bmwracer wrote:
I've heard the name somewhere, but no, haven't been there *runs off to Yahoo! Maps*
it's basically a japanese version of korean bbq ... it's a chain in japan...there's like 800 throughout japan...they have a great happy hour special where beer is 1 a mug and they usually have 50 percent off hot sake and one food item during the happy hour period that is half off....it becomes incredibly cheap to eat there and it's so worth the price even outside of happy hour but during that time...it's ridiculously cheap...
Tu_triky wrote:it's basically a japanese version of korean bbq ... it's a chain in japan...there's like 800 throughout japan...they have a great happy hour special where beer is 1 a mug and they usually have 50 percent off hot sake and one food item during the happy hour period that is half off....it becomes incredibly cheap to eat there and it's so worth the price even outside of happy hour but during that time...it's ridiculously cheap...
www.gyu-kaku.com
Just checked the map... It's over there where The Home Depot (a do-it-yourselfer's paradise :smitten: ) is.... I'll have to check it out the next time I'm picking up drywall or concrete... ;)
Hmm, you're quite familiar with the South Bay... But you do have friends there, if I recall.
bmwracer wrote:
Just checked the map... It's over there where The Home Depot (a do-it-yourselfer's paradise :smitten: ) is.... I'll have to check it out the next time I'm picking up drywall or concrete... ;)
Hmm, you're quite familiar with the South Bay... But you do have friends there, if I recall.
not as much as i could be...but yes i have some old college friends of mine that are from palos verdes so when i go down there to meet them we inevitably eat in torrance because they're ain't jack to do on the penninsula...it's all homes.
torrance is nice...dayem it's gotta be one of the largest cities in southern california!
Tu_triky wrote:not as much as i could be...but yes i have some old college friends of mine that are from palos verdes so when i go down there to meet them we inevitably eat in torrance because they're ain't jack to do on the penninsula...it's all homes.
An expensive ones at that: the median price is something like $1.8M... :sweat:
torrance is nice...dayem it's gotta be one of the largest cities in southern california!
Guh, I hope not. There seems to be too much expansion here... Getting close to sprawl, IMO... :sweat:
bmwracer wrote:
Guh, I hope not. There seems to be too much expansion here... Getting close to sprawl, IMO... :sweat:
i can appreciate that...the city is already large...why don't you petition the city to add another 300 strip malls and it can look like every other suburb.....ask 'em to throw a lawson or family mart convenience store on every corner so it looks like a tokyo dorama. :nut:
Tu_triky wrote:i can appreciate that...the city is already large...why don't you petition the city to add another 300 strip malls and it can look like every other suburb.....ask 'em to throw a lawson or family mart convenience store on every corner so it looks like a tokyo dorama. :nut:
I think they're doing that already. :sweat:
It appears that any free parcel of land in the heart of Torrance is being turned into townhomes or single-family homes... At exhorbitant prices.
yeah let's not get into that...prices are beyond outrageous. :shakehead:
Tell me about it. :mecry: :shamefulcry:
And about the tip thing Aho brought up before. I'm almost certain it's their subtle way to say: "This ain't Japan. You must tip here." but they forget that it's not mandatory (unless you have 8+ people, then they automatically add it and call it gratuity.... :grumble: ) If you earn it, I give 20+%. Make me happy, and I'll gladly return it.
And about the tip thing Aho brought up before. I'm almost certain it's their subtle way to say: "This ain't Japan. You must tip here." but they forget that it's not mandatory (unless you have 8+ people, then they automatically add it and call it gratuity.... :grumble: ) If you earn it, I give 20+%. Make me happy, and I'll gladly return it.
i couldn't agree with you more.....earn it and you shall be justly paid...
But keep in mind... it varies to a degree depending on the restaurant, but for the most part, in the U.S., waiters and waitresses get low balled in terms of salary, because they figure to make up the difference in tips.
A waiter or a waitress can't make their weekly nut on salary alone.
Then figure in the fact that in most places, the waitresses and waiters suplement the busboy's paycheck by sharing out a percentage of their tips money with them.
I'm not excusing aho's waitress. As I said, she was rude.
But the system does tend to break down when you're dealing with the tourist trade, and people from other cultures come over and don't know how things work in the country they are visiting.
I had a lot of friends who put themselves through college working as waiters and waitresses in S.F. And tourists from countries where the tip is normally included in the bill, used to drive them crazy.
The question was always, how to you let people know that if the service was good, a tip is expected... without being rude about it?
Geezer wrote:Tips
To Insure Proper (some say Prompt) Service.
That Aho's waitress was rude is a given.
But keep in mind... it varies to a degree depending on the restaurant, but for the most part, in the U.S., waiters and waitresses get low balled in terms of salary, because they figure to make up the difference in tips.
A waiter or a waitress can't make their weekly nut on salary alone.
Then figure in the fact that in most places, the waitresses and waiters suplement the busboy's paycheck by sharing out a percentage of their tips money with them.
I'm not excusing aho's waitress. As I said, she was rude.
But the system does tend to break down when you're dealing with the tourist trade, and people from other cultures come over and don't know how things work in the country they are visiting.
I had a lot of friends who put themselves through college working as waiters and waitresses in S.F. And tourists from countries where the tip is normally included in the bill, used to drive them crazy.
The question was always, how to you let people know that if the service was good, a tip is expected... without being rude about it?
hm... maybe leave a dime as tip? wait no.... a nickel sounds more reasonable... with a note saying why you didnt enjoy the service
K.T.Tran wrote:One thing i love bout Vietnamese restuarants, the tip is either $1-$5
at least thats how it's always been whenever i go to one with family and friends
That brings about two oddball stories:
I had this officemate three jobs ago who had to calculate the tip down to the exact penny... He always carried his calculator with him. Really smart and nice guy, but come on... :hehe:
There was another guy who would NEVER tip: when we went out as a group, he relied on everyone else over-tipping, so he just paid for the cost of his meal... :shakehead:
Both of these guys were senior engineers hauling in big bucks (relatively) and they were so anal about tips... Guh. :bleh:
Geezer wrote:The question was always, how to you let people know that if the service was good, a tip is expected... without being rude about it?
Good question....my answer.....One friendly reminder either b4 taking order or write it on paper along with the bill....jus one friendly reminder not many
That or a sign outside the restuarant to let those from other countries know how the system work???
bmwracer wrote:
That brings about two oddball stories:
I had this officemate three jobs ago who had to calculate the tip down to the exact penny... He always carried his calculator with him. Really smart and nice guy, but come on... :hehe:
There was another guy who would NEVER tip: when we went out as a group, he relied on everyone else over-tipping, so he just paid for the cost of his meal... :shakehead:
Both of these guys were senior engineers hauling in big bucks (relatively) and they were so anal about tips... Guh. :bleh:
dayem that's fuggin' lame....that one fool NEVER tipped...i would have threw that shiet in his face a couple of times at least.....and he's engineer....
that's what the japanese call KECHI...SUGOKU......
Tu_triky wrote:dayem that's fuggin' lame....that one fool NEVER tipped...i would have threw that shiet in his face a couple of times at least.....and he's engineer....
that's what the japanese call KECHI...SUGOKU......
Initially, a couple of people mentioned it to him on different occasions, but it didn't phase him a bit... So we stopped inviting him when the bunch of us went out...
Oh, and they guy also had money: his family lived in Cheviot Hills, a pretty affluent part of the Westside... I guess you can get rich by not tipping people. Heh.
In Japanese restaurants the tips is included in the bill.
When I was a kid tips were 10% min. 15% max in U.S. restaurants. Now 20% is considered minimum.
There is no standardization.
Best bet to avoid having an experience like aho's... when eating at a new place, or while traveling... ask what the custom is. The manager, the host, the waiter will be glad to tell you.
bmwracer wrote:
Initially, a couple of people mentioned it to him on different occasions, but it didn't phase him a bit... So we stopped inviting him when the bunch of us went out...
Oh, and they guy also had money: his family lived in Cheviot Hills, a pretty affluent part of the Westside... I guess you can get rich by not tipping people. Heh.
good move....leave the cheapskate at home....if he's got all that loot, why should his working colleagues have to pick up the slack......plain rude.....
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