Hmm..I watch "Mibu Gishi Den" (Koichi Sato, Kiichi Nakai) also abt Shinsengumi...woaaa..that was a bloody good movie. Btw, episode 15 of Shinsengumi is very interesting and I think this series starts to pick up bits by bits..just give it a chance ;)
Shinsengumi! (2004 NHK Taiga)
Started by sangmin · 14 Mar 2004 · 512 replies
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2004 · NHK · 17.4%
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Akakage wrote:Hmm..I watch "Mibu Gishi Den" (Koichi Sato, Kiichi Nakai) also abt Shinsengumi...woaaa..that was a bloody good movie. Btw, episode 15 of Shinsengumi is very interesting and I think this series starts to pick up bits by bits..just give it a chance ;)
Kiichi Nakai played Yagyu Munenori in Musashi, I believe. :)
bmwracer wrote:
Kiichi Nakai played Yagyu Munenori in Musashi, I believe. :)
Hmm... :crazy: I guess so. Anyhow..just look for that movie "Mibu Gishi Den/When the Last Sword is Drawn"..I know you love Samurai film and this one you just don't want to miss :)
bmwracer wrote:
Kiichi Nakai played Yagyu Munenori in Musashi, I believe. :)
Yep, You're right .
I really like this Taiga drama! I usually don't really watch these (Toshiie and Matsu being an exception), but this one's got me hooked. It's really interesting (not to mention all the good looking men for me to look at!). Sorry bmwracer, I know you prefer Musashi with lovely Ryoko in it, but... :P
Rinrin wrote:.............but this one's got me hooked. It's really interesting (not to mention all the good looking men for me to look at!).
That's one BIG reason, to see "GOOD LOOKING MEN", especially Kouji Yamamoto, he's one hot looking *cough* sexy male in ancient custome.
Rinrin wrote:It's really interesting (not to mention all the good looking men for me to look at!).
That's why I think the ratings are so high. I think Musashi's story is much much better, but this show is about boy-power... :hehe:
Sorry bmwracer, I know you prefer Musashi with lovely Ryoko in it, but... :P
Yep. There isn't any gal in Shinsengumi that is remotely worth looking at, so there you have it.
Heck, I just think it's a great show (but the fine females make it that much better :P )
I think that last night's episode (in Hawaii, via KIKU-TV), Episode 5: "Wedding Day," or something 'long the lines of that, to The Man, was THE single best Taiga episode ever for any series.
You're really beginning to see the Kondo's mindset that marks him as "the one" to create a band like the Shinsengumi; I mean, how else can you characterize a brotha' -- on his wedding day, no less -- willing to help his friend out of trouble. The fact that his new bride, Tsune, supports him more than she's expected to, let's admit, compliments Kondo's actions, breaks the impression of how we're supposed to think of such Tokugawa-era marriages (and this is not to say that Kondo better be a damn good husband to her, which, we know he will if that last scene means to say anything). You can see a grand love story forming into this already great tale . . . and at the same time, you're fearful because you know how it all ends for Kondo.
And all of that, for one show, would've been enough for The Man. Did it stop there, though? No. You're seeing all the future members of the Shinsengumi in this transition period: in addition to what's mentioned above for Kondo, Toshizo's getting more serious 'bout his lot in life; Souji Okita keeps honing his skills; Sutesuke Takimoto, even, is a loyal friend (enough to crash his childhood pal's wedding :) ) to the end, you can see; Kogoro Katsuura's steadfast demeanor finds a niche in the group; even a Nishigi Niimi is shown introduced (sorta') to Kondo and his nucleic crew. Once they all hone their skills further, guys like Tomomitsu Yamaguchi and Sanosuke Harada can fall in nicely. I think that, real or imagined, all this myriad of personalities are valued in a group like Shinsengumi.
I think that last night's episode (in Hawaii, via KIKU-TV), Episode 5: "Wedding Day," or something 'long the lines of that, to The Man, was THE single best Taiga episode ever for any series.
You're really beginning to see the Kondo's mindset that marks him as "the one" to create a band like the Shinsengumi; I mean, how else can you characterize a brotha' -- on his wedding day, no less -- willing to help his friend out of trouble. The fact that his new bride, Tsune, supports him more than she's expected to, let's admit, compliments Kondo's actions, breaks the impression of how we're supposed to think of such Tokugawa-era marriages (and this is not to say that Kondo better be a damn good husband to her, which, we know he will if that last scene means to say anything). You can see a grand love story forming into this already great tale . . . and at the same time, you're fearful because you know how it all ends for Kondo.
And all of that, for one show, would've been enough for The Man. Did it stop there, though? No. You're seeing all the future members of the Shinsengumi in this transition period: in addition to what's mentioned above for Kondo, Toshizo's getting more serious 'bout his lot in life; Souji Okita keeps honing his skills; Sutesuke Takimoto, even, is a loyal friend (enough to crash his childhood pal's wedding :) ) to the end, you can see; Kogoro Katsuura's steadfast demeanor finds a niche in the group; even a Nishigi Niimi is shown introduced (sorta') to Kondo and his nucleic crew. Once they all hone their skills further, guys like Tomomitsu Yamaguchi and Sanosuke Harada can fall in nicely. I think that, real or imagined, all this myriad of personalities are valued in a group like Shinsengumi.
bmwracer wrote:
Yep. There isn't any gal in Shinsengumi that is remotely worth looking at, so there you have it.
Not even Yuka? (I know she's supposed to appear in this drama.) :mrgreen:
BTW I'm not much into history so this might be a really stupid question, but how close are Taiga dramas to the actual historical events? (Not just Shinsengumi, but all Taiga dramas.)
Hey Akakage you're right about Yamamoto. He really looks good in this drama! But then so does Odagiri Joe & Fujiwara Tatsuya! :hehe:
Rinrin wrote:
Not even Yuka? (I know she's supposed to appear in this drama.) :mrgreen:
BTW I'm not much into history so this might be a really stupid question, but how close are Taiga dramas to the actual historical events? (Not just Shinsengumi, but all Taiga dramas.)
Hey Akakage you're right about Yamamoto. He really looks good in this drama! But then so does Odagiri Joe & Fujiwara Tatsuya! :hehe:
Yuka?!..Yuck yuck yucka!! I hate her, so called "cute" :beaten: no cuteness at all...bleah (sorry to all her adoring fans but I just hate her for no particular reason..)
Me too, I'm not into history thing but BOY POWER is what I'm into :P
Yamamoto, Odagiri, Fujiwara, Eguchi, Katori...drool factor :sweat:
Ahem..Episode 15 is very good...you wanna see a bit of action and chasing around, well you don't want to miss that episode.
Akakage wrote:
That's one BIG reason, to see "GOOD LOOKING MEN", especially Kouji Yamamoto, he's one hot looking *cough* sexy male in ancient custome.
I agree with you, Kouji Yamamoto is really hot !!!! :love_eyes: He's the main reason why I'm watchin' Shinsengumi.
Akakage wrote:
Ahem..Episode 15 is very good...you wanna see a bit of action and chasing around, well you don't want to miss that episode.
I'm gonna have to wait awhile. In Hawaii we're only on ep.6 I think. :(
Rinrin wrote:
I'm gonna have to wait awhile. In Hawaii we're only on ep.6 I think. :(
I'm watchin' "Shinsengumi" in NHK International (or World Premiun, as they call). The last episode I've watched was the 14th. I agree with Akakage, I think the plot is gettin' better and better, really interesting. Saturday I'll watch the 15th.
But I'm still thinkin' Shingo Katori doesn't fit in the main role (Sorry, guys !!!).
Like I said before not each episodes are good but I think after episodes 15 it's getting better.
Yeah, got to admit, sometimes I sort of see Shingo struggling so hard to have this pose as a great leader, Kondo Isami. But I just have to admire his effort even he's not too fitted with that role :)
Yeah, got to admit, sometimes I sort of see Shingo struggling so hard to have this pose as a great leader, Kondo Isami. But I just have to admire his effort even he's not too fitted with that role :)
Rinrin wrote:Not even Yuka? (I know she's supposed to appear in this drama.) :mrgreen:
Nope.
BTW I'm not much into history so this might be a really stupid question, but how close are Taiga dramas to the actual historical events? (Not just Shinsengumi, but all Taiga dramas.)
Haven't seen that many Taiga dramas, but they only used Yoshikawa Eiji's book as a baseline for Musashi... Lotsa stuff in Musashi wasn't in the book...
bmwracer wrote:
Haven't seen that many Taiga dramas, but they only used Yoshikawa Eiji's book as a baseline for Musashi... Lotsa stuff in Musashi wasn't in the book...
Eiji Yoshikawa..hmmm I wonder if "Taiko" will also be made into taiga dramas..
Akakage wrote:Eiji Yoshikawa..hmmm I wonder if "Taiko" will also be made into taiga dramas..
Good idea. As long as they don't turn it into an SMAP-fest.... :shakehead:
bmwracer wrote:Good idea. As long as they don't turn it into an SMAP-fest.... :shakehead:i just saw the 1st ep yester day and i thought that it's more comedic in entertainment then historical edu-tainment, which is fine by me. If they REALLY wanted to make it a yuk-fest, the name shoulda been 'shinsengumi-bears', LOL!
bmwracer wrote:
Good idea. As long as they don't turn it into an SMAP-fest.... :shakehead:
Ok, I'll turn it into V6-fest then.. :hehe: FYI, Junichi Okada will play in NHK's next year Taiga drama ;) there you go..V6-fest!
niko2x wrote:the name shoulda been 'shinsengumi-bears', LOL!
Very punny. :hehe: :hehe:
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