your post on the previous page when I posted mine above. Sometimes thinking of the whole of humanity and peace seems like such an impossible task, so that is why I know without any shadow of a doubt that when I changed as an individual human being to a more peaceful mind and heart, then my environment did also. It has a ripple effect that no one can see with their eyes, but it definitely can be felt. :)

No problem, my quote-buddy :woot: Its inspiring to have optimists like you who can see the light at the end of the tunnel and spread the hope around :mrgreen:

Shindou wrote:

No problem, my quote-buddy :woot: Its inspiring to have optimists like you who can see the light at the end of the tunnel and spread the hope around :mrgreen:

Totally.

Quote buddy. lol >>snickers<<

Tu_triky wrote:

it's only a good discussion because ppl like you are part of it...and i don't say that patronizingly....we don't have to see eye to eye on everthing but i know you, Wynter, Shindou are mature enough to elucidate your thoughts in a manner that lends itself well to an exchange of ideas....


i do credit you for what you say...if you don't aspire for peace...then you'll never acheive it.

btw, i saw Daniel Vosovic in a Secret Deodorant commercial! I was surprised.

Why Thanks Tu! :mrgreen:

btw, I saw Michael Kors on QVC.com with his accessory line.

Shindou wrote:No problem, my quote-buddy Its inspiring to have optimists like you who can see the light at the end of the tunnel and spread the hope around

Wynter wrote:Totally.

Quote buddy. lol >>snickers<<

Hi back at you Shindou, :say_hi: I do love your quotes! It isn't just optimism, it is a belief in something within each one of us that can bring about that change. :mrgreen:

@Wynter: Thanks! :mrgreen: I wish more ppl would post some positive quotes in the quote thread.

Enna wrote:

Why Thanks Tu!

btw, I saw Michael Kors on QVC.com with his accessory line.

That guy...he has so much wealth....com'on Michael give some of it to the kids ^_^

Wynter wrote:

The effects of global warming will get at us first, so we won't even have the opportunity to destroy ourselves.

Hmmm. Maybe a giant sunspot will just turn us into a cinder. We are so absorbed in our earthly problems we seldom become aware of dangers that lurk in the unknown universe. How about a 10 mile long comet?
Just a little contribution to light up your day. :twisted:

ralphm1999 wrote:
How about a 10 mile long comet?
Just a little contribution to light up your day. :twisted:

You mean the one that is going to hit us in 25 years? The one that, if we don't do anything about in the next 10, it will be too late to do anything after?

Wynter wrote:

You mean the one that is going to hit us in 25 years? The one that, if we don't do anything about in the next 10, it will be too late to do anything after?

That should be a wake-up call.... to develope the technology to knock it of course...and be ready for all the ones we don't know about. :doh:

Enna wrote:btw, I saw Michael Kors on QVC.com with his accessory line.

You know, I was in the Navy with a guys named Michael Kors, something tells me it ain't the same guy [/list:u]

gaijin mark wrote:You know, I was in the Navy with a guys named Michael Kors, something tells me it ain't the same guy [/list:u]

You were in the navy?! Wow, what was that experience like?