General Music Discussion (Non-Japanese)

Started by blender1184 · 15 Dec 2003 · 15,640 replies

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28 Mar 2008, 13:32 #15521
Merging now.

Discussion of Japanese-themed music or music from J-pop stars should be done in the J-music thread located in the J-Ent forum from now on: http://jdorama.com/viewtopic.6812.htm
29 Mar 2008, 13:23 #15522
phlargo wrote:


Repeating Melodic Fragments


This is exactly what movie composers do. They want to create themes which are evocative of a certain behavior or character or situation. Everyone can think of the music that signifies that Darth Vader is coming...



Or when Tristan or Isolde or Brunhilde or Siegfried are coming...

Leitmotif, anyone?
29 Mar 2008, 13:28 #15523
runpup wrote:

Or when Tristan or Isolde or Brunhilde or Siegfried are coming...

Contemporary?

Leitmotif, anyone?
29 Mar 2008, 13:53 #15524
Man, I rename this thread and it sinks like a boat anchor. :sweat:

I guess no one wants to TALK about music, just post the stuff their listening to and be done with it. :shakehead:
29 Mar 2008, 15:05 #15525
bmwracer wrote:Man, I rename this thread and it sinks like a boat anchor. :sweat:

I guess no one wants to TALK about music, just post the stuff their listening to and be done with it. :shakehead:


I'm guilty of doing that. Well, discussing music is sort of hard for me, considering I usually just listen to music. I wouldn't know to begin quite honestly. I could tell you what I listen to, but it'd be hard to explain why I like or don't like a particular piece of music. I can't read a music score to save my life, so analyzing structure and all that good stuff is out of question. As long as it sounds good to my ears I suppose :)
30 Mar 2008, 01:14 #15526
deseipher wrote:I'm guilty of doing that.

We all are... :sweat:

If you look at the first bunch of pages, it was more of a discussion, then it digressed into a long, long, long playlist. :beaten:
30 Mar 2008, 10:40 #15527
bmwracer wrote:
We all are... :sweat:

If you look at the first bunch of pages, it was more of a discussion, then it digressed into a long, long, long playlist. :beaten:


I usually wrote a little comment whenever I posted what I was listening to because it got boring to see what people were listening to without any info on the artist or song.
30 Mar 2008, 12:14 #15528
cori wrote:I usually wrote a little comment whenever I posted what I was listening to because it got boring to see what people were listening to without any info on the artist or song.

I don't know how it got that way, but hopefully that's been reversed. :fingerscrossed:
30 Mar 2008, 16:51 #15529
how come leona lewis cracked the u.s. charts? what's clicked with the american public?
2 Apr 2008, 12:18 #15530
If there are any B-52 fans out there, they'll be live on KCRW (So Cal 89.9FM)tomorrow on Morning Becomes Eclectic during the 11am hour.
They stream audio and video and they'll have the podcasts available thru iTunes and the website (kcrw.com) afterwards.
2 Apr 2008, 18:40 #15531
:ashamed: i'm in the mainstream. whatever i think is good, i'd listen, whoever the singer is. latest addiction would be Timbaland and Mariah Carey and Madonna's new song.

a couple a days i heard someone singing a song from the Police, pretty awsome song. i think it's the one that was covered by P-Diddy
3 Apr 2008, 13:51 #15532
As fans of asian media, we frequently hear music performed on instruments we in the west are not familiar with...

One instrument I hear quite a lot is the erhu, sometimes known in the West as the "Chinese violin"...for the most part, it has a high pitched sound, sometimes even sounding like a woman singing...

I've become quite fond of this instrument of late, and thought I'd let others get a sample...

This piece has the erhu carrying the melody in a very popular song by Coldplay...
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ozxcvp

If you listened to the first download, you'll have no trouble recognizing the erhu in the opening of this classic anime...
http://www.sendspace.com/file/la9vpd

Finally, while the prior two pieces are excellent, this is a stupendous performance by a virtuoso erhu player...
http://www.sendspace.com/file/66vxaz

I have two close friends who are professional musicians...one is a violinist with the Houston Grand Opera and the Houston Ballet...the other is a violist with the same orchestras...both of them, after hearing the above music, were amazed by the subtlety achieved by an instrument that's relatively crude compared to the ones they play...

Anyway, I love the erhu and hope you enjoy hearing it as well...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhu
13 Apr 2008, 14:07 #15533
Ah, well...business as usual...

Tsukushi...Hana Yori Dango OST...

I'm not a huge fan of HYD, but this song is strikingly beautiful...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/kqtbyx

And the two variations of this theme on the OST, Cloudy Noon and Blue Mind, just reinforce the wonder of this piece...
18 Apr 2008, 23:36 #15534
Sondre Lerche, pre-Dan In Real Life OST (although the duet with Regina Spektor in there was cute).

There were songs from the early albums that grew on me (Modern Nature, Dead Passengers), and then was able to find the Duper Sessions online.

Bought the Phantom Punch album, though, and after that all the songs in there just naturally stuck in my head.
23 Apr 2008, 04:24 #15535
From Yahoo! Entertainment:

The Ten Most Annoying Singers
Posted Mon Apr 21 4:31pm PDT
by Rob O'Connor in List Of The Day

It's stunning to learn that others don't share our tastes. Then again, how did an entire generation embrace faux wood paneling, shag carpets and putting thick plastic on their furniture? Well, someone thought it was a great idea!

Hey, I like Bob Dylan's voice and kept him off this list because I could! Instead, I found the ten singers most likely to make you drive off the road.

Now that's a terrible fate. Not only are you stranded in some ditch, but you're stuck listening to one of these ten singers, who it would seem are singing that way just to mock you. Oh, the injustice.

10) Celine Dion: I know there are millions of people who would beg to disagree, but let's get real, people. She sings 15 notes where one would suffice and turns every song into an anthem for self-empowerment. It's like getting an hour of Oprah condensed into four minutes. She sings. It's time to start the lawnmower.

9) John Mayer: Young people are impressionable. I'm not sure where John Mayer learned his vocal craft. I hesitate to call it singing. It's more like whimpering. And for some reason, this has become a trend not stopping anytime soon. As you'll sadly learn as we go further down this list.

8) Conor Oberst: As the wunderkind who leads Bright Eyes, Conor Oberst was given a certain amount of leeway since he was a young teen when he started out and his precious singing--so sensitive and intimate you could hear the post-nasal drip--was mistaken as precocious. Well, he's in his 20s now and he still sounds like he's swimming back to the womb for protection from this hard, harsh world. Come on buddy, stand up straight and stop trying to imitate the Cure's Robert Smith. He got there first. And even he must know he sounds a little silly.

7) Lily Allen: Contrary to this column, I want to like fresh, young talent. I want to hear singers bring true commitment to their material. The first time I heard Lily Allen I thought it was quaint. Then it seemed every young female singer was determined to sing just like her, as if they're running out of air in their lungs and have to get back to the respirator before the next verse begins. Sure, she's bouncy and spunky. But if I might quote what Lou Grant once told Mary Tyler Moore: I HATE SPUNK.

6) Devendra Banhart / Tiny Tim: I'm not convinced they're not the same person. Tiny Tim was a novelty item singing with that stupid ukulele something about tiptoeing through the tulips. Anyone with any half sense would know it was novelty item that shouldn't be used as the basis for an entire recording career. And for thirty years, it wasn't, until freaky-folk dude Devendra Banhart showed up and started warbling in that unlistenable, untrained vibrato the kind of nonsensical lyrics that didn't sound all that great back when people were taking the kinds of drugs you're supposed to be on in order to enjoy it.

5) James Blunt: All this talk in the media about whether or not waterboarding is torture is moot. Forcing anyone to listen to "Beautiful" on repeat constitutes torture. You want my darkest, deepest secrets? This guy's quivering voice gets you my social security number, my mother's maiden name, my personal PIN and any random government secrets I'm currently harboring.

4) Frankie Valli: Frankie Valli was a hero to some back in his day. I grant you this. He was consistent! He consistently sang in a voice designed to send dogs running for cover and perfect for breaking glass. "Rag Doll, " "Sherry," "Dawn," "Big Girls Don't Cry," the list is enormous. He very well could be tried as a war criminal. Who would object? Seriously? Who?

3) Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins): Yes, despite all his rage he's still just a rat in a cage. Unfortunately, that cage came with a microphone for him to transmit his Smashing Pumpkins hits to a helpless, hapless world at large. While Billy could orchestrate grand walls of guitar and write albums of endless tuneage, he insisted on singing it himself. Except this is not singing in any conventional sense, but rather the sound of a petulant, whiny child. This is what happens when parents don't tell their kids to shut up often enough. Children need to know you don't like them.

2) Scott Stapp (Creed): We could probably start laying the blame on Bono, Eddie Vedder, Jim Morrison and that guy from Blood, Sweat and Tears, but in the end it's Scott Stapp who epitomizes that macho bellow that sounds like a man who's gone overboard at the All-You-Can-Eat Buffet and has just received spiritual orders to let everyone know they're going to hell if they don't save themselves somehow. His spiritual torment becomes your problem. Thanks, pal.

1) Michael Bolton: OK, this was easy. C'mon, you knew Mr. Bolton would top the list. Who else can take a love song and turn it into a hernia? When a man loves a woman he doesn't do so by screaming in her ear--so why should it be acceptable for a man to sing a sensitive love song as if he's directing traffic for the hearing impaired? R&B classics deserve their place in musical history and should be protected from this man's desecration of all that is holy. It's only right. Let's make it a law.
23 Apr 2008, 05:48 #15536
bmwracer wrote:From Yahoo! Entertainment:

The Ten Most Annoying Singers


eh.... Miley Cyrus isn't up there??? i was kinda betting she'd be on no.1
23 Apr 2008, 07:32 #15537
monta wrote:eh.... Miley Cyrus isn't up there??? i was kinda betting she'd be on no.1

If she keeps it up for several more years, maybe she'll bump one of the ten out... :beaten:
23 Apr 2008, 15:35 #15538
bmwracer wrote:
If she keeps it up for several more years, maybe she'll bump one of the ten out... :beaten:


uh huh. and for the time being. it's for annoying singer, but at least they can sing, so of course she's not in there.

i mean, she's not that young, she's not that cute, and she's not even good at whatever she does. and in three years we'll probably see a picture of her smoking weed and sex tapes of her with A LOT of different guys

gawd i hate her :beaten: .

anyway, currently listening to Mariah Carey's E=MC2
23 Apr 2008, 17:20 #15539
bmwracer wrote:
8) Conor Oberst: As the wunderkind who leads Bright Eyes, Conor Oberst was given a certain amount of leeway since he was a young teen when he started out and his precious singing--so sensitive and intimate you could hear the post-nasal drip--was mistaken as precocious. Well, he's in his 20s now and he still sounds like he's swimming back to the womb for protection from this hard, harsh world. Come on buddy, stand up straight and stop trying to imitate the Cure's Robert Smith. He got there first. And even he must know he sounds a little silly.


Celine Dion should be number 2.
:rofl: Conor Oberst. My sister met him years ago when Bright Eyes were openers to the then popular French band Tahiti 80 (who were incidentally huuuuuuge in Japan).
Herefs what happened: My sister (fairly good-looking) and her (average, slightly overweight) friend were standing next to Conor Oberst and the not-so-pretty friend complemented him on his band and his music. He ignored the poor girl, smiled at my sister and thanked her for the compliment, offering her a drink. My sister just went like: I didn't say a thing, bye!
23 Apr 2008, 21:44 #15540
EstherM wrote:Celine Dion should be number 2.

Yeah, I'm surprised she's not higher up on the list... Guess that says something about the people above her... :beaten:

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