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groink wrote:Check out these U.S. statistics on broadband usage:

http://news.com.com/2100-1038-5172107.html?tag=nefd_hed

I'm amazed how Comcast, with their download limits and such, is beating out Road Runner.

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They used to have RR ads all the ttime about 3 yrs ago here, but i think here in DC, RR was bought out by Cox Communication, which i think in turn was bought out by Comcast. I used to have Cox cable tv, but since about a yr ago, i started getting billed by comcast.

MixxDreamer wrote:
high speed @ school.. dunno what type of connection though but its fast :mrgreen:

probably T1.... almost all colleges and universities use T1... its amazingly fast!

got dsl 1500/128kbps rated, but only around 1137/135kbps actual.

I was using ADSL. I just switched to cable.

lovelessemotion wrote:probably T1.... almost all colleges and universities use T1... its amazingly fast!

*envy*
min 3 hours for ONE Promotional Video.... :angry:
wanna d/l all those files on BT..... :(

atheon wrote:

*envy*
min 3 hours for ONE Promotional Video.... :angry:
wanna d/l all those files on BT..... :(

Oh.. no need to envy those with T1. Cos most of the time the Universities limit their total ul/dl usage to about 500MB per week. Meaning the most u can dl in a week is about 1 ep of drama. Which is sad.... :( :shakehead:

Smiley_18 wrote:

Oh.. no need to envy those with T1. Cos most of the time the Universities limit their total ul/dl usage to about 500MB per week. Meaning the most u can dl in a week is about 1 ep of drama. Which is sad.... :( :shakehead:

500 mb is HUGE for me....i'll take forever to dl these....let me count...
maybe 30 hours....at least. if the line is fast. :beaten:
so pls use pic as avatar.......... :sweat: i had trouble loadin those "moving" ones.

atheon wrote:

500 mb is HUGE for me....i'll take forever to dl these....let me count...
maybe 30 hours....at least. if the line is fast. :beaten:
so pls use pic as avatar.......... :sweat: i had trouble loadin those "moving" ones.

How much do u dl/ week? U dl any dramas?

Smiley_18 wrote:
How much do u dl/ week? U dl any dramas?

nope.
just dl mp3 and PVs, or CMs. not much though, BT is useless for me.
my connection is 56k, damn slow.

Nismo wrote:26M ADSL :P Gotta love Japan.

That's like 3250kB/s ?? DSL can support that?

I use 3000/640 kbps DSL, around 350/80 kB/s real world speed.

Smiley_18 wrote:

Oh.. no need to envy those with T1. Cos most of the time the Universities limit their total ul/dl usage to about 500MB per week. ( :shakehead:

not this college :P and yeah some universities do limit... guess i got lucky :beaten:

Hey, um, what is a T-1 connection?! :sweat: :sweat:

ahochaude wrote:Hey, um, what is a T-1 connection?! :sweat: :sweat:

Simply put, it's a REALLY fast connection that (big) businesses, universities, etc. use... It makes DSL, cable modem, et al, look like dialup.... :hehe:

T1 is not that fast only 1.544 mbps; DSL and Cable can already go faster than that. I think you're thinking of T3, which can go upto 43.232 mbps.

1300/256 DSL

Road Runner here in Louisiana.
$40/month

Been on cable all my life [home(cable), work(cable), college(T1)], sorry for those damned in the land of 56k...

SBC DSL... Not that fast... but good price.

RedRum wrote:T1 is not that fast only 1.544 mbps; DSL and Cable can already go faster than that. I think you're thinking of T3, which can go upto 43.232 mbps.

The only REALLY HUGE difference between frame-relay circuits (ex: T1, T3, etc.) and cable/DSL is one thing that residental customers never hear of: CIR

CIR is "carrier information rate". In Laymen's terms, it basically means if I sign onto a contract with the telco for a certain data rate, I'm guaranteed that data rate for the duration of the contract. If at ANY time during the contract period I do not receive that data rate, the telco is penalized in accordance with the contract (usually via either subtracting the billable hours that the data rate wasn't met, or a penalty fee).

Did anyone ever sign a CIR contract for DSL or cable modem? Naaaaaaaaaaah! I didn't think so! You only see CIR contracts on T-1, T-3, OC-x, and other frame-relay circuits.

As for DSL or cable modem... It probably is faster than most frame-relay circuits. But the telco or cable company has absolutely no obligation to meet any pre-determined data rate, ala Comcast and other forms of trottling (limiting bandwidth to substantially less than the size of the pipe itself).

As a result, there aren't any serious companies/corporations using cable modem or DSL as their major pipe to the public Internet. They can't afford to be pushed around or screwed by the vendors.

Here's a link to a thoroughly written (and very techy) white paper on T-1 circuits: http://www.dcbnet.com/notes/9611t1.html

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aznkoodies wrote:Road Runner here in Louisiana.
$40/month

Amen! I'm using the same too!
And it's just great!!!!!!

aznkoodies wrote:Been on cable all my life [home(cable), work(cable), college(T1)]

Hey, at least you have had the privilege!

aznkoodies wrote:sorry for those damned in the land of 56k...

I was one of them until this past Monday!

Now it's all Road Runner!!!!!! :jumpie:

ahochaude wrote:Hey, um, what is a T-1 connection?! :sweat: :sweat:

bmwracer wrote:Simply put, it's a REALLY fast connection that (big) businesses, universities, etc. use... It makes DSL, cable modem, et al, look like dialup.... :hehe:

RedRum wrote:T1 is not that fast only 1.544 mbps; DSL and Cable can already go faster than that. I think you're thinking of T3, which can go upto 43.232 mbps.

groink wrote:
The only REALLY HUGE difference between frame-relay circuits (ex: T1, T3, etc.) and cable/DSL is one thing that residental customers never hear of: CIR

CIR is "carrier information rate". In Laymen's terms, it basically means if I sign onto a contract with the telco for a certain data rate, I'm guaranteed that data rate for the duration of the contract. If at ANY time during the contract period I do not receive that data rate, the telco is penalized in accordance with the contract (usually via either subtracting the billable hours that the data rate wasn't met, or a penalty fee).

Did anyone ever sign a CIR contract for DSL or cable modem? Naaaaaaaaaaah! I didn't think so! You only see CIR contracts on T-1, T-3, OC-x, and other frame-relay circuits.

As for DSL or cable modem... It probably is faster than most frame-relay circuits. But the telco or cable company has absolutely no obligation to meet any pre-determined data rate, ala Comcast and other forms of trottling (limiting bandwidth to substantially less than the size of the pipe itself).

As a result, there aren't any serious companies/corporations using cable modem or DSL as their major pipe to the public Internet. They can't afford to be pushed around or screwed by the vendors.

Here's a link to a thoroughly written (and very techy) white paper on T-1 circuits: http://www.dcbnet.com/notes/9611t1.html

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Hey guys, thanks for that explaination on T-1 and T-3 and whatever the hell it is!!!! :beaten:

I kind of get it. :beaten: :hehe: