why is comedy so rare in the japanese entertainment

lol @ "Adam Sandler" being funny.

Adam Sandler is the most contrived, "funny man" in history. His comedy is juvenile and an insult to the intelligence of most people with a semblance of intelligence. But, that seems to be the theme and commonplace of "American wit" for most people under 30 these days...




You want Japanese comedy, jump on Mechaike. Or, more specifically... Okamura Takashi...

THAT is a funny man.

people don't understand
adam sandlers character is to be stupid, loud and annoying
thats his character in most movies
this guy is actually a genious
any comedian has to have smarts
anyways why is it so hard for people to understand
that he plays a character
and yeah in real life he's a lot more humble
but he can still get goofy
he's been in many movies where he doesn't have that
typical voice we all know adam sandler has
like bullet proof, that wasn't even a comedy
lets see here, punch drunk love
he wasn't crazy in that movie
and airheads his first flick
he plays a character
does anyone know what it means to
play a character
the guy doesn't have witty humor, or even situational humor
his humor is potty humor, and sometimes physical
and it obviously works for him
if he has his own production studio
the two toughest critics roger and ebert say he's one of the funniest
magazines praise him
not only that
he also writes his own songs and scripts
and he makes millions for every movies he's in
oh yeah 50 first dates i know all the women loved
and he wasn't annoying in that one or in the wedding singer
thats because he played a different character in those movies
so maybe you shouldn't be bashing the actor
maybe people should know what a character is
again to make it clear
he's not the same character in every movie
don't criticize someone or something you have no idea about

Moteru wrote:people don't understand
adam sandlers character is to be stupid, loud and annoying

He is that.

thats his character in most movies
this guy is actually a genious
any comedian has to have smarts

any comedian does not have to have smarts... there are many that do not.

anyways why is it so hard for people to understand
that he plays a character
and yeah in real life he's a lot more humble

Bull**** he's humble... I met him in Tower Records in 1999 and he was the most arrogant prick.

but he can still get goofy
he's been in many movies where he doesn't have that
typical voice we all know adam sandler has

as a character... whichEVER character, he isn't a very good actor and he isn't funny.

like bullet proof, that wasn't even a comedy
lets see here, punch drunk love
he wasn't crazy in that movie
and airheads his first flick
he plays a character

In EVERY movie he plays a character. What's your point? and Why are you rambling?

does anyone know what it means to
play a character
the guy doesn't have witty humor, or even situational humor
his humor is potty humor, and sometimes physical
and it obviously works for him

and I'm saying it's a load of crap that people that enjoy "loads of crap" (not scatologically) cling to.

if he has his own production studio
the two toughest critics roger and ebert say he's one of the funniest

I'm not either and so what if he has a studio? What does him having a studio have to do with his juvenile humor?

magazines praise him
not only that
he also writes his own songs and scripts
and he makes millions for every movies he's in
oh yeah 50 first dates i know all the women loved
and he wasn't annoying in that one or in the wedding singer
thats because he played a different character in those movies
so maybe you shouldn't be bashing the actor
maybe people should know what a character is
again to make it clear
he's not the same character in every movie
don't criticize someone or something you have no idea about

I don't think you should tell me what not to bash after that garbled, wandering rant above...which was a bitch of a format to read anyway



I've met the man...

and he was a PRICK.

I don't think he's funny... not even remotely. All his money thrown in my face won't change a damn thing. I don't care what he owns, who he bones, or who masturbates to his movies... I don't care if they're paid off, laid off, or cloned to agree with "praise" of his films.

He is NOT funny.

So, you like him... ok cool. You want a battle of the condescending... I'm really bored and have an hour to kill.

You come to J-dorama with your "lucky 7" posts and rip on Japan's humor with a "WHO'S BIGGER THAN ADAM SANDLER" rant...

as if you're here to enlighten Japan with your knowledge of that... man.

and you expect people to embrace your ideology?

nuh uh...

some people here may dance around with your lame comments... but I'm not one of them.

I like the 70's through 90's comedians. Of this bunch, my favorites are Sam Kinison, Jerry Seinfeld, Cheech & Chong, Steve Martin, George Carlin, Eddie Murphy, Linda Poundstone, and David Brenner. In Hawaii, I used to go to the Comedy Club at the Ilikai Hotel almost every week during the 80's and up to the mid 90's. Today's comedy -- overall it just isn't that funny to me.

Getting into Japanese comedy... The stand-up comedian network in Japan is quite interesting and different from American comedy. For example, most Japanese comedy are skit-based, very similar to British skits you see on Monty Python or Benny Hill. Therefore, comedy groups are more popular in Japan than one-man stage performances.

Also, Japan has a strong mentoring program in the comedian industry, where interns learning to be comedians literally sell themselves to the mentors as servants. Just like most things in Japan, young people actually go to comedian school to learn various skills like overall stage presentation and content development. Then after school, they go back to the comedy companies and perform servant-like tasks like shining shoes, purchase bentos down the street, and literally brown-nose the mentors. All of this is so that, once a month, the mentors will give the interns envelopes filled with money. In one documentary I watched, the interns sometime have to beg for money envelopes, which may seem demeaning to most Americans.

One other thing about the Japanese comedy industry... Unlike the U.S., most comedy companies are owned by large Japanese corporations. So for example an electronics company has a electronics division, as well as a comedy division. It's totally strange to people outside of Japan.

Hope this sheds some light on the subject...

--- groink

Moteru wrote:people don't understand ... you have no idea about

LOL! Good luck visiting another culture with that attitude, bub. Here's a big hint: learn to be more accepting and tolerant of different opinions. You think Adam Sandler is funny, some other people don't. No big deal. Life goes on.

ehhh...

just read this

http://www.japan-zone.com/modern/comedy.shtml

vibius wrote:LOL! Good luck visiting another culture with that attitude, bub. Here's a big hint: learn to be more accepting and tolerant of different opinions. You think Adam Sandler is funny, some other people don't. No big deal. Life goes on.

I agree 100%... don't bring that ethnocentric bull**** here.

Moteru wrote:
i mean even his worst movie
little nicky
made $100 million in the box office over one weekend
all his movies do

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/#weekends
check where it says "Biggest Weekends at the Box Office"
mmmm i dont see little nicky anywhere in that list

. . . can't stand Sandler's stand-up stuff :D . Some parts in his films are funny. But, that does it for I.

Just peeking around the door here.....Mr.Sandler is not funny for me but may well be funny for someone else.
For me..Ellen Generes is funny because she is witty and can also be silly.

There is someone with the name of Bonny??? She is funny and writes her stuff.

Now...I don't speak Japanese..but I watch a lot of Japanese shows and I laugh my head off with the funny guys..and swoon with romance with the sexy guys. All I can say is that Humour and Sexy don't need translations..and thank goodness for that.


Peggy


Hi Man ;)

comedy not big in japan? Have you not seen Abe Hiroshi? :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

eltinator wrote:comedy not big in japan? Have you not seen Abe Hiroshi? :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

Hell yeah! Abe Hiroshi aka funniest man in JDrama today. :hehe:

Oh, and some of the tsukkomi and boke comedy acts are gold. Take Azumanga Daioh for instance... :beaten: :hehe:

eltinator wrote:comedy not big in japan? Have you not seen Abe Hiroshi? :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

Good point, Elt. :applaud: He had me rolling in the Trick series. :)

Ushiroyubi wrote:lol @ "Adam Sandler" being funny.

Adam Sandler is the most contrived, "funny man" in history. His comedy is juvenile and an insult to the intelligence of most people with a semblance of intelligence. But, that seems to be the theme and commonplace of "American wit" for most people under 30 these days...

Agreed. As I mentioned before, that's the typical "comedy" coming from SNL alumni lately: the big, lovable ( :shakehead: ) doofus. Will Ferrell is currently vying for that position...

Bleah.

when i saw the headline of this topic, i was dumbfounded coz the real reason i watch jdorama is becoz they are funny and crazy as hell... :rolleyes2: :muack: :mrgreen:
but then, i am one of those who think adam sandler gross..i don't think he's funny... i think jim carrey is better and so is ellen generes... btw, all 4 of my bros think stephen chow from the hk scene is the king of comedy

bmwracer wrote:
Good point, Elt. :applaud: He had me rolling in the Trick series. :)

yea and in shotgun marriage also. That dude is too funny

eltinator wrote:yea and in shotgun marriage also. That dude is too funny

Haven't caught that one yet, but I believe you. And he can do the drama/action thing as well, if you've seen Musashi. :)

A HUGE LOL @ this thread :beaten: But I'm gonna make a huge useless post anyway! :hehe:

The title "why is comedy so rare in the japanese entertainment" made me think "HUH?". It's almost as if the person who started this post thinks Japanese don't like comedies and don't like to laugh that much. Maybe it's the title that threw me off, but the rest of the post didn't really ring a bell in my head either to what the actual point of this was exactly. :sweat: But, I'll quote and try to pick it apart:

Moteru wrote:my girlfriend didn't even know who Adam Sandler was
he is by far the biggest comedian in America
i mean men and women worship this guy
my girlfriend told me that there are not a lot of comedy in Japan
and so did a few other of my Japanese friends
i mean not knowing who Adam Sandler is a huge thing
i feel seriously sorry and bad if anyone doesn't know who he is
i guess i'm going to have to spread the wealth when i go over there
i have like everyone of his movies
is there a reason comedy isn't a big thing in Japan
or is it popular and i just got a few peoples opinions

You just said "Adam Sandler is by far the biggest comedian in America" and "not knowing who Adam Sandler is is a huge thing". Firstly, that is your opinion and I don't exactly agree with that :hehe: Secondly, that's JAPAN, this is AMERICA. Although a lot of American entertainment is well-known in Japan, it wouldn't shock me if many Japanese didn't know who he or other people are. American entertainment is not their only source of entertainment. Many don't know ALL of our celebs, just like the average joe in America doesn't know who Akashiya Sanma is, for example, although I think he's a funny Japanese guy. I also wouldn't assume that all Japanese don't know who Adam Sandler is or whoever else's name that may be thrown out ;) And, if most Japanese don't know who he is, not knowing who Adam Sandler doesn't back up a claim that comedies are rare in Japan.

But, a few friends of yours who are Japanese said "there are not a lot of comedies in Japan", so they represent the whole country and know all? All of the funny shows I saw were really murder mysteries? Maybe they were referring to a specific type of comedy? Sitcoms with laughtracks (besides American shows and HR)? Japan has comedies..I studied there, I watched TV there, I've watched movies there. I think maybe someone said this here, but some countries' entertainment may have a different sense of humor than others are used to. For me, I love the "British" sense of humor, which some people call "dry", like Monty Python and etc. But I also love the Japanese comedies like London Boots, as The Man mentioned. My taste varies a lot in general. I also worship George Carlin, Dave Chappelle, Bernie Mac, and Margaret Cho, for some names. :P

Here in the U.S., in my opinion, we have mixture of comedy types and a lot to choose from. I also happen to like, not necessarily love, some of the American comedians who didn't get rave reviews in this thread, and some people's favorites, I don't like. However, I'm not here getting defensive about it because we all have our own opinions and tastes. I see others' points about why they dislike someone/something although I may disagree.

I think I must be PMS'ing. WTF was I supposed to be talking about again? :rolly:

This thread is such a BULL**** :rolly: I just don't get the idea of generalizing an idea that Japanese don't like comedies by comparing the sense of humour generated by Not one of the biggest comedian in the US, namely Adam Sandler.

I disagree to such generalization. I've watched some good comedy films from the Japanese Film Industry. Take a good example of Odoru daisosaen a.k.a Bayside Shakedown..it's one heck of a funny movie. AND yes, I agree that Abe hiroshi is one heck of a funny guy and that also applies to Kippei Shiina who also ables to pull some hilarious acting in a drama or movie.

Basically, I do enjoy Japanese sense of humour as much as I enjoy British humour, dry and sarcastic (Monty phyton, The Sketches Show, Goodness Gracious Me etc.).

Ok. I just end my rant here...'cause I was thinking to myself..wtf is all about anyway..hehehee.. :hehe:

ok my topic was based on the facts that my girlfreind told me
since she lived in both America and now lives in Japan at the point
i'm going to believe her when she says Comedy isn't a big thing in Japan
thats the only resource i can base my opinion on
and the fact my college buddy and soon to be roommate said the same thing
hey, i don't know if comedy is big or not in Japan
its just those two and a few other of my Japanese friends said comedy isn't big in japan
so i believe them and post this add
ok and about Adam Sandler
i ended the topic saying comedy is an opinion
so i'll leave it at that
no ones going to convince anyone whos funny or not
and about me not doing well in Japan
thats ridiculous
i already have a girlfriend over there
and a roommate
and i'm sure i'll be friends with there friends
anyways i also posted
"brag about your favorite jdorama"
that shows i have an open mind
tolerant and excepting of different opinions
by asking about them
it doesn't even need to be comedy for me
just entertaining
so please don't bash on me for my opinions
thats just childish
again this post was not based on my opinion
it was based on what i heard about Japanese entertainment
except for the adam sandler thing
that was just an example between my girlfreind and I
and yes him being the biggest comedian in America is my opinion
no point arguing with me