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bmwracer wrote:
Hmm, that seems sorta high... Favre is 100% isn't he?

I guess. I don't think he's been having that great of a year though. The Packers are 2-4.

The Cowboys have a better ranked Defense and should have a better ranked Offense (based on yards/play) but don't because they've played 1 less game so they have less TOTAL yards (which is typically used as the ranking for Offense).

gregsan wrote:

I guess. I don't think he's been having that great of a year though. The Packers are 2-4.

The Cowboys have a better ranked Defense and should have a better ranked Offense (based on yards/play) but don't because they've played 1 less game so they have less TOTAL yards (which is typically used as the ranking for Offense).

Favre has had a descent year. Obviously he isn't the best QB anymore but he's still a top 5 QB. The 2-4 record can be blamed mostly on that atrocious defense of theirs :hehe:

eltinator wrote:
Favre has had a descent year. Obviously he isn't the best QB anymore but he's still a top 5 QB. The 2-4 record can be blamed mostly on that atrocious defense of theirs :hehe:

Brett Favre is NOT one of the Top 5 QBs in the league. His passer rating puts him 12th in the NFL and 6th in the NFC.

gregsan wrote:

Brett Favre is NOT one of the Top 5 QBs in the league. His passer rating puts him 12th in the NFL and 6th in the NFC.

You gotta look beyond the stats. Numbers don't always tell the whole story. Let me ask you this, if you had to name 5 QBs to run the 2 minute drill, don't tell my Favre wouldn't be one of them. As far as passing skills go, I'd say only Manning and Culpepper have better arms than Bret.

eltinator wrote:

You gotta look beyond the stats. Numbers don't always tell the whole story. Let me ask you this, if you had to name 5 QBs to run the 2 minute drill, don't tell my Favre wouldn't be one of them. As far as passing skills go, I'd say only Manning and Culpepper have better arms than Bret.

It's not just about the arm. It's mobility in the pocket and a number of other criteria.

I think most people would choose:

-Manning
-Culpepper
-McNabb
-Vick
-Brady
-Warner

Favres too old.

gregsan wrote:

It's not just about the arm. It's mobility in the pocket and a number of other criteria.

I think most people would choose:

-Manning
-Culpepper
-McNabb
-Vick
-Brady
-Warner

Favres too old.

I'd probably choose Manning, Culpepper, Mcnabb, Brady, and then Favre. Favre is a winner, he's proven that already and he also never misses a game. Say what you want about the stats but the guy can still play. I think the problem with a lot of these players is that they have a good year and then that's it. At least Favre has done this consistently. Also as much as I like Vick, I would rather have a lot of other QBs over him. He's still learning the game. And as for Warner... you serious? :sweat:

I think mobility is important and with this west coast offense fever, mobility has been becoming even more popular but let me ask you this. How many QBs can actually throw out of the pocket effectively. And I'm not talking about throwing with good blocking. I'm talking about those plays when you got 4 guys on you and you're gonna get hit if you're less than a second late to throw that pass. Not too many guys...

eltinator wrote:

I'd probably choose Manning, Culpepper, Mcnabb, Brady, and then Favre. Favre is a winner, he's proven that already and he also never misses a game. Say what you want about the stats but the guy can still play. I think the problem with a lot of these players is that they have a good year and then that's it. At least Favre has done this consistently. Also as much as I like Vick, I would rather have a lot of other QBs over him. He's still learning the game. And as for Warner... you serious? :sweat:

I think mobility is important and with this west coast offense fever, mobility has been becoming even more popular but let me ask you this. How many QBs can actually throw out of the pocket effectively. And I'm not talking about throwing with good blocking. I'm talking about those plays when you got 4 guys on you and you're gonna get hit if you're less than a second late to throw that pass. Not too many guys...

I think most of your comments about Favre WERE true...but not anymore...

Warner was #6 on my list...so take him off...you still got 5. Besides...I wasn't listing MY 5, I was listing who I think are generally considered top 5 by most people. Warner hasn't had a good year or two...but mostly due to injuries.

gregsan wrote:

I think most of your comments about Favre WERE true...but not anymore...

Well you have your own opinion as well but I'll take my chances with Favre as a QB. Hey I'm 6-0 in my fantasy league with Favre leading the way, hard to say he's bad but we'll see who wins this weekend.

eltinator wrote:

Well you have your own opinion as well but I'll take my chances with Favre as a QB. Hey I'm 6-0 in my fantasy league with Favre leading the way, hard to say he's bad but we'll see who wins this weekend.

Sports is all about disagreement!!

BTW...I didn't say he was bad...just that he wasn't having that great of a year. And I think he's getting old.

the packers really...really have no one to lead the team other than farve...if farve goes out, say bye bye to the packers

gregsan wrote:

Sports is all about disagreement!!

BTW...I didn't say he was bad...just that he wasn't having that great of a year. And I think he's getting old.

Well I guess this Sunday's game will settle it :P

But if you really want stats on him, he's ranked number 5 this year out of all QBs for total fantasy points and 11 overall. He's about having the same year as he did last year and last year he only threw for 3361 yards and led the league with 32 TD passes. But then again last year Ahman Green was having a good year so that means Favre would have a good year as well. What I would love to see though are the top QBs play w/o their running backs. I always wonder how Peyton would do w/o James, or what if Culpepper didn't have Moss. The only reason why Kurt Warner is having a good year this year is because of the guy who lines up behind him named Tiki Barber. But as impression mentioned, Favre is the Packers and w/o him that team completely dies. That's a good rater on how important you are to the team and usually says how good a player is. Anyways switching subjects to the next debate... best running back in the league? I go for LT, period.

<---- Would much rather defend LT than Favre :hehe: :hehe:

Yes, LT is the best running back in the league. Look at his O-line. Can anyone name one from the top of their head? No. It's about time he gets the respect he deserves, which he hasn't in the past years.

FusilliBernie wrote:Yes, LT is the best running back in the league. Look at his O-line. Can anyone name one from the top of their head? No. It's about time he gets the respect he deserves, which he hasn't in the past years.

Hehe yea, the kid can flat out run and what I like about him is that he can catch too! Not to mention he doesn't complain either :hehe:

Plowboys losing 20-6 to the Pack at the half.

News flash: Bill Parcells goes ballistic at halftime... :hehe:

god damn mcnabb

bmwracer wrote:Plowboys losing 20-6 to the Pack at the half.

News flash: Bill Parcells goes ballistic at halftime... :hehe:

Final score the Pack 41 and the Cowboys 20.

And for the record, Favre went 23/29 (70%) with only 2 TDs and 258 yards. Yea I think Favre is getting kinda old. Only 2 TDs and not 3 right :sweat: How many other guys can do that?

an old man would not throw his body into a 300lb lineman charging at your boy.

Impression15 wrote:an old man would not throw his body into a 300lb lineman charging at your boy.

Damn! I saw that! Ya gotta hand it to the guy: he goes all out to win.


Atlanta gets schooled by the Chiefs, 56-10.... BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :hehe:

Rams get surprised by the winless (no more... :hehe: ) Dolphins, 31-14. BAHAHAHAHAHAHA :hehe:

My Raiders lose again :beaten:

I'm dying her man, dying! :beaten:

eltinator wrote:My Raiders lose again :beaten:

Final score, 31-26, Saints.

Just lose, baby.