Baseball (MLB, WBC, College, etc.)

Started by bmwracer · 27 Sep 2004 · 5,578 replies

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12 Dec 2004, 04:18 #701
bmwracer wrote:
Well we've got him for two years, so we'll see how bad or good he is for the team....


Arizona's loading up: they picked up oft-injured Troy Glaus and Russ Ortiz... Loks like they'll be back in contention next season....

Angels pick up Steve Finley.... I know the guy's 39 years old, but the Dodgers still shoulda kept him... Dopes.


Yea Arizona is making a come back! I miss Russ Ortiz here still. And Steve Finely was someone I really hoped the Giants would have signed. The only moves we made here was resign some key players and bring in Armando Benitez and Omar Vizquel :hehe:
19 Dec 2004, 09:13 #702
Hard to get happy for A's fans...

First Hudson gets traded this week, now Mulder.


I need a drink, :mecry: :drink:
-PCM
19 Dec 2004, 11:30 #703
pcmodem wrote:Hard to get happy for A's fans...

First Hudson gets traded this week, now Mulder.


I need a drink, :mecry: :drink:

There's no crying in Baseball...!!! :hehe: :hehe:
19 Dec 2004, 16:10 #704
I figured the big 3 will have to get dismantled but getting rid of 2 of them might be a little overboard. Pitching is a premium in baseball and even though they do have Harden, I'm wondering if it would have been a better choice to ditch Zito. Well, on the bright side of things the A's still got an ace in Zito and a very good number 2 starter in Harden. Just need some offense.
20 Dec 2004, 03:25 #705
eltinator wrote:I figured the big 3 will have to get dismantled but getting rid of 2 of them might be a little overboard. Pitching is a premium in baseball and even though they do have Harden, I'm wondering if it would have been a better choice to ditch Zito. Well, on the bright side of things the A's still got an ace in Zito and a very good number 2 starter in Harden. Just need some offense.

Yeah, but Oakland (or any team for that matter) isn't going to be able to survive on a two-man pitching rotation... :(
20 Dec 2004, 10:31 #706
bmwracer wrote:
Yeah, but Oakland (or any team for that matter) isn't going to be able to survive on a two-man pitching rotation... :(


Well I wouldn't say that, we've seen the D-backs win a world series behind the 1-2 combo of Johnson and Schilling. They'll need some descent number 3-5 pitchers in that rotation but the A's farm system has always been good. They still got Chavez offensively and I like Eric Byrnes. They still need another bat though but if Zito comes back to Cy Young form and Harden matures the way he was projected to and say you get an extra win from the 3-5 guys then you can win every 3 out of 5 games and that's a .600 winning percentage right there.
20 Dec 2004, 12:46 #707
eltinator wrote:if Zito comes back to Cy Young form and Harden matures the way he was projected to and say you get an extra win from the 3-5 guys then you can win every 3 out of 5 games and that's a .600 winning percentage right there.

If it were only that simple. :)
20 Dec 2004, 12:57 #708
bmwracer wrote:
If it were only that simple. :)


Well yea they're not going to win every start, you get some wins from the other guys of course and it evens out. But that's basically the philosophy of every good pitching team. The Braves of the 90s pretty much won it that way with their big 3 :hehe: :hehe:
20 Dec 2004, 23:07 #709
eltinator wrote:Well yea they're not going to win every start, you get some wins from the other guys of course and it evens out. But that's basically the philosophy of every good pitching team. The Braves of the 90s pretty much won it that way with their big 3 :hehe: :hehe:

Yet the Braves only managed one championship out of all that. :beaten:

Thinking back (way way before your time, Elt), the Dodgers of the 60's were like that: Koufax and Drysdale were THE big guns (Koufax averaged 20+ wins :shocked: between 1961-1966) and they scored very few runs, yet they won two championships ('63 and '65)... :)
20 Dec 2004, 23:45 #710
pcmodem wrote:Hard to get happy for A's fans...

First Hudson gets traded this week, now Mulder.


I need a drink, :mecry: :drink:
-PCM


Yes, Last week was a very bad week for A's fans. It may make them better in 2006 but ouch. I am very depressed. I never really liked Giambi that much. Loosing Tejada sucked but Hudson and Mulder. :shamefulcry:

It's gonna be a long year. :shakehead: :beaten:
20 Dec 2004, 23:56 #711
Doramafan113 wrote:Yes, Last week was a very bad week for A's fans. It may make them better in 2006 but ouch. I am very depressed. I never really liked Giambi that much. Loosing Tejada sucked but Hudson and Mulder. :shamefulcry:

It's gonna be a long year. :shakehead: :beaten:

Hmm, Elt seems more positive about the upcoming season... :)
21 Dec 2004, 04:14 #712
bmwracer wrote:
Yet the Braves only managed one championship out of all that. :beaten:


1 championship but the team made it every year. I never said it'll work in the playoffs but if it's making the post season, then yea sure the philosophy is great! :hehe:

bmwracer wrote:
Thinking back (way way before your time, Elt), the Dodgers of the 60's were like that: Koufax and Drysdale were THE big guns (Koufax averaged 20+ wins :shocked: between 1961-1966) and they scored very few runs, yet they won two championships ('63 and '65)... :)


Didn't the Dodgers have some other guy also next to Herseisher in the 80s?

bmwracer wrote:
Hmm, Elt seems more positive about the upcoming season...


Well the A's always surprise me every year, especially with their small franchise market. I did a research paper report on baseball's market and personally I'm totally against small market teams. I hate them but I gotta give it to david sometimes. The moves the A's did aren't great but they had to make them for the long term future and I understand why Billy Beane made them. Anyways I hope the Giants can find a bat to put behind Barry this off season. I'm praying for Sosa in a giants uniform as a christmas gift :hehe: :hehe:
21 Dec 2004, 04:58 #713
eltinator wrote:Didn't the Dodgers have some other guy also next to Herseisher in the 80s?

In that amazing championship season of '88, Tim Belcher was the number two to Hershiser, and number three was Tim Leary... I don't remember who their fourth pitcher was... They had Fernando, but he was hurt or something... What a year that was. :woot:
24 Dec 2004, 04:42 #714
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1952146

Looks like I got my Christmas wish of adding a big bat behind Bonds in Moises Alou! :woot: :woot: :dancing:

All right so now we got a big bat, new closer, upgraded defense in Matheny and Vizquel and I like the young pitching staff here. Another middle reliever probably wouldn't hurt. :mrgreen:
24 Dec 2004, 06:53 #715
eltinator wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1952146

Looks like I got my Christmas wish of adding a big bat behind Bonds in Moises Alou! :woot: :woot: :dancing:


Wow, I didn't know Alou was THAT old (38).

Old outfield, old infield... Everybody's in their mid-to-late thirties.

Good luck to the Giants. I don't expect that big a drop in Bonds's IBB, though.
24 Dec 2004, 08:19 #716
Saburo wrote:

Wow, I didn't know Alou was THAT old (38).

Old outfield, old infield... Everybody's in their mid-to-late thirties.

Good luck to the Giants. I don't expect that big a drop in Bonds's IBB, though.


Yea the Giants has always been a veteran team. Even though Alou is 38, he hit 30+ homers last year so if he gets near that, then I'm happy.
24 Dec 2004, 14:57 #717
Saburo wrote:I don't expect that big a drop in Bonds's IBB, though.

Unless he gets banned.

But that's unlikely.


Looks like he's using the ignorance defense...
24 Dec 2004, 15:47 #718
Dodgers are loading up with the bats: first Jeff Kent, now J.D. Drew... :woot: :applaud:

But what about pitchers, guys?? You let the heart and soul (Jose Lima) of the pitching staff, if not the team, go... :(
25 Dec 2004, 08:50 #719
bmwracer wrote:Dodgers are loading up with the bats: first Jeff Kent, now J.D. Drew... :woot: :applaud:

But what about pitchers, guys?? You let the heart and soul (Jose Lima) of the pitching staff, if not the team, go... :(


where's lima pitching now?
25 Dec 2004, 12:38 #720
eltinator wrote:where's lima pitching now?

Unknown. Dodgers didn't offer arbitration, so he's limbo, I think. :(

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