Yoshitsune - NHK Taiga Drama for 2005

Started by groink · 27 Jul 2004 · 324 replies

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24 Nov 2007, 14:56 #301
bmwracer wrote:Dude! :shocked:

Where have you been?

It's been a couple of years.... At least... :sweat:

It has. :sweat: I had simmered down after I blew up the last time, but life has a way of pulling you away. Months become years and here we are. I can't even contribute much because I haven't watched much of anything since way back when. Glad you still recognize me. :bonk:

gaijinmark,
I saw a bit of one episode, and it looked quite good, even though the actor was kind of freaky. He was portraying Uesugi Kenshin and he looked like he walked out of a manga. :mrgreen: Scene was very well done though. Unfortunately, glimpses is all I can muster these days.
24 Nov 2007, 15:00 #302
Kijinnmaru wrote:It has. :sweat: I had simmered down after I blew up the last time, but life has a way of pulling you away. Months become years and here we are. I can't even contribute much because I haven't watched much of anything since way back when. Glad you still recognize me. :bonk:

I vaguely remember the incident, but I had no idea it would've lasted this long... :sweat:

Good to see an old member return. :thumbsup:
27 Nov 2007, 04:13 · edited #303
Warning! There are spoilers!

Well then welcome back Kijinnmaru =D. Nice to meet you.
Yeah you should check out Fuurin Kazan. Don't refuse to watch it because Gackt is in it. He is alright (I'm at episode 46 now) and all the other actors and actresses are great. Kansuke isn't a pretty boy and is really likeable and Yuu-hime played by new comer Shibamoto Yuki is also great.
Yoshitsune is a starcasting even though they didn't make it too much like in Shinsengumi oO. Shinsengumi was horrible I couldn't even watch the first episode. In Yoshitsune I don't like Tackey: He depicted Yoshitsune way too naive. I doubt, that the real one was as naive as this one. I think the real one was even plotting against Yoritomo. Well and his affairs are reduced to Shizuka, because Yoshitsune needed to be depicted as faithful, because Tackey plays him :rofl:. Of course Yoshitsune NEVER touched his legal wife and never had a four year old daughter (sarcasm xD).
I also don't like some actresses in Yoshitsune: Koiko Eiko who plays the fictional Tomoe Gozen who is unjustly hyped (I also don't like the Tomoe Gozen in legends etc... ). Ishihara Satomi who doesn't have chemestry with Tackey at all as Shizuka.

The ones I liked were: Abe Hiroshi as Tomomori, Nakai Kiichi as Yoritomo, Zaizen Naomi as Hojo Masako, Inamori Izumi as Tokiwa and Nakagoshi Noriko as Kenreimon'in.
In the end I was even on Yoritomos side :rofl:.
27 Nov 2007, 04:22 #304
taku wrote:The ones I liked were: Abe Hiroshi as Tomomori, Nakai Kiichi as Yoritomo

Those two guys are always watchable, whatever they're in... They're really solid "A"-list actors. :victory:
1 Dec 2007, 13:35 #305
I'd add Koichi Sato to the list, except it's hard picturing him as anything but a samurai. I caught a bit of a show where he was managing a hotel of cry-baby employees and I kept screaming "just cut them down!".

I think this Tackey actor was picked to be Yoshitsune because he had that "pretty boy" look that Yoshitsune was said to have. It's interesting because all the actual historical descriptions and paintings of him says otherwise. Funny how if you're famous or legendary, you get prettier as time passes. And from that, writers become more afraid to portray him as anything but angelic.
1 Dec 2007, 15:18 #306
Kijinnmaru wrote:And from that, writers become more afraid to portray him as anything but angelic.

And in Tackey's case, effete. :hehe:
2 Dec 2007, 02:20 #307
bmwracer wrote:
And in Tackey's case, effete. :hehe:

No kidding. I saw the previews when he was leading a charge down a hill. His war cry sounded like someone started the car with a cat sleeping in the engine. I think the Japanese government revoked his man card at that point and banned him from all future samurai roles. :hehe:
2 Dec 2007, 03:46 #308
Kijinnmaru wrote:No kidding. I saw the previews when he was leading a charge down a hill. His war cry sounded like someone started the car with a cat sleeping in the engine. I think the Japanese government revoked his man card at that point and banned him from all future samurai roles. :hehe:

Now the big question: how did he get a man card in the first place? :hehe:
2 Dec 2007, 22:16 #309
When I saw Tackey for the first time my reaction was:"Who is this girl?" xD. Oh my, his war cry was really laughable and I really thought about whether to watch the whole show or not. If you want a serious Taiga dorama watch Komyo ga Tsuji, Fuurin Kazan or Toshiie to Matsu. Musashi was great too. Yoshitsune is just for Takeyfans. I hated Tomoe Gozen so much (can't stand Koike Eiko) and Goto Maki's role "Yoshiko" could have been left out (her halfbrother Yoshitsune only talks to her in one scene and the other scences with her aren't special. Then they just finished her storyline with: "Yoshitsune never saw his halfsister again...". OK Yoshitsune's mother Tokiwa and Kiyomori had a daughter but her name isn't even known.). Yeah and Shizuka ... she probably didn't even exist because she is a figure from myths and litterature. But I think she is more bearable than Tomoe Gozen whose story was horrible. Sorry but what point does Tomoe's story make she is fictional as hell...
3 Dec 2007, 07:54 #310
bmwracer wrote:
Now the big question: how did he get a man card in the first place? :hehe:

Affirmative action? But I'll stop; I was raised not to beat on girls. :hehe:

But back to the show, I think this raises good points for the writers of Taiga Dorama's or any drama. Scripts should not be your "baby". Shinsengumi! was written to be a "Shingo showpiece"; the script was purely for propping up the actor, and I use that very liberally. That was the writer's intention all along. The same with Yoshitsune. It was written where Yoshitsune was the writer's baby, and he must be pure and angelic. Didn't help that neither lead actors were any good, but at least they drew in the automatic fanbase. :rolleyes:
3 Dec 2007, 08:57 #311
Kijinnmaru wrote:Shinsengumi! was written to be a "Shingo showpiece"

I'll say.

I'm surprised he didn't have a bleach blond topknot. :shakehead:
5 Jan 2008, 16:17 #312
Kijinnmaru is that Tackey on yr avi? :sweat:
6 Jan 2008, 14:53 #313
karin-chan wrote:Kijinnmaru is that Tackey on yr avi? :sweat:

It's Masato Sakai from the movie Mibugishiden in what I consider the best and likely most accurate portrayal of Okita Souji. He just slaughtered a whole bunch of guys in a raid. He's also in Shinsengumi! as Yamanami Keisuke, one of the very few "diamonds" in that turd.

If I had Taky in my avatar, I'd have to beat the crap out of myself. :hehe:
6 Jan 2008, 15:02 #314
Kijinnmaru wrote:the movie Mibugishiden

AKA When The Last Sword is Drawn with Nakai Kiichi. :victory:
7 Jan 2008, 01:55 #315
Are you discussing Yoshitsune?
7 Jan 2008, 11:16 #316
Kijinnmaru wrote:

If I had Taky in my avatar, I'd have to beat the crap out of myself. :hehe:


theres nothing about that... Takki is cute anyway, but i cant blame you since yr a guy, LOL
7 Jan 2008, 11:46 #317
karin-chan wrote:Takki is cute anyway, but i cant blame you since yr a guy, LOL

Is Tackey is a guy? :beaten:
7 Jan 2008, 17:47 #318
bmwracer wrote:
Is Tackey is a guy? :beaten:


LOL. :hehe: :rofl:

Oh gosh, this thread got resurrected. :bleh:
7 Jan 2008, 22:53 #319
MissMonika wrote:Oh gosh, this thread got resurrected. :bleh:

"Exhumed" is a better word. :beaten:
7 Jan 2008, 22:58 #320
bmwracer wrote:
Is Tackey is a guy? :beaten:


whatever, haha! :beaten:

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