Food, Food, and More Food Thread

bmwracer wrote:
Was it any good?

Not bad. I was pleasantly surprised. It was a little strange the included Tomato's, and Mustard. I gave my wife the tomatoes (Yuck) but overall pretty tasty. I only eat fast food about once a month now trying to cut down.

Friday breakfast is:

Sam's Club cake, w/whipped topping (Boss's Day is tomorrow, plus someboty's b-day today too [no, not The Man's; like you care])

Blue Diamond almonds.

12 oz. black tea.

Doramafan113 wrote:Not bad. I was pleasantly surprised. It was a little strange the included Tomato's, and Mustard. I gave my wife the tomatoes (Yuck) but overall pretty tasty. I only eat fast food about once a month now trying to cut down.

Tomatoes and mustard? The burger maker (a kid ?) got a little overzealous, I think...

The Man wrote:Friday breakfast is:

Sam's Club cake, w/whipped topping (Boss's Day is tomorrow, plus someboty's b-day today too [no, not The Man's; like you care])

Blue Diamond almonds.

12 oz. black tea.

The Man's pretty consistent with the black tea... Reasons aside from the obvious (e.g. taste)?

bmwracer wrote:
The Man's pretty consistent with the black tea... Reasons aside from the obvious (e.g. taste)?

Aha! Yes, well . . . yes, you hit it on the head as you normally do, BMWRacer -- I DO like the taste. I do not add sugar. I do not like coffee. Black tea has much caffeine. Has anti-oxidents.

I drink it in one of those Nissan Thermos tumblers. Stays hot all day, almost (so BE careful), but, I tell you, at least for me, drinking that black tea in that tumbler has kept me healthy enough to keep healthy and rarely be sick (e.g., you know those recent news stories 'bout "limited flu vaccines" being available? "I go HAH!!!! I got black tea!")

Thanks for asking, BMWRacer.

The Man wrote:Aha! Yes, well . . . yes, you hit it on the head as you normally do, BMWRacer -- I DO like the taste. I do not add sugar. I do not like coffee. Black tea has much caffeine. Has anti-oxidents.

I would think it would be bitter...

Does it have more antioxidants than green tea?

bmwracer wrote:Does it have more antioxidants than green tea?

Ah, good question. I don't think so. I think green tea rules in that respect. Green tea has more "healing factors," too if you're into that kinda' thing.

Funny, I can only drink green tea w/Japanese food. Gomen.

The Man wrote:I don't think so.

Honto ni??

Can we get a ruling from someone? Gregsan???

Oh, yeah, I mean, I don't doubt that green tea is more healthy, but, in terms of drinking down something daily, each morning? Black tea's the most perfect fit for I.

But, yeah, any experts out there?

The Man wrote:Oh, yeah, I mean, I don't doubt that green tea is more healthy, but, in terms of drinking down something daily, each morning? Black tea's the most perfect fit for I.

But, yeah, any experts out there?

Yeah, I'm for Gregsan to step in, since he's the closest to a medical person here.... :0

I want to hear the outcome on this too! I am leaning towards Green Tea myself.

bmwracer wrote:
Yeah, I'm for Gregsan to step in, since he's the closest to a medical person here.... :0

Hmmm...tea's not really my specialty (my dissertation is on HIV and anti-retroviral drugs)...but I've heard (just in general discussions - not in scientific circles) more related to green tea. I'll do a journal search and see what I can find...

Hey hey! Our resident epidemiologist made it! :applaud:

I did a quick looksie on the 'net and one site said that green tea has more antioxidants than black tea, but black tea has more flavonoids/polyphenols than green tea...

bmwracer wrote:Hey hey! Our resident epidemiologist made it! :applaud:

I did a quick looksie on the 'net and one site said that green tea has more antioxidants than black tea, but black tea has more flavonoids/polyphenols than green tea...[emphasis mine.]

Ah, yes, b-tea is supposed to be good for fending off heart disease and cancer as well.

bmwracer wrote:Hey hey! Our resident epidemiologist made it! :applaud:

I did a quick looksie on the 'net and one site said that green tea has more antioxidants than black tea, but black tea has more flavonoids/polyphenols than green tea...

Yeah. A study I found showed Green Tea had a 70.1% level of antioxidant activity compared to Black Tea of 52%. Grape Seed Extract beats them both with 86.3% antioxidant activity, Vitamin E: 90.3% and TBHQ (a new high performance food anti-oxidant - a supplement?): 97.7% !!

As BMW mentions however, it all depends on what you're looking for since different foods, teas, etc...will be better at some things and not as good for others. I guess you just have to eat/drink everything!!!

gregsan wrote:I guess you just have to eat/drink everything!!!

See, I knew there was a reason I hardly got sick. :hehe:

Thanks for your research, gregsan.

gregsan wrote:Yeah. A study I found showed Green Tea had a 70.1% level of antioxidant activity compared to Black Tea of 52%. Grape Seed Extract beats them both with 86.3% antioxidant activity, Vitamin E: 90.3% and TBHQ (a new high performance food anti-oxidant - a supplement?): 97.7% !!

As BMW mentions however, it all depends on what you're looking for since different foods, teas, etc...will be better at some things and not as good for others. I guess you just have to eat/drink everything!!!

Thanks, Greg... Love that scientific info...! :D

bmwracer wrote:
Thanks, Greg... Love that scientific info...! :D

Excerpts from another article looking at the health effects of teas:

Tea that contains many antioxidants is a pleasant and safe drink that is enjoyed by people across the globe.
Tea leaves are manufactured as black, green, or oolong. Black tea represents ~78% of total consumed tea in
the world, whereas green tea accounts for ~20% of tea consumed. The concept of guse of tea for promotion of
human health and prevention and cure of diseasesh has become a subject of intense research in the last decade.
Diseases for which tea drinkers appear to have lower risk are simple infections, like bacterial and viral, to
chronic debilitating diseases, including cancer, coronary heart disease, stroke, and osteoporosis. Initial work
on green tea suggested that it possesses human health-promoting effects. In recent years, the research efforts
have been expanded to black tea as well. Research conducted in recent years reveals that both black and green
tea have very similar beneficial attributes in lowering the risk of many human diseases, including several
types of cancer and heart diseases. For cancer prevention, evidence is so overwhelming that the Chemoprevention
Branch of the National Cancer Institute has initiated a plan for developing tea compounds as cancerchemopreventive
agents in human trials. Thus, modern medical research is confirming the ancient wisdom
that therapy of many diseases may reside in an inexpensive beverage in a gteapot.h

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Beneficial Effects of Tea Consumption:
-Cardiovascular (strong effects)
-Cancer (population dependent)
-Diabetes (research is suggestive)
-Obesity (research is suggestive)
-Osteoporosis (some effects)
-Arthritis (research is suggestive)
-Neurological (some effects)
-Bacterial (research is suggestive)

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Tea, which on average accounts for 40% of our daily fluid
intake, helps to replace fluids that are lost through day-to-day
activities, which is why doctors recommend that we drink at
least 1.5 liters of fluid per day to prevent dehydration. But
perhaps the most important reason to drink plenty of tea is
that it helps people maintain enough water in their tissues.
This is especially important during the hot summer time. Active,
outdoors people and the elderly are particularly prone to
dehydration if they are overly exposed to hot temperatures.
Tea is a naturally refreshing drink and has no calorie value
when taken without milk and sugar. When taken with milk,
which is a popular way of tea consumption globally, four cups
of tea a day can provide significant amounts of the following
nutrients: approximately 17% of the recommended intake for
calcium, 5% for zinc, 22% for vitamin B2, 5% for folic acid,
and trace amounts of vitamins B1 and B6.

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Thus, the concept of tea as a cancer chemopreventive
agent has gained much attention. All teas—green, black, and
oolong—are considered to have health-promoting potential....

Among the different types of teas, the beneficial effects of
green tea are much clearer because most tea-research work
has been done with it. Based on the available data, it appears
that black tea possesses similar beneficial effects....

However, as elaborated in
this article, there is a reason to believe that the consumption
of tea may have health-promoting effects in humans due to
the presence of polyphenols that are novel for the chemoprevention
of various diseases. Perhaps the most important reason
to drink plenty of tea is that it also helps people to maintain
enough water in their tissues. We believe that there is
still a long way to go as far as the research on the healthpromoting
effect of tea is concerned. The challenge for the future
is to interpret what diseases and which populations could
benefit most by consuming tea or its bioactive components....

citation:
Antioxidants of the beverage tea in promotion of human health.
Antioxid Redox Signal. 2004 Jun;6(3):571-82.
(if anyone wants a copy let me know and I can e-mail you a pdf)

Conclusion: I guess you guys convinced me to drink more tea. :woot:

BTW...my favorite green tea is Matcha Genmai with the brown rice and popcorn in it!!! Oishii!!

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gregsan wrote:

Conclusion: I guess you guys convinced me to drink more tea. :woot:

Wow me too. Thanks for the reseach! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: