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1 Jun 2007, 16:15 #1681
"nani mo kangaetenai"
what's "kangaeteru" from that sentence means?
1 Jun 2007, 16:35 #1682
suika_suki wrote:"nani mo kangaetenai"
what's "kangaeteru" from that sentence means?


In my point of view (since i'm also in learning process), , kangaeteru = to think.

Nani mo kangaeteru 's translation maybe = Thinking of nothing...

:headscratch:
1 Jun 2007, 17:55 #1683
suika_suki wrote:"nani mo kangaetenai"
what's "kangaeteru" from that sentence means?


kangaetenai = kangae( verb ) + te( particle ) + nai( adjective )
End-form of kangae is kangaeru.
Kangaeru is to think/plan.

kangaeteiru = kangae( verb ) + te( particle ) + iru( subsidiary verb ).
teiru = te + iru
teru in kangaeteru = abbreviation of teiru.
When teiru/teru after the verb expressed the movement of the subject, it means the movement is in process now.
Other case is similar to ( past ) perfect form in English.
In kangaeru case, both are possible.
I guess about nai, you know enough....

Then kangaeteru is not in gnani mo kangaetenaih
Negative style of kangaeteru is kangaeteinai.
But speaker wants to accent gnaih strongly, gih in ginaih is sometimes lost.
2 Jun 2007, 05:40 #1684
sumimasen minna,

i'm learning bout japanese rite now.
i got confused with some words. can anyone explain the usage/meaning of these words:


-no (example: watashi no koibito)
-ni (example: anata ni)
-wa (example: watashi wa)
-wo (example: hoshi wo mezashite)
-ga (example: manga ga suki desu)
-yo (example: ganbarre yo)
-to
-de


from my example, i knew the usage/meaning. is there any other usage/meaning?
and is there any other words that have same meaning?


i just started learn Japanese.. :sweat: gome ne.
2 Jun 2007, 14:30 · edited #1685
Aisya_chan, all those words you listed are what they call "particles" and they are very important when speaking or listening to someone speak Japanese. They are also very difficult to master. It's late tonite, so I will just explain the first you listed, ‚Ì, "no"[/list:u] "No" basically turns a noun into a posessive. For example: Watashi = I, Watashi no = My, "Watashi no kuruma" - "My car" [/list:u] It can also mean "in' - "Boku wa nihongo no hon ga yome masu" - "I can read a book written in Japanese" [/list:u] It can also mean "of" - "nami no oto" - "the sound of waves" [/list:u] I'm just scratching the surface here, what I would recommend is finding a book about Japanese particles and going from there. Ganbarre yo!!!
2 Jun 2007, 17:43 #1686
aisya_chan wrote:sumimasen minna,

i'm learning bout japanese rite now.
i got confused with some words. can anyone explain the usage/meaning of these words:


-no (example: watashi no koibito)
-ni (example: anata ni)
-wa (example: watashi wa)
-wo (example: hoshi wo mezashite)
-ga (example: manga ga suki desu)
-yo (example: ganbarre yo)
-to
-de


from my example, i knew the usage/meaning. is there any other usage/meaning?
and is there any other words that have same meaning?


i just started learn Japanese.. :sweat: gome ne.


Those words may be Japanese particles. Because Japanese is agglutinative language, your question is similar to demand to teach half of complete Japanese grammar. I have no ability to do.

I guess next website is better and there is the list of the particles that you learn at first step. If you cannot find the particles you want to know in this site, last site may be available.

Japanese grammar 6.1 particles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_grammar#Particles
( and please read first several sentences of this site )

There are many methods to learn/teach Japanese. I donft know how you learn. Then it may confuse you.
There are so many particles in Japanese.

And also there is the listc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_particles

( It is sorted by alphabetic order. Not appropriate for learning order. And without enough knowledge of agglutinative language, I guess you will be confused. )

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The best method to learn Japanese is to find the friend whose native tongue is same as you and who knows Japanese at especially first step.
Sorry, my poor English.
2 Jun 2007, 20:11 #1687
snowmackerel wrote:
Sorry, my poor English.


kimi no eigo subarashii yo! :applaud:
2 Jun 2007, 22:08 #1688
Sugoi snowmackerel!!! aisya_chan, check out snowmackerel's post at the top of this page. All those links should help. And one other thing aisya_chan, don't apologize for asking questions, that's how we all learn.
3 Jun 2007, 13:53 #1689
oh ok^^ thanx on the translation to chiba and snowmackarel :woot:
5 Jun 2007, 01:59 #1690
gaijinmark wrote:I'm just scratching the surface here, what I would recommend is finding a book about Japanese particles and going from there. Ganbarre yo!!!

arigatou esp for the recommmendation! :mrgreen:
actually i don't have any idea all that are called as particles.
arigatou ne! :victory:

snowmackerel wrote:Japanese grammar 6.1 particles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_grammar#Particles
( and please read first several sentences of this site )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_particles

arigatou for the link. i'm checking it.. :mrgreen:

gaijinmark wrote:Sugoi snowmackerel!!! aisya_chan, check out snowmackerel's post at the top of this page. All those links should help. And one other thing aisya_chan, don't apologize for asking questions, that's how we all learn.

hait. gome.. :sweat:
5 Jun 2007, 16:32 #1691
i've been learning some japanese words by watching animes and jdos... :naughty: but im still confused coz sometimes the translations vary... what i want to know is the difference between:

nani, nanda, nandato, nani kore, nanda korewa, nanjate (?) and nandate...

all i know is: nani=what, nandato= what did u say?

also, the phrase "long time no see" and "it's been a while" is often translated as "hisashiburi ja/da ne"... is it right??? :sweat:

and the difference between: ganbarre, ganbatte, ganbarru... :crazy:
5 Jun 2007, 16:40 #1692
RkoCenaHolic23 wrote:i've been learning some japanese words by watching animes and jdos... :naughty: but im still confused coz sometimes the translations vary... what i want to know is the difference between:

nani, nanda, nandato, nani kore, nanda korewa, nanjate (?) and nandate...

all i know is: nani=what, nandato= what did u say?

also, the phrase "long time no see" and "it's been a while" is often translated as "hisashiburi ja/da ne"... is it right??? :sweat:

and the difference between: ganbarre, ganbatte, ganbarru... :crazy:


Nani kore = What's this?

Nanda kore wa = Why is this...

Nanjate and nandate mean the same. I think replacing 'da' with 'ja' is the more rude form of it.

Yeap, hisashi buri.

Ganbare, ganbatte, and ganbaru all mean the same, I think it's just the tense that makes it vary (need back-up on this!)

I hope I helped. :sweat:
5 Jun 2007, 18:33 #1693
obentou wrote:

Nani kore = What's this?

Nanda kore wa = Why is this...

Nanjate and nandate mean the same. I think replacing 'da' with 'ja' is the more rude form of it.

Yeap, hisashi buri.

Ganbare, ganbatte, and ganbaru all mean the same, I think it's just the tense that makes it vary (need back-up on this!)

I hope I helped. :sweat:


salamat... :hehe: i mean, thank you... :victory:
5 Jun 2007, 19:27 #1694
obentou wrote:

Ganbare, ganbatte, and ganbaru all mean the same, I think it's just the tense that makes it vary (need back-up on this!)

I hope I helped. :sweat:


Ganbaru is a verb, and it conjugates to "Ganbari-masho"(Let's Ganbaru), "Ganbatte-kudasai"(Please Ganbaru), or "Ganbare"(ordering someone to Ganbaru). We often say "Ganbatte!". It means "(please) do Ganbaru" and the "please" part is omitted. It means "Good Luck".

:victory:
5 Jun 2007, 21:20 #1695
^ Sankyuu... :bow:

so if i want to wish someone luck or do his best, i'll just say "ganbatte"?

and if kudasai is "please" then what is onegaishimasu? :sweat:
5 Jun 2007, 21:37 #1696
RkoCenaHolic23 wrote:^ Sankyuu... :bow:

so if i want to wish someone luck or do his best, i'll just say "ganbatte"?

and if kudasai is "please" then what is onegaishimasu? :sweat:


Onegaishimasu is also 'please' but it sounds a little more polite. Both can be used to request for items.

kitte o kudasai (please give me stamps)
kitte o onegaishimasu

But if the verb form 'te' used, example: 'ganbatte' , the word onegaishimasu CANNOT be used..use kudasai instead.

ganbatte kudasai

In some cases, kudasai cannot be be used;
1-requesting for service "kokusai denwa onegaishimasu" - Overseas phone call, please
2-making phone calls "chiba-san onegaishimasu" - May I speak to chiba please
6 Jun 2007, 02:10 #1697
chiba wrote:

Onegaishimasu is also 'please' but it sounds a little more polite. Both can be used to request for items.

kitte o kudasai (please give me stamps)
kitte o onegaishimasu

But if the verb form 'te' used, example: 'ganbatte' , the word onegaishimasu CANNOT be used..use kudasai instead.

ganbatte kudasai

In some cases, kudasai cannot be be used;
1-requesting for service "kokusai denwa onegaishimasu" - Overseas phone call, please
2-making phone calls "chiba-san onegaishimasu" - May I speak to chiba please


Very well explained. :applaud:
6 Jun 2007, 09:26 #1698
what's "Jimange" means?
6 Jun 2007, 19:41 #1699
suika_suki wrote:what's "Jimange" means?

Stem of na-adjective of "jimangena"
noun of "Proudly"
8 Jun 2007, 13:19 #1700
snowmackerel wrote:
Stem of na-adjective of "jimangena"
noun of "Proudly"


ooo....*nod nod*

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