Basketball (NBA, College, etc.)

Started by bmwracer · 6 Oct 2004 · 7,377 replies

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26 Feb 2005, 16:29 #741
eltinator wrote:

All right! Looking pretty good then. As long as he's happy then I'm happy. I heard him and J-Rich are pretty good friends off the court as well so that's always good. Getting healthy is the first priority as we'll be ready and in full force to kick some butt next season! :mrgreen: :woot:

haven't really seen baron davis play the point in the nba, how good was he at UCLA? anyhow, but the addition with Baron davis should strengthen their backcourt, with D. Fisher as a reserve. I honestly hope that they improve to near .500 next year. With a dynamic and athletic scorer in J. Richardson, a descent interior defense/offense and a solid point guard in Davis, they should be able to improve next year. :fingerscrossed: question is what area might they still be lacking and how do they fill in the holes in their defense/offense?? :sweat:
26 Feb 2005, 16:47 #742
qilver wrote:
haven't really seen baron davis play the point in the nba, how good was he at UCLA? anyhow, but the addition with Baron davis should strengthen their backcourt, with D. Fisher as a reserve. I honestly hope that they improve to near .500 next year. With a dynamic and athletic scorer in J. Richardson, a descent interior defense/offense and a solid point guard in Davis, they should be able to improve next year. :fingerscrossed: question is what area might they still be lacking and how do they fill in the holes in their defense/offense?? :sweat:


Davis was a guy I've been watching since his UCLA days. I liked him in college and wanted the Warriors to draft him when he came out but they were too far down to get him. Actually, in that draft they had the 10th pick and tried desperately to move up to get Baron Davis as that was the guy they wanted only. Since they couldn't get any better than 10, they shipped the pick off to Atlanta for Mookie Blaylock. The 10th pick became Jason Terry.

Anyways, kinda funny that they finally have Davis now. As for his UCLA days, he was always an amazing scorer being able to launch the deep 3 and slash to the rim. His 3 pointers in college were about 5 feet back from the college line too. The only knock on him was whether he could hold up physically since he had a big knee surgery in college but that knee seems to be fine except he's had an assortment of other injuries. No doubt when healthy he's an amazing player.

I think the Warriors need a center as Adonal is a back up center but I do like their new bench now. Lots of young guys who were lottery picks and have major potential mixed with some solid veterans :D
27 Feb 2005, 04:23 #743
When healthy...

Man, I hate always having to write that phrase before talking about Baron Davis...

When healthy Baron Davis is a dominant force at the point guard position.

The rest of this season, and the summer will be like a long training camp.

It's interesting. These Warriors are looking an awful lot like the Warriors at the very beginning of the Run TMC era.

The thing the Warriors lacked during the Tim, Mitch, Chris days was a strong inside presense. They could just never find a Center to make it work.

That's why I'll be most interested in seeing how Murph plays the position over the next couple of weeks. He's never played Center before... and I don't think he's all that interested in doing it.

But if there ever was a coach who knew how to teach the Center spot... it's Monty.

And I love the idea of a Center who can stand at the top of the key and rain 3 pointers.
27 Feb 2005, 04:53 #744
Yea a strong center would be nice but then again every team in the league is looking for a strong center so at least we're not alone in that department. Maybe Biedrinis can become something good but I'd give Murph a shot at center for kicks. Although I like him at center if we go with a small line up rather than starting him there. Free agency wise, big Z from the Cavs is a free agent but I don't think the W's have the money anymore to sign someone like him or would want to take the risk on him.
27 Feb 2005, 05:17 #745
Elton

I think the long term goal is to put Biedrinis at Center. He's about 6'10' now, and still growing. And from everything I've read, the guy's whole game is in the paint.

But the rule of thumb is, it takes 3 years to develop a big guy. And Biedrinis is young.

Re; Murphy at Center for kicks. Heck man, that's where I think he belongs. He just has to figure out that you don't have to be Shaq to play Center. There are a lot of different styles.
27 Feb 2005, 06:12 #746
Geezer wrote:Elton

I think the long term goal is to put Biedrinis at Center. He's about 6'10' now, and still growing. And from everything I've read, the guy's whole game is in the paint.

But the rule of thumb is, it takes 3 years to develop a big guy. And Biedrinis is young.

Re; Murphy at Center for kicks. Heck man, that's where I think he belongs. He just has to figure out that you don't have to be Shaq to play Center. There are a lot of different styles.


yup, would be nice too since he can step out and hit the jumper and 3 pointer. That'll cause a lot of match up problems too :D
27 Feb 2005, 08:02 #747
eltinator wrote:Yea a strong center would be nice but then again every team in the league is looking for a strong center so at least we're not alone in that department. Maybe Biedrinis can become something good but I'd give Murph a shot at center for kicks. Although I like him at center if we go with a small line up rather than starting him there. Free agency wise, big Z from the Cavs is a free agent but I don't think the W's have the money anymore to sign someone like him or would want to take the risk on him.


not exactly sure what the warriors are lacking, probably in a lot since their record is not that great....but atleast now they have a good strong backcourt at the point and shooting guards and reserve with J.Rich, Baron, and D. Fisher. Power Forward and Center, and small forward, do you think they should build on these areas and restructure and trade up in the offseason, or just go for someone good from the draft, a big guy to fill up the interior and provide some solid offense/defense. it seems to me they are lacking in the middle area. Adonal is good as a reserve, but they lack the consistancy that great teams have, ie: spurs.
of course it is virtually impossible to trade for a "shaq" like player or even remotely close, but i was thinking....philly has a good point guard with allen iverson and now with the new addition with Webber, their inside game and one two punch is pretty strong now, the warriors lack that, they got a good backcourt, but they need a strong intimating force in the middle or atleast with power forward like a younger version of Webber. Ironically he was once a warrior but got traded away along with other good former warriors.
1 Mar 2005, 04:38 #748
Freakin NBA Champs ruining a guy's debut. How annoying.

Pistons beat the Warriors in Baron Davis' first game with the team.

Okay, so I'm not shocked, but toward the end there, I really thought the Ws would pull it out. It was a good game.

And Davis was as advertised. A star who just needs to get healthy and into game shape.

I"d talk about things looking up... but I don't want to jinx it.
1 Mar 2005, 05:38 #749
Geezer wrote:Freakin NBA Champs ruining a guy's debut. How annoying.

Pistons beat the Warriors in Baron Davis' first game with the team.

Okay, so I'm not shocked, but toward the end there, I really thought the Ws would pull it out. It was a good game.

And Davis was as advertised. A star who just needs to get healthy and into game shape.

I"d talk about things looking up... but I don't want to jinx it.


Yeah, I watched last night's game too. I'm excited to watch the Warriors now... count me in among the crowd that now view the Warriors with hope and enthusiam, an up-and-coming team. :woot:
-PCM
1 Mar 2005, 08:59 #750
Geezer wrote:Freakin NBA Champs ruining a guy's debut. How annoying.

Pistons beat the Warriors in Baron Davis' first game with the team.

Okay, so I'm not shocked, but toward the end there, I really thought the Ws would pull it out. It was a good game.

And Davis was as advertised. A star who just needs to get healthy and into game shape.

I"d talk about things looking up... but I don't want to jinx it.


Looked good and we had some life in the arena. Although some of those calls late in the game were a bit controversial. Warriors played good D but the refs just wouldn't cut them any slack :sweat:
1 Mar 2005, 11:09 #751
Lakers are losing yet another one, looks like they are slipping away from their #8 playoff spot. :beatyou: :hehe:

It will probably take some time for B. Davis to get use to his new team, Warriors hopefully come next season will be running a better team with more "W's".
:fingerscrossed: :applaud:
1 Mar 2005, 11:26 #752
qilver wrote:Lakers are losing yet another one, looks like they are slipping away from their #8 playoff spot. :beatyou: :hehe:

They just lost, 116-115, to the lowly Knicks.

Incredible.

Regardless of what happens this season, heads are going to roll.
2 Mar 2005, 12:13 #753
Cya in the lottery also? :hehe: :hehe:

Well you guys still have a shot. Right now since it's March, it's the annual scouting time for Warriors fans. Fits right into march madness too :hehe:
2 Mar 2005, 13:01 #754
eltinator wrote:Cya in the lottery also? :hehe: :hehe:

Maybe.

But still, I'm happy that Shaq is gone. :beaten:
2 Mar 2005, 15:25 #755
eltinator wrote:Cya in the lottery also? :hehe: :hehe:

Well you guys still have a shot. Right now since it's March, it's the annual scouting time for Warriors fans. Fits right into march madness too :hehe:


Find us a big, Elt.

By the way, BMW...

Welcome to head rolling season!

It's an anual event up in these parts. If you need, I can tip you off on where to get a good pair of Wellies.
2 Mar 2005, 22:50 #756
Geezer wrote:

Find us a big, Elt.

By the way, BMW...

Welcome to head rolling season!

It's an anual event up in these parts. If you need, I can tip you off on where to get a good pair of Wellies.

Wellies?? :headscratch:
3 Mar 2005, 03:05 #757
bmwracer wrote:
Wellies?? :headscratch:


Wellies, I presume, is short for Wellingtons, which are wet weather boots worn in England.
-PCM
3 Mar 2005, 04:06 #758
PC

Yup. Wellies are Wellingtons. Waffle soled, pull on, mid calf, British rubber rain boots. The ubiquitous foul weather foot wear in soggy soggy England. Must have gear for farmers, fishermen, flood workers, and of couse,those who work in abattoirs. (Head rolling season. Get it? It's a joke. And regardless of what anyone says...a damned funny one at that.)

Jeez, BMW. Considering the flash floods and mud slides down in your neck of the woods, I would have thought you'd have two or three pairs in your closet.
3 Mar 2005, 04:14 #759
Geezer wrote:Jeez, BMW. Considering the flash floods and mud slides down in your neck of the woods, I would have thought you'd have two or three pairs in your closet.

Not where I live. The flooding and 'slides are in the hills and boonies.

Closest thing I have are some Gore-Tex laden Nikes... :)
3 Mar 2005, 13:49 #760
Lakers lose again, this time in Boston, 104-101. That's four losses in a row.


I can see the lottery at the end of the tunnel. :hehe:

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