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Clips out rebounded Suns 57-26

Elton Brand 27 points, 10 rebounds
Kamen 14 points, 16 rebounds
Cassell 23 points, 6 assists
Mobley 23 points, 8 rebounds
Radmanovic 10 points
Ross 11 points

qilver wrote:

as expected....

but can the Nets take two at home, and put the pressure back on Miami..? :bonk:

As long as the Nets keep their running game going, they have a chance to take 2 games at home and perhaps win it in 6 games. They lost game 2 because they were slowed down by the Heat, simply because Jefferson isn't running with Kidd and Carter in fastbreaks. But with RJ playing 100% in the next games, the Nets will be like the "Suns-type" team in the East.

qilver wrote:yeah, i was a bit surprised, but happy that the Clips made the adjustment and dominated the boards..and out played the Suns.. :woot:

Series tied 1-1, going to LA for Friday Game #3. :say_yes:

Wasn't able to watch that game. Did the Clippers really run with the Suns? Or did they control the phase of the game and forced the Suns in a halfcourt game?

qilver wrote:

Clips out rebounded Suns 57-26

"No rebounds, no rings" - Moses Malone

Saito_Hajime wrote:

Wasn't able to watch that game. Did the Clippers really run with the Suns? Or did they control the phase of the game and forced the Suns in a halfcourt game?

they did slow it down some, controlled the boards, shot a good percentage, and played good defense...
i watched only part of the game, but i am glad they won game #2. :say_yes: :thumbsup:

gaijin mark wrote:qilver wrote:

Clips out rebounded Suns 57-26

"No rebounds, no rings" - Moses Malone

unless the Suns get K. Thomas back, they will lack in size and interior defense and will have to solely rely much on the 3pt and perimeter game. It might allow them to win some games, but ultimately, it will hurt them, especially if they play a Spurs/Detroit team if they get pass this round.

Initially i thought they would waltz pass Clips, as much as i love the Clips, but now after this game, they made it more competitive. Fact, if the Suns cannot run well, and don't hit pass 110, they will struggle and chances are will fall in defeat.

Miami evens it up with Nets. I thought Shaq played better, but was horrible at the Freethrow line.

Wade was shooting much better.


in yesterday's game...
I am glad Dallas won at SA...

and B. Wallace plays good defense, as Detroit wins another, up 2-0, from yesterdays win vs. Cav's...
but Ben shoots another air ball at the FT line.... :say_yes: :rofl:

qilver wrote:

they did slow it down some, controlled the boards, shot a good percentage, and played good defense...
i watched only part of the game, but i am glad they won game #2. :say_yes: :thumbsup:

I see. Looking at the rebound stat, they didn't just out rebounded the Suns.....the Clippers DOMINATED that category :mrgreen:

Saito_Hajime wrote:

I see. Looking at the rebound stat, they didn't just out rebounded the Suns.....the Clippers DOMINATED that category :mrgreen:

simply put....the Suns will not take the Championship pass Detroit in the East, if they get to the Finals, cause they lack interior defense, and try to solely out-run their opponents.....
it will work against some opponents, and in the reg. season, but against Detroit, and in a 7 game series...esp. against opponents with tough interior Defense like Detroit...Suns will fall...

they are really missing K. Thomas and Stoudamire :say_yes:

qilver wrote:

simply put....the Suns will not take the Championship pass Detroit in the East, if they get to the Finals, cause they lack interior defense, and try to solely out-run their opponents.....
it will work against some opponents, and in the reg. season, but against Detroit, and in a 7 game series...esp. against opponents with tough interior Defense like Detroit...Suns will fall...

they are really missing K. Thomas and Stoudamire :say_yes:

Oh boy, Thomas and Stoudamire are both on the injury list, they sure are out of luck in terms of big men :beaten: . They will definitely miss the service of these 2 men, especially now that they are in the playoffs :sweat:

Saito_Hajime wrote:

Oh boy, Thomas and Stoudamire are both on the injury list, they sure are out of luck in terms of big men :beaten: . They will definitely miss the service of these 2 men, especially now that they are in the playoffs :sweat:

yeah, the only thing they can do is try to out shoot, out run, out score their opponents and rely on the outside shooting....

it is apparent in some games, such as game #2, where they miss and lack the inside presence of a Stoudamire, K. Thomas.

qilver wrote:

yeah, the only thing they can do is try to out shoot, out run, out score their opponents and rely on the outside shooting....

it is apparent in some games, such as game #2, where they miss and lack the inside presence of a Stoudamire, K. Thomas.

If that's the case then I think their playoff campaign is already doomed.

Saito_Hajime wrote:

If that's the case then I think their playoff campaign is already doomed.

i guess they are trying to be optimistic and see what happens...

question is, how can they continue to shoot the 3 and run the fastbreak as they only means to win. it is obvious that they lack defense and interior defense, offense, rebounding: something that a team needs to win a championship and to be a complete team.

Nash has been carrying the load as he is the repeat MVP, and is showing that....but they are still a good team, but not sure if that is enough.

so far, Detroit is the only one that has been invincible in the playoffs, winning their home games and looking dominant as ever...

i have doubt if SA will repeat as champions, they look too banged up..

also, i wonder if Ben Wallace will shoot another airball on the freethrow line again in the next game... :headscratch: :hehe:

no Playoff games schedule for Thursday May 11th...

open to any comments discussion on any of the NBA teams left in the Playoffs..:say_yes:

SA Spurs
Mavericks

Clippers
Suns

Pistons
Cav's

Miami
NJ Nets

qilver wrote:no Playoff games schedule for Thursday May 11th...

open to any comments discussion on any of the NBA teams left in the Playoffs..:say_yes:

SA Spurs
Mavericks

Clippers
Suns

Pistons
Cav's

Miami
NJ Nets

I'm looking forward to the Mavs winning the series, the Cavs to at least win 1 game, the Suns to beat the Clips (if the clips take it to 7 games, that be nice), and the Nets to take out Miami :mrgreen:

K.T.Tran wrote:

I'm looking forward to the Mavs winning the series, the Cavs to at least win 1 game, the Suns to beat the Clips (if the clips take it to 7 games, that be nice), and the Nets to take out Miami :mrgreen:

Mav's look a little less banged up than the Spurs...

and Nets winning Miami, sounds nice...

Clips and Suns...i will have to stay with my team, Clips...

qilver wrote:

Mav's look a little less banged up than the Spurs...

and Nets winning Miami, sounds nice...

Clips and Suns...i will have to stay with my team, Clips...

Yea, gotta support your team all the way.

I'm not much a fan of any team right now....just want the team with players I like to win :hehe:

Since Jordan and Pippen and the awesome Bulls team of them 90s retired, I haven't found a team I can root for all season long :sweat:

K.T.Tran wrote:

Yea, gotta support your team all the way.

I'm not much a fan of any team right now....just want the team with players I like to win :hehe:

Since Jordan and Pippen and the awesome Bulls team of them 90s retired, I haven't found a team I can root for all season long :sweat:

use to like the GS warriors, but lately they been crappy...
even though they got exciting players...otherwise they are subpar in playing...

any other team besides Pistons or SA, i would like to win...Clips, Mav's...Nets....Suns....

qilver wrote:no Playoff games schedule for Thursday May 11th...

open to any comments discussion on any of the NBA teams left in the Playoffs..:say_yes:

SA Spurs
Mavericks

Clippers
Suns

Pistons
Cav's

Miami
NJ Nets

Here are my analysis for the following series:

Spurs vs Mavs - This is one of the toughest matchup in this year's semis. Both teams are equal in many categories, but I have to give it to the Mavericks. I mean, they lost game 1, but in a very tight contest and they won game 2 by a big margin, so it goes to show that the Mavs can take on the Spurs. This series will probably go down the wire (game 7).

Clippers vs Suns - The Suns is a very good team. They have gone through many obstacles this year (especially injuries), and yet they have won games and landed #2 in the West, meaning they can adjust to a certain situation easily and fast. That shows how dangerous they are. As for the Clippers, they are a healthy team with great big men (Brand and Kaman), and knowing that the Suns is lacking with big men, the Clips should take advantage of this. Now this is gonna be a test for the Suns on how they will adjust to this situation. As I said, they are very good at adjustments, so if they could find a way to solve the problem then they will definitely win. Otherwise, they are doomed.

Pistons vs Cavs - No explanations needed.....the Pistons is dominating the series and will win it :beaten: . The only question is how many games will it take for them to finish it off, is it gonna be a sweep or will it reach 5 games?

Heats vs Nets - Another tough matchup. I'm a Nets fan, but I will try not to be biased on this as much as possible :mrgreen: . So here it goes. The Nets is just like the Suns, a running team, but they have something that the Suns doesn't have......good big men. The Nets have Cliff Robinson and Jason Collins for defense and Nenad Krstic for the offensive end, so they can neutralize Shaq. The Heat, well, they are very good at almost every aspect.....except for a running game where they allow many points to an opponent like the Nets and the Suns. Now that's the edge of the Nets. But if the Heat can stop this running game like they did in game 2, then they will win it. The Nets will probably split games 3 and 4. So my prediction, who ever wins game 5 will end the series in game 6

Saito_Hajime wrote:

Here are my analysis for the following series:

Spurs vs Mavs - This is one of the toughest matchup in this year's semis. Both teams are equal in many categories, but I have to give it to the Mavericks. I mean, they lost game 1, but in a very tight contest and they won game 2 by a big margin, so it goes to show that the Mavs can take on the Spurs. This series will probably go down the wire (game 7).

Clippers vs Suns - The Suns is a very good team. They have gone through many obstacles this year (especially injuries), and yet they have won games and landed #2 in the West, meaning they can adjust to a certain situation easily and fast. That shows how dangerous they are. As for the Clippers, they are a healthy team with great big men (Brand and Kaman), and knowing that the Suns is lacking with big men, the Clips should take advantage of this. Now this is gonna be a test for the Suns on how they will adjust to this situation. As I said, they are very good at adjustments, so if they could find a way to solve the problem then they will definitely win. Otherwise, they are doomed.

Pistons vs Cavs - No explanations needed.....the Pistons is dominating the series and will win it :beaten: . The only question is how many games will it take for them to finish it off, is it gonna be a sweep or will it reach 5 games?

Heats vs Nets - Another tough matchup. I'm a Nets fan, but I will try not to be biased on this as much as possible :mrgreen: . So here it goes. The Nets is just like the Suns, a running team, but they have something that the Suns doesn't have......good big men. The Nets have Cliff Robinson and Jason Collins for defense and Nenad Krstic for the offensive end, so they can neutralize Shaq. The Heat, well, they are very good at almost every aspect.....except for a running game where they allow many points to an opponent like the Nets and the Suns. Now that's the edge of the Nets. But if the Heat can stop this running game like they did in game 2, then they will win it. The Nets will probably split games 3 and 4. So my prediction, who ever wins game 5 will end the series in game 6

very good analysis, breaking down the teams and predicting who will prevail....

personally, i would like to see another team take it this year, besides the SA or Detroit...
I highly doubt Cav's will get very far..they look weak against Pistons in the first two games.
also, I think SA is very banged up, and playing injured...esp, Tony Parker, he is their main contributor in assist and opening up for shot opportunities by his dribble penetration, unfortunatly for the Spurs, he is at about 80%, and is slowed somewhat by his injuries.

I also would like to see Dallas move on this year, and take that series. Phx Suns and Clippers, i first thought they would run them out the building, but after watching game #2, i am not sure what to think. You know Suns already lack size, but are better shooters and run the break behind Nash, the best of any team. But it could go either way now...and you know the Suns are going to come out with a vengeance for game #3, but Clips will counter-attack the break with their game plan, we'll see what happens for Friday nights game.