Basketball (NBA, College, etc.)

Started by bmwracer · 6 Oct 2004 · 7,377 replies

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27 Feb 2009, 21:59 #4861
On a much sadder note:Former Bulls All-Star Norm Van Lier Dead at 61[/list:u]CHICAGO (AP)—Norm Van Lier, one of the most popular players in Chicago Bulls history and one of the NBAfs top defensive players in the 1970s, was found dead in his home just blocks away from the teamfs arena Thursday. He was 61.

Van Lier, who most recently worked for Comcast SportsNet Chicago, had been scheduled as a pre- and post-game analyst for Wednesday nightfs Bulls game with the New Jersey Nets.

Comcast officials became concerned when Van Lier did not show up for work and could not be reached Thursday. An employee was sent to his apartment near the United Center on the cityfs near West Side, said Jim Corno, president of Comcast SportsNet Chicago. The employee tried unsuccessfully to get inside.

Authorities responded to a subsequent well-being check and found Van Lier unresponsive shortly before 1 p.m. He was pronounced dead at the scene, Chicago Fire Department spokesman Quention Curtis said.

The Cook County Medical Examinerfs office confirmed Van Lierfs death but said a cause was not immediately known.

gNorm Van Lier was one of the all-time greats ever to put on a Chicago Bulls uniform,h team chairman Jerry Reinsdorf said in a statement. gAlong with Jerry Sloan, he set a standard for Bulls defense and toughness which we will never forget and which we will always strive to replicate.h

Van Lier began his NBA career with Cincinnati in 1969. He later spent more than six seasons with the Chicago Bulls before finishing his career with Milwaukee in 1979.

A three-time All-Star, Van Lier played on five playoff teams.

It was Van Lierfs time with the Bulls for which he was most vividly remembered.

Van Lier was a defensive standout and a fan favorite who was given the name gStorminf Normanh for his fiery play and defensive tenacity.

Part of the NBAfs all-defensive first or second teams eight times, Van Lier and longtime teammate Sloan, now the coach of the Utah Jazz, formed one of the top defensive guard tandems in NBA history.

gThatfs really a shame. He was an unbelievable competitor and a great teammate,h said Houston coach Rick Adelman, who played with him in Chicago from 1973-75. gI really enjoyed the time with him and Sloan at the guards. You really canft have two better competitors.h

Los Angeles Lakers coach Phil Jackson remembered playing against Van Lier during their NBA careers and gtrying to avoid running over him because he always stepped in your way. He was one of those guys that always tried to get a charge and turn the game over,h Jackson said.

The two men were reunited in Chicago when Jackson coached the Bulls for nine years and guided them to six NBA championships.

gNorm was a die-hard Bulls guy,h Jackson said.

Van Lier retired after the 1979 season with 8,770 points and 5,217 assists. He finished among the leaguefs top 10 in assists eight times, and among the leaguefs top 10 in steals per game three times, according to Basketball-Reference.com.

gNorm was a complete player, a wonderful passer, a tenacious rebounder and an original character in the 1970s,h NBA Commissioner David Stern said in a statement. gWe are all fortunate that Norm continued to share his passion and insight as a broadcaster for the Bulls since the early f90s.h
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27 Feb 2009, 22:41 #4862
^ Saw that last night... Very surprising. :sweat:
28 Feb 2009, 09:15 #4863
Celtics pick up Stephon Marbury... Wonder if it'll help 'em...?
28 Feb 2009, 12:38 #4864
Lakers shooting miserably: under 30%... And naturally losing, 90-77, in the 4th to the Nuggets. :sweat:
28 Feb 2009, 13:02 #4865
bmwracer wrote:Celtics pick up Stephon Marbury... Wonder if it'll help 'em...?


Bad move by the Celts IMO. Although it's a low-risk move (paying him minimum for only this yr) ... Starbury has a long history of imploding every team he's on.

Knicks just paid him $21M to just go away. :shakehead:
28 Feb 2009, 13:11 #4866
bmwracer wrote:Lakers shooting miserably: under 30%... And naturally losing, 90-77, in the 4th to the Nuggets. :sweat:


Adding Billups has helped Denver shore up some D-deficiencies ... but this Nuggs team is similar to the one last year ... who gave up the most pts/game. :doh:

Lakers can't blame it all on no defense this time. LA could've/should've scored 120pts. :usuck:
28 Feb 2009, 14:30 #4867
adub2adub wrote:Lakers can't blame it all on no defense this time. LA could've/should've scored 120pts. :usuck:

Not shooting 30%... Unless they throw up a zillion shots. :sweat:
28 Feb 2009, 14:59 #4868
bmwracer wrote:
Not shooting 30%... Unless they throw up a zillion shots. :sweat:
This was just one of those nights. Forget about it and turn the page. [/list:u] Re: Marbury, as a lifelong Celtics hater I'm loving this. I think this is going to turn into a major trainwreck. [/list:u]
1 Mar 2009, 01:17 #4869
gaijinmark wrote: Re: Marbury, as a lifelong Celtics hater I'm loving this. I think this is going to turn into a major trainwreck. [/list:u]

Is it too early to line up and watch? :mrgreen:
2 Mar 2009, 07:38 #4870
Lakers lose to Phoenix 118-111, Kobe has 49, Gasol has 30 and NOBODY else gets double figures. :shakehead:[/list:u] But on the bright side, the Celtics lost again too. :dancing:
2 Mar 2009, 09:42 #4871
gaijinmark wrote:Lakers lose to Phoenix 118-111, Kobe has 49, Gasol has 30 and NOBODY else gets double figures. :shakehead:

Not surprised by the loss: no defense and Lamar completely disappeared from the game... I think they should declare an Amber Alert to find the guy.

But on the bright side, the Celtics lost again too. :dancing:

That did help soften the Laker loss a bit.
4 Mar 2009, 14:04 #4872
Lakers fend off the pesky Grizzlies, 99-89.

Lamar Odom tops his four-point game against the Suns with two points against the Grizz. :shakehead:

Incredible.
4 Mar 2009, 14:48 #4873
bmwracer wrote:
Lamar Odom tops his four-point game against the Suns with two points against the Grizz. :shakehead:
As the late, great Al McGuire used to say in a situation like this, "He got one more basket than a dead man would have." But to be fair, Odom did lead the team in rebounds and assists. [/list:u]
5 Mar 2009, 00:27 #4874
gaijinmark wrote: As the late, great Al McGuire used to say in a situation like this, "He got one more basket than a dead man would have." But to be fair, Odom did lead the team in rebounds and assists. [/list:u]

Yeah, he did... But after all that streak of great games since Boston, he's flamed out in the last two. :sweat:
7 Mar 2009, 13:56 #4875
Lakers rout the T-Wolves, 110-90.

Lamar Odom has yet another big game with two points and five rebounds... That's eight points over the span of three games. :shakehead:
10 Mar 2009, 11:40 #4876
As expected, the Lakers are getting smacked around in Portland, 71-51, in the 3rd quarter. :shakehead:

Those guys haven't won there in four years.... Going on five. :bleh:
10 Mar 2009, 13:52 #4877
bmwracer wrote:As expected, the Lakers are getting smacked around in Portland, 71-51, in the 3rd quarter. :shakehead:

Those guys haven't won there in four years.... Going on five. :bleh:
Ended up losing 111-94, another stellar night for Odom 7 points on 2-5 shooting. :say_argh: [/list:u]
10 Mar 2009, 20:28 #4878
gaijinmark wrote: Ended up losing 111-94, another stellar night for Odom 7 points on 2-5 shooting. :say_argh: [/list:u]


It's gotta be a mental thing with his up n down play. After Bynum went out, he was like averaging 17pts 13rbds .... now.... Lamar is rarely getting 10 of either. :usuck:

Seems most people thought Bynum's health was the X-factor in Lakers winning a title .... yet I feel it has to be Odom's heart and brain, or lack thereof. :shakehead:
10 Mar 2009, 21:59 #4879
gaijinmark wrote: Ended up losing 111-94, another stellar night for Odom 7 points on 2-5 shooting. :say_argh: [/list:u]

Well he'll get to contemplate his play along with Trevor Ariza: they'll probably get suspensions for their lack of self-control during the game. :shakehead:
12 Mar 2009, 00:02 #4880
bmwracer wrote:
Well he'll get to contemplate his play along with Trevor Ariza: they'll probably get suspensions for their lack of self-control during the game. :shakehead:


From the replays, the hit by Ariza did not seem intentional and was a slight knock on the head. It just looked like a bad fall as seen live.

Odom actually gets a 1-game suspension. Given Lamar's recent play ... the DJ might offer more production in substitute.

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