American Football (NFL, College, etc.)

Started by Geezer · 17 Aug 2004 · 4,773 replies

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9 Jan 2008, 09:51 #2221
Geezer wrote:Wow! I"m hearing on the radio that the Niners have hired Mike Matrz as their new offensive coordinator. The Niners haven't confirmed it yet, but people are talking like it's a done deal.

I'm cool with it.

It follows the George Seifert philosophy; If you can't beat'em... sign'em.

The Niners didn't need a safe, solid, coach to try to get the offense in gear. They need a dynamic nutcase to come in and change everything.


When I heard about Martz being hired, the first thing I thought was how much control will he have over the offense? For example, is he getting carte blanche re: offensive playbook? How much say will he have in whom he wants as his offensive assistants? To what degree will he determine offensive personnel?

Also, how much input did Mike Nolan have in this decision? And to what extent will Niner officials, coaches, players, and fans see this as a head coach-in-waiting hire?

It's an interesting move for a team that desperately needs a kick in the ass on the offensive side of the ball.
9 Jan 2008, 11:38 #2222
shin2 wrote:The BCS championship game was a disappointing end to an incredible college football season. It was disappointing because the game wasn't close with Ohio St. getting thrashed for the second year in a row by an SEC team. And the game itself didn't have that championship aura; even a couple of commentators mentioned it.

It was boooorrrring...

But at least the despised Trojans weren't in it... Though I'm sure they'll be the top team come next season.
9 Jan 2008, 15:57 #2223
shin2

As to control of the offense... what they are saying now is Martz will be in complete control. Nolan even went as far as to say that Martz is the QB expert and he'll be deciding who starts, who plays.

It was also mentioned that Martz would be in charge of bringing in his own offensive assistants... but I noticed that Warhop, the OL coach is being retained. (This is a killer for me. I think he might be the worst position coach I've ever come across. 55 sacks this year? With a veteran line? A man who can't adjust his protections during a game? Come on.)

As of now, Warhop and Sullivan (WR coach) seem to be the only Offensive coaches who'll stay with the team. -- Hmm. Softest Offensive Line in the league... least productive Wide Reciever corps in the league. Interesting credentials.

Was it Mike Nolan's decision to hire Martz? Let's see. A week and a half ago Nolan lost his power over personell. Scot McCloughan was named GM, and according to Nolan, McCloughan has final say over personell, but Nolan, and only Nolan would pick his assistant coaches.

A week ago McCloughan told reporters that Martz was definately not a candidate for the Offensive Coordinator's job.

Today Nolan hires Martz, and then cancels the interviews he'd set up with 5 other OC candidates.

Yup, things are running smoothly in Niner land.

Head coach in waiting? The fans I know, the comments I read on the web all say; NO WAY IN HELL! OC fine. But HC? Not a chance.

But we're talking about something that's Dr. York's decision. So... God help us.

All that said. I sill think it's gonna be a lot more fun to watch the Niners next season. For all Martz's faults... he knows how to design an offense.
9 Jan 2008, 22:07 #2224
Geezer wrote: but I noticed that Warhop, the OL coach is being retained. (This is a killer for me. I think he might be the worst position coach I've ever come across. 55 sacks this year? With a veteran line? A man who can't adjust his protections during a game? Come on.)


Geezer,

Well, Hudson Houck is now available after being fired by Parcells in Miami. Not to sound too hyperbolic, but Houck is one of the greatest OL coaches ever. However, he comes with a pretty hefty price tag--he's one of those assistant coaches who earns a million dollars a year.
10 Jan 2008, 05:39 #2225
shin2

The possibility of getting Houk was the only reason I was interested in the Niners interviewing Cam Cameron. I hoped he might bring him along.

Another really appealing possibility is Mike Solari. The Chiefs let him go because he didn't turn them into an offensive dynamo. But then, that was his first shot as an O.C.

The guy is a heck of an Offensive Line coach. He worked with the Niners for both Coach Bobb and Pat Morris, and then went on to run K.C.'s O-Line. He knows his business.

But we're sticking with Warhop. The guy who created those wonderful Arizona lines of the late '90s. The guy Dallas was more than happy to part with after his 2 year stint. Two years in which the Dallas line was in shambles.

People keep looking at him and thinking... gee, he learned from Jim Hanifan, so he must know what he's doing. But they ignore the results!

Seriously, with Martz's style of offense, and a Warhop coached line... the Niners better carry at least 4 and maybe 5 QBs on the roster this year.
13 Jan 2008, 15:41 #2226
Patriots win again.

Bleah. :bleh:
14 Jan 2008, 00:08 #2227
Tom Brady goes 26 for 28 and this quote from Jaquars safety Reggie Nelson - "He ain't all that" Geez, with an idiot like that in the secondary, how come Brady didn't go 28 for 28?? [/list:u] For today - Go Giants, Go Chargers!!! :woot:
14 Jan 2008, 01:30 #2228
gaijinmark wrote:Tom Brady goes 26 for 28 and this quote from Jaquars safety Reggie Nelson - "He ain't all that"

That's why they're done for the season and the Pats move on. :shakehead:
14 Jan 2008, 06:02 #2229
gaijinmark wrote:Go Giants, Go Chargers!!! :woot:


I'm hoping Giants upset the Cowboys :mrgreen:


Chargers beat the Colts :shocked:


So chances of the Pats winning this year....very likely?
14 Jan 2008, 07:00 #2230
K.T.Tran wrote:I'm hoping Giants upset the Cowboys :mrgreen:

Most of America is hoping the same. :beaten:

Chargers beat the Colts

:puppydog: :puppydog: :puppydog:

My interest in the playoffs has dropped significantly. :shamefulcry:
14 Jan 2008, 07:11 #2231
bmwracer wrote:Most of America is hoping the same.
Those with I.Q.s that go into 2 digits anyway.[/list:u]Edit: I believe Norv Turner now has more playoff wins than Marty.
14 Jan 2008, 09:07 #2232
Giants defeat the Plowboys, 21-17... :victory: :woot: :dancing: :mrgreen:
14 Jan 2008, 09:29 #2233
I think most people out there wanted the Cowboys to win ... they're named "America's Team" for a reason :shakehead:

.. but me personally, I'm glad the local team won :woot:

Go G-Man!! :yippee:
14 Jan 2008, 09:30 #2234
adub2adub wrote:I think most people out there wanted the Cowboys to win ... they're named "America's Team" for a reason :shakehead:

That's a self-anointed name, I believe. :crazy:
14 Jan 2008, 09:31 #2235
Next up for Giants ... the Packers and their cheese-headed fans :sweat:
14 Jan 2008, 09:34 #2236
adub2adub wrote:Next up for Giants ... the Packers and their cheese-headed fans :sweat:

Giants have tons of momentum... And a remarkable road record.

Packers have got to be a sentimental favorite because of Favre...
14 Jan 2008, 09:34 #2237
bmwracer wrote:
:puppydog: :puppydog: :puppydog:

My interest in the playoffs has dropped significantly. :shamefulcry:


hmm.. aren't you from Cali? ... as the local team, wouldn't you want the Chargers to advance??? :headscratch:

Or, are you a Raiders, 49ers fan....?
14 Jan 2008, 09:36 #2238
adub2adub wrote:hmm.. aren't you from Cali? ... as the local team, wouldn't you want the Chargers to advance??? :headscratch:

Yeah, but I wanted the Colts to win.

Guess I'm rooting for the 'bolts now.... :sweat:
14 Jan 2008, 09:41 #2239
bmwracer wrote:
Yeah, but I wanted the Colts to win.

Guess I'm rooting for the 'bolts now.... :sweat:


Yea, me too ... my 2nd favorite team is any team playing the Pats

Those Bostonians have been too spoiled this sports year .... :grumble:
14 Jan 2008, 12:13 #2240
adub2adub wrote:Yea, me too ... my 2nd favorite team is any team playing the Pats

Those Bostonians have been too spoiled this sports year .... :grumble:

They were a couple of years back as well... :sweat:

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