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Dodgers win their fifth straight, beating the Diamondbacks, 6-4.

Dodgers five-game streak is over: they lose to Arizona, 3-2. :(

Dodgers lose again to Arizona, 4-1. :(

So I was watching the Dan Patrick show last week when he brought up this question: should Derek Jeter be on the Yankees' Mt. Rushmore? Now, since there are only four faces on Mt. Rushmore, Patrick was saying that if Jeter belongs on the Yankees' version, who would you kick off (assuming that the obvious original four would be Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle).

That led me to thinking who would be on the Mt. Rushmore of other teams with rich baseball legacies . . . teams like the Dodgers, Red Sox, and Cardinals. While I stopped following baseball a number of years ago, I thought this was kinda thought-provoking.

So, who would be on your favorite team's Mr. Rushmore?
(btw, Dan Patrick said he would not put Jeter on the Yankees' Mt. Rushmore)

shin2 wrote:So I was watching the Dan Patrick show last week when he brought up this question: should Derek Jeter be on the Yankees' Mt. Rushmore? Now, since there are only four faces on Mt. Rushmore, Patrick was saying that if Jeter belongs on the Yankees' version, who would you kick off (assuming that the obvious original four would be Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle).

That led me to thinking who would be on the Mt. Rushmore of other teams with rich baseball legacies . . . teams like the Dodgers, Red Sox, and Cardinals. While I stopped following baseball a number of years ago, I thought this was kinda thought-provoking.

So, who would be on your favorite team's Mr. Rushmore?
(btw, Dan Patrick said he would not put Jeter on the Yankees' Mt. Rushmore)

So we're limited to four faces?

Dodgers: Koufax and Robinson, hands down... Snider and Campanella, maybe?

Red Sox: Williams and Yazstremski, hands down...

Cardinals: Gibson and Musial, hands down...

Clemens until recently would have been part of the Sox foursome, not so anymore. :shakehead: Toughie, perhaps Rice, Evans, Boggs, Doerr or Tiant but if the current roster stays together for a few more seasons could see the likes of ouk, Pedroia or Ortiz making it.
Pujois for sure would be on the Cards Mt. Rushmore, perhaps Dizzy Dean too? Lou Brock is a good choice too.

Sox won a marathon last night in 16 innings in Tampa by edging the Rays 1-0. :sweat: Great pitching by all, squandered a chance to end it in the 11th by failing to score with the bases full of ducks and no outs. Another outing by Beckett where they fail to provide offense for him, 8 shutout innings allowing only one hit. :applaud: On the other hand, offense is what they provide that jerk Lackey :usuck: when they got 9 in his start Saturday. Jerk to label him is too kind, in that game where he got the win by allowing 4 runs in 5+ innings made such an a** out of himself, glaring first at Gonzalez and then at Pedroia for failing to come up with great defensive plays, then yelling at the dugout when Francona got the bullpen warming up, then cursing at him when he removed him from the game, can't believe they're stuck with him for another 3+ seasons. :usuck:

hitomi #1 wrote:Pujois for sure would be on the Cards Mt. Rushmore, perhaps Dizzy Dean too? Lou Brock is a good choice too.

I thought maybe Curt Flood, but he was more significant in the player-owner struggle than with the Cards... Though he was a really good player.

bmwracer wrote:
I thought maybe Curt Flood, but he was more significant in the player-owner struggle than with the Cards... Though he was a really good player.

Yes but like you mentioned known more for what happened off the field... name that just struck me which is sort of a no brainer...Ozzie Smith.

Dodgers get shut out by the Giants, 5-0. :(

bmwracer wrote:


Dodgers: Koufax and Robinson, hands down... Snider and Campanella, maybe?

I'd put Vin Scully on the Dodgers' Mt. Rushmore. :mrgreen:

shin2 wrote:I'd put Vin Scully on the Dodgers' Mt. Rushmore. :mrgreen:

Well if we're including non-players, how about Branch Rickey? :mrgreen:

bmwracer wrote:
Well if we're including non-players, how about Branch Rickey? :mrgreen:

Good one. Rickey is certainly one of the top ten most important figures in the history of baseball, and not only because he signed Jackie Robinson.

Walter Alston would be a viable candidate to consider on the Dodgers' Mt. Rushmore as well.

And of course there's the Dodger Dog. :hehe:

shin2 wrote:Good one. Rickey is certainly one of the top ten most important figures in the history of baseball, and not only because he signed Jackie Robinson.

Exactly. :thumbsup:

Walter Alston would be a viable candidate to consider on the Dodgers' Mt. Rushmore as well.

I was thinking Lasorda... The guy really bleeds Dodger blue. :victory:

And of course there's the Dodger Dog. :hehe:

Too phallic. :rofl:

Sox take the rubber game in Baltimore this afternoon by topping the O's 4-0, 95 degrees for the game. :bleh: Ellsbury continues his stellar season by going deep twice, have to put him into consideration for team MVP along with Adrian, seems as when Ellsbury does well so does the offense, he certainly brings so many dimensions to that leadoff spot, power, speed, average, on base pct. :applaud:

Kershaw and Lincecum in a pitching duel... Dodgers lead the Giants, 1-0, in the 8th. :fingerscrossed: :sweat:

EDIT: Dodgers win, 1-0, and salvage a game against the Giants.

bmwracer wrote:
Too phallic. :rofl:

What's that say about Joey Chestnut then? :naughty:

Re: Lasorda--yeah, he's a big-time Dodger name, but when all's said and done, he won two World Series while Walter Alston won four. Only three other managers in the history of baseball won more World Series--two of them were Yankees (no surprise there) and the other was Connie Mack who managed for a brief 53 years.

shin2 wrote:What's that say about Joey Chestnut then? :naughty:

Insert any joke you want here. :rofl:

Re: Lasorda--yeah, he's a big-time Dodger name, but when all's said and done, he won two World Series while Walter Alston won four. Only three other managers in the history of baseball won more World Series--two of them were Yankees (no surprise there) and the other was Connie Mack who managed for a brief 53 years.

Of course, Lasorda didn't coach nearly as long as Alston....

bmwracer wrote:
Of course, Lasorda didn't coach nearly as long as Alston....

Alston managed the Dodgers for 23 seasons, Lasorda for 20. Some other stats I looked up--Alston: .558 winning percentage, seven pennants, and the four world series titles; Lasorda: .526 winning percentage, four pennants, and the two world series titles.

I think Dodger fans under the age of 50 would probably choose Lasorda as being the Dodgers' greatest manager, in part because he was such a visible and verbal presence. He was the consummate salesman-- of his players, his organization, his community, and himself. He did more to promote his team and his sport than probably anyone else.

Alston, on the other hand, was the complete opposite of Lasorda personality-wise, publicity-wise, and leadership-wise. I think Dodger fans who were around in the 50's and 60's remember the calm firm way he guided his teams. Those fans would probably choose Alston as the Dodgers' best manager.

Personally, I think Lasorda was somewhat overrated and Alston notably underrated. But since I also think spam is vastly underrated and bacon ridiculously overrated, my opinions are highly suspect.

shin2 wrote:Alston, on the other hand, was the complete opposite of Lasorda personality-wise, publicity-wise, and leadership-wise. I think Dodger fans who were around in the 50's and 60's remember the calm firm way he guided his teams. Those fans would probably choose Alston as the Dodgers' best manager.

And those were the Dodgers two best decades.