Basketball (NBA, College, etc.)

Started by bmwracer · 6 Oct 2004 · 7,377 replies

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12 Dec 2006, 05:59 #2941
bmwracer wrote:
I'd move to the U.S. if I were you. :hehe:


lmfao.
well on like some days there like a channel were they show a bunch of games in the nba.
but that like about once a week.

some days they like show some games
12 Dec 2006, 15:35 #2942
Now players will no longer have lame excuses for turning the ball over and losing games :beaten: :hehe:

NBA to go back to old ball
By BRIAN MAHONEY, AP Basketball Writer
December 11, 2006

NEW YORK (AP) -- Turnover, NBA.

The NBA will scrap its new microfiber composite ball and bring back the old leather one beginning Jan. 1.

The league sent a memo to its teams Monday, telling them that the change would be made for the remainder of the 2006-07 season. In the memo, NBA president Joel Litvin said that Spalding had 450 new leather balls on hand for use.

"Our players' response to this particular composite ball has been overwhelmingly negative and we are acting accordingly," NBA commissioner David Stern said in a statement. "Although testing performed by Spalding and the NBA demonstrated that the new composite basketball was more consistent than leather, and statistically there has been an improvement in shooting, scoring, and ball-related turnovers, the most important statistic is the view of our players."

Players have complained about the new ball since training camp, saying that it bounced differently than the old one -- both off the floor and the rim. They also said the synthetic material cut their hands.

"For the league to be successful, obviously the players have to be happy. The basketball is the most important thing to us," said a smiling LeBron James, one of several NBA All-Stars who criticized the new ball.

"Like I said before, you can change the dress code, you can make our shorts shorter, but when you take our basketball away from us, that's not a transition we handle."

Stern told The New York Times last week the league should have sought more input from players before introducing the new ball. He also said he would address the players' criticisms with Spalding, the manufacturer.

Spalding president and CEO Scott Creelman said in a statement that his company "will work closely with the NBA to ensure a smooth transition and to determine the best product going forward."

"Now we can concentrate on what we're here to do and that is to play basketball," said Heat guard Dwyane Wade, who was also critical of the composite ball.

The lack of player input about the new ball prompted one of the two unfair labor practice charges filed Dec. 1 by the union with the National Labor Relations Board.

Two-time league MVP Steve Nash, who had said the new ball cut up his hands, wasn't looking forward to the change to the old one.

"After playing with an authentic leather ball your whole life and going to a composite was very difficult, but after playing with it every day you become used to it," Nash said. "It's going to be another arduous time for us to adjust back."

The timing will certainly be strange for the Boston Celtics, the league's only team that plays Dec. 31 and Jan. 1. Since most NBA teams don't hold shootarounds on the morning of the second game of a back-to-back, they will have little time to adjust to the change.

"It's just like the park," Celtics coach Doc Rivers said. "That's what it's going to feel like. Whoever brings the ball on Jan. 1, that's the one we're going to play with."

The NBA made the first change to its game ball in more than 35 years in June. Stern joked at the news conference then that he liked it better because his name appeared on it twice.

But it's been no laughing matter.

Shaquille O'Neal compared it to one of those "cheap balls that you buy at the toy store, indoor-outdoor balls" when the Miami Heat opened camp.

"I'm very excited," James said Monday after the switch. "You see my smile, right? If we've got practice tomorrow, I'll be shooting with that (old) ball tomorrow."

The ball was used in events at the last two All-Star games and was tested in summer league and Development League play.

But the league and the players differed on the way the new ball handled. Though both sides agreed it was stickier when dry, the NBA and Spalding said it gripped better when wet. Players said they had more trouble gripping it when it became moist.

"The players, it was just tough on them because I think (the NBA) kind of just sprung the ball on the players instead of giving them fair warning," said Celtics All-Star Paul Pierce, who participated in the news conference introducing the ball.

"When you're playing with something for so long and then it's time for change, it's hard to accept."

Though many players favored the old ball, the switch during the season could be a difficult adjustment. Leather balls need time to be broken in, while all the synthetic balls were the same and ready for immediate use -- which Stern had cited as a strength.

And though players were happy that Stern reacted to their concerns, there was still criticism from Dallas owner Mark Cuban, who said he learned of the change through news reports.

"They scrapped it?" Cuban said in an e-mail. "I guess if I have to hear about a final decision in the media that says it all. I guess I missed the class where they were discussing the pros and cons of the new ball and the impact of making a change midseason."

AP Sports Writers Jaime Aron in Dallas and Murray Evans in Oklahoma City and Associated Press Writer Travis Reed in Orlando contributed to this report.
12 Dec 2006, 23:39 #2943
Saito_Hajime wrote:NBA to go back to old ball

It was a dumb idea by David Stern to change balls without talking to the players who actually USE the thing... I'm sure it was a money-driven decision and now Stern eats it.

Moron.
13 Dec 2006, 08:01 #2944
hahaha I didn't know so many players disliked it. I wanted to play w/ it once and see how it felt for myself, cause it definitely looked different
13 Dec 2006, 18:32 #2945
bmwracer wrote:It was a dumb idea by David Stern to change balls without talking to the players who actually USE the thing... I'm sure it was a money-driven decision and now Stern eats it.

Moron.


Yeah, NBA is about business too, you know. :beaten:

ak6 wrote:hahaha I didn't know so many players disliked it.


Among them is Iverson. Now that the good ol' ball is back, I'm sure his value in the trading block has risen up since most teams thinks that his 40 points per night (just an exaggeration) game will come back along with the leather ball. :sweat:
13 Dec 2006, 22:36 #2946
ahhh, rockets lost to the lakers.. :banghead:
13 Dec 2006, 22:49 #2947
The_Lyrics wrote:ahhh, rockets lost to the lakers.. :banghead:

:victory: :woot: :dancing:

The Lakes almost blew a 27-point lead in the fourth quarter... :shocked:

And the win was costly: Lamar Odom sprained his knee... :sweat:

Mavericks tonight... And their jerkoff owner Mark Cuban. :bleh:
14 Dec 2006, 06:15 #2948
bmwracer wrote:
:victory: :woot: :dancing:

The Lakes almost blew a 27-point lead in the fourth quarter... :shocked:

And the win was costly: Lamar Odom sprained his knee... :sweat:

Mavericks tonight... And their jerkoff owner Mark Cuban. :bleh:


hahaha, maybe if t-mac would have played... :rofl:

yeah, i really hate that guy too :grumble:
14 Dec 2006, 13:11 #2949
Lakers down 13 to the Mavs with 2-1/2 minutes left... Oh well.
14 Dec 2006, 15:22 #2950
The Nets beat the Bucks 108-95. :victory:

Funny how the Nets still manages to stay on top of their division despite the low win-loss percentage at only 43%. Goes to show how weak the Atlantic division is. :sweat: :beaten:
14 Dec 2006, 23:22 #2951
Saito_Hajime wrote:Goes to show how weak the Atlantic division is. :sweat: :beaten:

The correct term is "pathetic." :beaten:
15 Dec 2006, 06:08 #2952
lmfao.

i hate the nets though :bleh:
16 Dec 2006, 13:23 #2953
Lakers down by six to the Rockets in the fourth quarter, 66-60.

Low scoring. :sweat:

Kobe has 31, no other Laker is in double figures. :shakehead: :bleh:
16 Dec 2006, 13:36 #2954
bmwracer wrote:Lakers down by six to the Rockets in the fourth quarter, 66-60.

Low scoring. :sweat:

Kobe has 31, no other Laker is in double figures. :shakehead: :bleh:


oh please let the rockets win!
16 Dec 2006, 13:43 #2955
The_Lyrics wrote:oh please let the rockets win!

NO......!!!!! :bleh:
16 Dec 2006, 14:05 #2956
Lakers-Rockets go into OT at 89-89.... :sweat:
16 Dec 2006, 14:10 #2957
bmwracer wrote:Lakers-Rockets go into OT at 89-89.... :sweat:


NOOOOOOOOO!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
16 Dec 2006, 22:11 #2958
The_Lyrics wrote:lmfao.

i hate the nets though :bleh:


Well, somehow I understand you. Almost every Canadian basketball fans that I know hated the Nets ever since New Jersey got Vince Carter from the Raptors. :beaten:

Speaking these teams, they just had a match and the Raptors beat the Nets 90-78. :sweat: Guess that is what you call a "sweet revenge", ne? :beaten:
17 Dec 2006, 06:30 #2959
The_Lyrics wrote:NOOOOOOOOO!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Kobe takes control in the second OT period to drop 53 on the Rockets. :hehe:

Lakers win, 112-101. :victory:
17 Dec 2006, 06:45 #2960
Saito_Hajime wrote:

Well, somehow I understand you. Almost every Canadian basketball fans that I know hated the Nets ever since New Jersey got Vince Carter from the Raptors. :beaten:

Speaking these teams, they just had a match and the Raptors beat the Nets 90-78. :sweat: Guess that is what you call a "sweet revenge", ne? :beaten:


lol, i respect carter's game. i just hate how he wanted out...

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