:shocked: Please tell me you're kidding??!! You won't seriously spend a good 15 bucks (or how ever much it costs) on HIS album???!!! What is the world coming to??
Ten. Ten bucks. I mentioned in a previous thread that I probably wouldn't have bought the album if it was over that much. I mean, what? Ten bucks? Also contained a DVD of Hung walkin' 'round campus, shopping, recording the album.
Hey, it's a great "driving home" album. If I'm not mistaken, it's sold over 25,000 copies. No?
Anybody makes a go at I Believe I Can Fly can't be bad at all.
Go check out the "Billboard" site . . . under "top independent albums" or something like that. Go see where Hung's album is ranked.
Ten. Ten bucks. I mentioned in a previous thread that I probably wouldn't have bought the album if it was over that much. I mean, what? Ten bucks? Also contained a DVD of Hung walkin' 'round campus, shopping, recording the album.
Hey, it's a great "driving home" album. If I'm not mistaken, it's sold over 25,000 copies. No?
Anybody makes a go at I Believe I Can Fly can't be bad at all.
Go check out the "Billboard" site . . . under "top independent albums" or something like that. Go see where Hung's album is ranked.
Where has good singing gone?? I think I'll go cry in a corner by myself...:mecry:
Where has good singing gone?? I think I'll go cry in a corner by myself...:mecry:
Oddly enough . . . I'm wondering the same thing too. Where are the Sinatras, the Martins, etc. MAYbe Harry Connick Jr.'s fitting the bill, but he's certainly not as noted as the Rat Pack singers. That must've been a great time to live.
Jeanxi wrote:Where has good singing gone?? I think I'll go cry in a corner by myself...:mecry:
It's just a popularity contest. And now, race is even more a factor that comes into play since you got the white chick, black chick and the asian chick. :shakehead: :shakehead: :shakehead:
Season one produced a white chick, and season two produced a black dude. Coincidence? I think not. No one focuses on the talent of the contestants, but only the color.
It's just a popularity contest. And now, race is even more a factor that comes into play since you got the white chick, black chick and the asian chick. :shakehead: :shakehead: :shakehead:
Season one produced a white chick, and season two produced a black dude. Coincidence? I think not. No one focuses on the talent of the contestants, but only the color.
This show blows goats.
I don't get it; how can it be "you got the white chick, black chick and the asian chick" as you put yet still remain a popularity contest (which wouldn't necessarily present "white chick, black chick and the asian chick" as the winners)?
The Man wrote:Oddly enough . . . I'm wondering the same thing too. Where are the Sinatras, the Martins, etc. MAYbe Harry Connick Jr.'s fitting the bill, but he's certainly not as noted as the Rat Pack singers. That must've been a great time to live.
I think I have the explanation... It's the age of the youth using their eyes more than their ears. This has gone on since the introduction of MTV 20 plus years ago. Everything to them has to be visually appealing. The reason why the likes of Frank, Harry, Dean Martin, etc. is because they sound really good. That was in the days of radio and vinyl records.
The most important thing in today's MTV period is your visual appearance. Now, I'm not saying that you have to LOOK GOOD, I'm just saying that your appearance has to appeal to the youth. William Hung is a good example of this -- he looks like a f***ing dork, he's Asian, and he has guts. That's ALL that's needed for success! And those other trailor park trash that were mentioned earlier (Britany, among others) -- same thing! She looks hot, and she keeps pushing the envelope... That's HER visual effect on people! If I heard her on the radio, I think she sounds like a whiney kid.
And it isn't even people that needs the visual appeal... Look at the Apple iMac computer. The only reason that thing sells is the asthetics of the thing. Again, it's the visual appeal. It doesn't matter that it lacks a lot of the software out there or it has less than a 10-percent market share. The idea that it looks cute is enough for it to sell by the millions.
I think the young people today should start using their other senses and not rely just on their visual sense.
groink wrote:
I think I have the explanation... It's the age of the youth using their eyes more than their ears. This has gone on since the introduction of MTV 20 plus years ago. Everything to them has to be visually appealing. The reason why the likes of Frank, Harry, Dean Martin, etc. is because they sound really good. That was in the days of radio and vinyl records.
The most important thing in today's MTV period is your visual appearance. Now, I'm not saying that you have to LOOK GOOD, I'm just saying that your appearance has to appeal to the youth. William Hung is a good example of this -- he looks like a f***ing dork, he's Asian, and he has guts. That's ALL that's needed for success! And those other trailor park trash that were mentioned earlier (Britany, among others) -- same thing! She looks hot, and she keeps pushing the envelope... That's HER visual effect on people! If I heard her on the radio, I think she sounds like a whiney kid.
And it isn't even people that needs the visual appeal... Look at the Apple iMac computer. The only reason that thing sells is the asthetics of the thing. Again, it's the visual appeal. It doesn't matter that it lacks a lot of the software out there or it has less than a 10-percent market share. The idea that it looks cute is enough for it to sell by the millions.
I think the young people today should start using their other senses and not rely just on their visual sense.
--- groink
Right, MTV generation and all that . . . that's part of it. Specifically, what I was getting at is where are the male crooners of the time of our fathers. The current pop scene in many countries is certainly not devoid of female singers (Whitney -- yes, I STILL think she sings good; and you should too, Barbara Streisand [oh, be quiet, you don't have to be . . . oh, well, I better not say], Celine Dion, Yolanda Adams, et al).
Where are the good male singers of today; nothing should shut that out, visuals or not.
I don't get it; how can it be "you got the white chick, black chick and the asian chick" as you put yet still remain a popularity contest (which wouldn't necessarily present "white chick, black chick and the asian chick" as the winners)?
Sorry, "a popularity contest" was what it took to get to this stage. Now that the favorites are competing on a "race biased" level.
American Idol is a popularity contest. It's not just about singing. Seriously, there are a lot of "idols" who are not particularly good singers. Britney Spears is an idol but she's not a great singer.
So, Jasmine isn't the best singer in the competition. If America chose it's music "idols" based on singing ability alone, the music charts would be very different.
Super No. 1 wrote: . . . If America chose it's music "idols" based on singing ability alone, the music charts would be very different.
Heh. Not The Man's America. I own just a little over 20 compact discs, mostly Prince (The Artist Formerly Known as O(+>), ALL of which I bought from the store. I'm OVERLY happy to be able to say that one thing the music industry CAN'T make me do is FORCE me to buy what is supposedly "good, mmmm, good!"
I totally agree that "idol" doesn't mean the person's a great singer. However, because American Idol is marketed as a singing show, everyone assumes that the voting is purely based on the singing.
If FOX wanted to make an idol show that fits the definition of the word, they should take some notes on how the Japanese operate their idol search contests. In 1985, Sakai Noriko won one of these contests, and it wasn't based on just singing... She had to dance, sing, and act. I can't see why they can't use the same criteria to find THE American idol.
Or maybe that would be too close to Star Search. :P I'd watch Star Search any day over AI. And much much better talent in that show (former winners include Usher, Leanne Rimes, Britney Spears, etc.)
Alright, I'm gonna put 500 yen in here because I watch AI :sweat: This is obviously a popularity contest more than a talent contest although there is some great talent. Um, look in the audience! There are a ton of kids and teens in there.....you think they vote for only talent? NO. I know people of all ages watching this show and rooting for several faves, but they never vote. I feel like mostly the kids vote. Some people should have never been through to even the top 32 or even the top 12. One example, that chick who was a model....she could NOT sing! She didn't belong there. She shat on "Come to My Window". It was just horrible. Before that, she got through twice after forgetting her lyrics twice b/c she was partying. I think part of all of this is fixed as well to throw monkey wrenches in, plus the voting thing.
As for the voting, another note about that. I voted once during all 3 seasons. It took me forever to get through...I kept getting a busy signal. After 3 tries, I got through once and after that I didn't bother anymore. So yeah, I wouldn't vote over and over again for my fave. I feel like kids would take the time to call over and over, lol! My opinion about the voting is that it shouldn't be voting for your favorite.....it should be voting for who you want to leave. I feel it would be more effective and I think people would vote more that way.
For the record, I'm a fan of Jasmine, but she's one of many I like. She has a great voice but she hasn't been doing so well lately. Sometimes people suck one week and they squeak by out of forgiveness anyway. One bad week doesn't necessarily mean they are gone. Pros make mistakes too and not everyone can jump genres well and not every song can be touched. Especially with her reaction this week and the audience's reaction to La Toya, I think she may be going next week. I think she got extra pity votes for crying after Simon ragged on her, lol. I still like her, but I highly doubt she'll win.
But I'm also a fan of Jennifer Hudson. And La Toya. I liked Camille, but she wasn't belting them out enough and she needed help picking songs. She had potential but wasn't confident enough to use her full talent. I also liked Amy Adams. Amy Adams got voted off when Simon said she looked like Jay Leno although she was the best one that night (country night, she was good, and I HATE country) :rofl: Diana's got some real pipes too! Her personality kinda irritates me, I can't explain it. She has grown a lot during the course. But...there were a lot of good singers who didn't go through, some in the top 32, some in the top 12, some who didn't even get to the top 32.
Sorry to say it, but I'm not a fan of Fantasia. I just don't like her voice. She can sing, but the sound of her voice doesn't frost my cake. It reminds me of something like Macy Gray, who I really don't like :sweat: I thought JPL sucked. John Stevens wasn't cut out for this.
I don't really care who wins because it doesn't matter. Some of them will get deals anyway. I think if there will be one more season, I think it will be the last. This year they had trouble getting past all the onchi people and attention wh0res to find talent, LOL. There's probably none left :hehe:
2) Camille doesn't have the guts to go All The Way :mrgreen:
3) All male contestants sucks!! (although i love listening to John Steven's voice it's kinda relaxing but he's not that flexible in singing)
4) I do think also that most of the vote are from those freaking childrens.
5) Jasmine is in the hot spot next week, since la toya's gone so her fan's votes will be against Jasmine. (It is really is a POPULARITY contest).
6) U can't judge the person's ability by just one performance although it adds a little thrill on the show. bet u even Paula can exceed those diff. genres every week.
One quick comment...For you Hawaii people, aren't those "Vote! Vote! Vote!" commercials for Jasmine Trias on Fox so ANNOYING???!!! Everytime I see it I want to blow up my tv. :banghead:
Hirari Chan wrote:One quick comment...For you Hawaii people, aren't those "Vote! Vote! Vote!" commercials for Jasmine Trias on Fox so ANNOYING???!!! Everytime I see it I want to blow up my tv. :banghead:
Wow! They have those kind of commercials in Hawaii???
Anyway, watched "On Air with Ryan Seacrest" yesterday and I guess that Randy is going to hook up La Toya (his words, "you will get your just deserved"). As Clay Aiken said a few days ago, the people in the top 4 got record deals, heck even people not in the top 4 from the other seasons got record deals and even Hung got a record deal. Btw, Hung sold over 25,000+ copies of his album and made it to the Billboard top 100 and was like #38.
I was listening to the radio this morning and the DJ's were like "Jasmine is winning because she is HOT!"
Anyway, anyone catch that awesome Lakers vs. Spurs game last night! Let's go Lakers!!!
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