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^^ Problem is none of those dogs can get a second chance. :rant: Also, not just with him, but when any player starts playing well he goes from bad guy to good guy, seems as though their performance level determines how good of a person they are. :confused:

hitomi #1 wrote:^^ Problem is none of those dogs can get a second chance. :rant: Also, not just with him, but when any player starts playing well he goes from bad guy to good guy, seems as though their performance level determines how good of a person they are. :confused:

I guess you haven't seen National Geographic's DogTown. I agree that sometimes we tend to weigh too much on how someone does on the field to determine if they've done good or not, but I also think it is time to move on. Vick served his punishment. What matters now is rather he's learned his lesson or not.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/dogtown/3684/Overview#tab-Videos

^^ No, hadn't seen that video but was referring to the 8 that him and his cohorts were charged with killing. All for giving others a second chance, I've had a few :sweat: , just that so many people think that's he become such a 'great person' due to having a few good games. :bleh:

What Vick did was wrong and there's no excuse for it. But he's not the only person who's been convicted of dog fighting. We just tend to remember him more because he's famous, which also leads to more praise when he does succeed. Personally, as long as he continues to keep up his good play on the field and stays out of trouble off the field, I have no problem with him.

mrsmith10 wrote:What Vick did was wrong and there's no excuse for it. But he's not the only person who's been convicted of dog fighting. We just tend to remember him more because he's famous, which also leads to more praise when he does succeed. Personally, as long as he continues to keep up his good play on the field and stays out of trouble off the field, I have no problem with him.

Yea and so it make things even more worst because he's in the head lights ...



It almost sounds or make it seems like they don't want the guy to do anything he should just stay in a conner and wither away ... but hey thats life for u when ur in the spotlights ... too bad tho I think he should get a second chance :sweat:

ok I don't want to cause any arguments or anything was asking to see what u all will say ok!!! :fingerscrossed:

^^ No problem, :mrgreen: we all have our own opinions, sure we all have our really good points depending on how you look at it.

But for on the field news, Eagles loss could shake things up for this weekend, Bears have now clinched the second seed and get a bye, do they start their regulars against the Packers who with a win make the playoffs? Giants fans can't be happy with the Eagles losing :rofl: as they can only make it if the Packers lose.

mrsmith10 wrote:What Vick did was wrong and there's no excuse for it. But he's not the only person who's been convicted of dog fighting. We just tend to remember him more because he's famous, which also leads to more praise when he does succeed. Personally, as long as he continues to keep up his good play on the field and stays out of trouble off the field, I have no problem with him.

From what I've seen, he's doing more than just trying to stay out of trouble: he's also trying to right the wrong by doing a lot of public service and community work... I think he deserves much more praise for that than his success on the field.

Of course, the cynic in me also wonders if this is just PR stuff and not real dedication to the community....

^^ Not 100% positive but I think those were conditions from the parole office and also the commissioner.

If the Bucs win against the Saints and both the Packers and Giants lose, which could happen, they would be the surprise team that somehow snuck into the playoffs. :hehe: Actually the 'Skins could easily win, what a strange year they've had, 6-9 yet have beaten the Bears, Eagles, Packers, Jags and lost by 3 to the Colts. :nut:

hitomi #1 wrote:^^ Not 100% positive but I think those were conditions from the parole office and also the commissioner.

I wouldn't doubt it... It may be part of his Eagles contract as well.

As the saying goes, only time will tell...

bmwracer wrote:
I wouldn't doubt it... It may be part of his Eagles contract as well.

As the saying goes, only time will tell...

for real :sweat:

so how long before the playoffs and what teams are in for the playoff so far ??

suzzy wrote:so how long before the playoffs and what teams are in for the playoff so far ??

This is the last weekend of the regular season... Playoffs start the following week with the wildcard teams.

bmwracer wrote:
This is the last weekend of the regular season... Playoffs start the following week with the wildcard teams.

oh ok so i had an extra i thought it was the following is th e last week of the regular week ....
Thanks :mrgreen:

Strange there's only games on Sunday this week, :headscratch: don't ever recall that being the case, :bonk: figured with a holiday weekend would still be a game tonight, plus one on Saturday night.

hitomi #1 wrote:Strange there's only games on Sunday this week, :headscratch: don't ever recall that being the case, :bonk: figured with a holiday weekend would still be a game tonight, plus one on Saturday night.

There'll be Saturday games come playoff time, I think.

bmwracer wrote:
There'll be Saturday games come playoff time, I think.

Yup, still remember that snow storm game between the Pats and Raiders few years back was on a Saturday night, bit hazy on remembering it all though :drink: . Game last Saturday, figured there would be one due to so many just lying on the couch trying to recover from their overindulgements. :ill:

hitomi #1 wrote:
Yup, still remember that snow storm game between the Pats and Raiders few years back was on a Saturday night, bit hazy on remembering it all though :drink: . Game last Saturday, figured there would be one due to so many just lying on the couch trying to recover from their overindulgements. :ill:

Sometimes I wish that game never happened. That game gives a bunch of annoying Raider fans an excuse to whine and cry about how the Pats "cheated."

mrsmith10 wrote:Sometimes I wish that game never happened. That game gives a bunch of annoying Raider fans an excuse to whine and cry about how the Pats "cheated."

Similarly, Celtics fans have been crying foul since the Lakers took Game 7 last season...

hitomi #1 wrote:Strange there's only games on Sunday this week, :headscratch: don't ever recall that being the case, :bonk: figured with a holiday weekend would still be a game tonight, plus one on Saturday night.

The reason there are no Saturday NFL games is because it's Jan. 1 when most of the major bowl games are played.

shin2 wrote:The reason there are no Saturday NFL games is because it's Jan. 1 when most of the major bowl games are played.

Ah yes, another good reason. :victory: