Iron Chef

Started by IkematsuSosuke · 14 Mar 2004 · 72 replies

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26 Apr 2004, 13:34 #41
Anyone watch the new Iron Chef America? First episode was Bobby Flay vs Iron Chef Sakai. Guess who won?

Kinda funny, seems like a parody of Iron Chef from SNL.
26 Apr 2004, 13:39 #42
Wasnt Iron Chef America a rerun of an earlier Iron Chef that aired a long time ago? Cause i remember i saw something similar to what is on the commercials....i dunno...
26 Apr 2004, 13:59 #43
You might be thinking of Iron Chef USA which was hosted by William Shatner. That show was horrible.

There's been a lot of outrage about the Flay vs. Sakai match. Most people agree that Sakai won his match. Fixed? :|
26 Apr 2004, 14:09 #44
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_ia/text/0,,FOOD_16696_19048,00.html

I think these are new epsidoes. Not sure but I've never seen them before.
26 Apr 2004, 21:30 #45
Iron Chef America is a separate series made by Food Network in which the original Fuji TV Iron Chefs competed as challengers. Of course, I've watched the episodes during last weekend and the scoring seemed so suspect as if they were rigged. Too much bias in favor of Flay because he's the "ace" of Food TV... If Julia Child were still alive, I'm sure she would have given the W to Morimoto and Sakai.
26 Apr 2004, 21:34 #46
Pemu wrote:Iron Chef Morimoto was beaten by an Italian chef (forgot his name) in a porcini (mushroom) battle. Morimoto rarely looses. The episode was aired today. Looking at the dishes made me hungry :P Hmm...the challengers tend to pick Morimoto and Kenichi, where is Sakai? :(
he has his own show on food netwrk as well, mario batali.
27 Apr 2004, 00:00 #47
UWFShooter wrote:Iron Chef America is a separate series made by Food Network in which the original Fuji TV Iron Chefs competed as challengers. Of course, I've watched the episodes during last weekend and the scoring seemed so suspect as if they were rigged. Too much bias in favor of Flay because he's the "ace" of Food TV... If Julia Child were still alive, I'm sure she would have given the W to Morimoto and Sakai.

Home field advantage yo. They seem to make an effort to equalize the play, as, it were, but it's all too predictable. In the Batali/Morimoto battle, Batali did make more imaginative dishes, but still... :(

Without Alton Brown, it would be worthless to watch. And I'm surprised that Morimoto still needs a translator... :rolleyes:
27 Apr 2004, 00:03 #48
I missed the battle! :shakehead: Can someone tell me who won the battles? I hope they rerun it.


EDIT: Nevermind I don't want to know. It's rerunning this Sunday starting at 4pm.
27 Apr 2004, 00:38 #49
Itazura ichiban wrote:...And I'm surprised that Morimoto still needs a translator... :rolleyes:
he prolly doesn't, but america may not be able to wade thru his thick accent. Thus, the translator is more for the american public than his comprehension of the english language.
27 Apr 2004, 01:44 #50
i like watching iron chef
all the yummy foods they create :love_eyes:
hehe, but i don't like the voice-overs too much
27 Apr 2004, 01:46 #51
["Iron Chef America is a separate series made by Food Network in which the original Fuji TV Iron Chefs competed as challengers. Of course, I've watched the episodes during last weekend and the scoring seemed so suspect as if they were rigged. Too much bias in favor of Flay because he's the "ace" of Food TV... If Julia Child were still alive, I'm sure she would have given the W to Morimoto and Sakai"]


Just saw the first episode of Iron Chef America this weekend. What a lousy show! :shakehead: Not only was the decision decidedly biased toward Flay, but the commentators, the judges, etc. all were biased as well. :angry: Also saw just a few minutes of the second episode and that wasn't any better. There was one segment in which the announcer interviews Flay regarding Morimoto and the only compliment Flay had was to say that Morimoto would come up with something different, unusual at the end of his cooking time - nothing about how talented Morimoto is, what his strengths are, why he's an Iron Chef, etc. Just, I'm sure he'll surprise us.

No way I'm watching that show again! :angry:
27 Apr 2004, 02:19 #52
The "judges" on Iron Chef America seem so dry. All their comments are the same. This is nice, or I like it or this is different blah blah blah. :sleeping: I wish they would do some criticizing like in the original Iron Chef.
27 Apr 2004, 02:44 #53
mvc wrote:You might be thinking of Iron Chef USA which was hosted by William Shatner. That show was horrible.

There's been a lot of outrage about the Flay vs. Sakai match. Most people agree that Sakai won his match. Fixed? :|


O haha.... Must have been that... yea you're right... william shatner is no substitue for the original!
27 Apr 2004, 03:11 #54
UWFShooter wrote:Iron Chef America is a separate series made by Food Network in which the original Fuji TV Iron Chefs competed as challengers. Of course, I've watched the episodes during last weekend and the scoring seemed so suspect as if they were rigged. Too much bias in favor of Flay because he's the "ace" of Food TV... If Julia Child were still alive, I'm sure she would have given the W to Morimoto and Sakai.


The most suspect score? Sakai lost on plating. How does the Delacroix of French Cooking lose to Bobby Flay's skillet plating? For god's sake, how does the man who has never lost a fish battle lose to Flay? Moreover, they called into question Sakai's integrity by stating that he would complain like ole Bobby Flay complained on the original Iron Chef.

Somehow Morimoto lost on originality, even though the judges were all like, "I've never seen anything like this before."

It was definitely rigged in the sense that it was a "passing of the torch" to the American Iron Chefs. Sakai got to show off his grape sauce, so maybe that was his payment for the show.


Improvements to the show?

1. Give the chairman some personality. There's no excitement in his voice or anything, and he just comes off as very stiff.

2. Put some more commentators. Banter between a few people fill up the silences and keeps the audience guessing...as well as fill-out knowledge deficits that the announcer has. Maybe an asian food expert, since the announcer doesn't seem to know too much.

3. Get a knowledgeable floor guy. Kevin just doesn't do it. He needs to find out what ingredients are in there.

4. There is no warmth in Kitchen Stadium. Looks too high tech and cold. Maybe change the lighting or make it seem less empty by putting in an audience you can see.
27 Apr 2004, 03:15 #55
UWFShooter wrote:Iron Chef America is a separate series made by Food Network in which the original Fuji TV Iron Chefs competed as challengers. Of course, I've watched the episodes during last weekend and the scoring seemed so suspect as if they were rigged. Too much bias in favor of Flay because he's the "ace" of Food TV... If Julia Child were still alive, I'm sure she would have given the W to Morimoto and Sakai.[emphasis added]


Uh. I DO believe Child is still alive.
27 Apr 2004, 20:14 #56
thetenken wrote:The most suspect score? Sakai lost on plating. How does the Delacroix of French Cooking lose to Bobby Flay's skillet plating? For god's sake, how does the man who has never lost a fish battle lose to Flay? Moreover, they called into question Sakai's integrity by stating that he would complain like ole Bobby Flay complained on the original Iron Chef.

Somehow Morimoto lost on originality, even though the judges were all like, "I've never seen anything like this before."

It was definitely rigged in the sense that it was a "passing of the torch" to the American Iron Chefs. Sakai got to show off his grape sauce, so maybe that was his payment for the show.


Improvements to the show?

1. Give the chairman some personality. There's no excitement in his voice or anything, and he just comes off as very stiff.

2. Put some more commentators. Banter between a few people fill up the silences and keeps the audience guessing...as well as fill-out knowledge deficits that the announcer has. Maybe an asian food expert, since the announcer doesn't seem to know too much.

3. Get a knowledgeable floor guy. Kevin just doesn't do it. He needs to find out what ingredients are in there.

4. There is no warmth in Kitchen Stadium. Looks too high tech and cold. Maybe change the lighting or make it seem less empty by putting in an audience you can see.
this sounds like your ready or that job's interview. :applaud:
3 May 2004, 06:58 #57
Watching Iron Chef America right now..it's boring..but the food still makes me hungry..I don't like the commentator..I don't like how Flay speaks..I want the original

Not only was the decision decidedly biased toward Flay, but the commentators, the judges, etc. all were biased as well.

I agree! :angry: Even with the original Iron Chef..when the Iron Chef went to Italy or other places..and the judges would be the people from that country and they always voted for their chef :angry:

Iron Chef Flay? That doesn't even sound good :nut:
8 Sep 2012, 22:06 #58
'Ryori no Tetsujin' (Iron Chef) returns to Japanese TV in October

Fuji TV recently held a press conference to present their October TV program lineup and announced that popular cooking battle variety program gRyori no Tetsujinh will be making a comeback on Japanese TV screens as gIron Chefh. The program will be aired every Friday from 7:57pm to 8:54pm.

The programfs first incarnation ran for 6 years, starting in 1993, and achieved great viewership ratings despite its nighttime 11pm slot. Ratings averaged 14.8% and reached 23.2% at its peak. The programfs regular chefs, called gIron Chefsh faced off against challenger chefs in an intense battle held in the kitchen studio. The winner was decided by a panel of judges. In 2004, the show format was bought by an American company and gIron Chefh was broadcast in 80 countries.

At the press conference, Fuji TV expressed that gIron Chefh is making a triumphant return. Director of production, Arai Akihiro remarked, gThe show traveled the world, and has been polished up and weeded out. The new eIron cheff will be the world version that we can show now in the year 2012.h

More details about the participants appearing in gIron Chefh will be announced at a later date.

Source: Mantan Web
8 Sep 2012, 22:42 #59
gaijinmark wrote:'Ryori no Tetsujin' (Iron Chef) returns to Japanese TV in October

Now if they'd only bring back the Dotch Cooking Show... :fingerscrossed:
9 Sep 2012, 01:59 #60
bmwracer wrote:
Now if they'd only bring back the Dotch Cooking Show... :fingerscrossed:


Fo reals we need to see some "tokusen sozai" (special ingredients)! Where are the crab guts!?

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