Kanji Practice

Started by dampwashcloth · 10 Feb 2005 · 27 replies

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22 Jul 2005, 19:10 #21
tInoltin wrote:erm...just wanna ask.. does japanese kanji n chinese kanji the same???


I think japanese kanji is derived from traditional chinese and there is no chinese kanji..just japanese kanji. Chinese is mandarin.

I haven't learn any kanji yet but whenever i stumble onto kanji, i pronounce them as chinese words :sweat: eg. ’j—(dan jo) in kanji is male and female. But that word in chinese hanyu pinyin is nan (2) nu (sorry the particular u just won't appear here so I substituted u) (3)..which also has the same meaning. :beaten:
23 Jul 2005, 02:42 #22
sashimi wrote:

I think japanese kanji is derived from traditional chinese and there is no chinese kanji..just japanese kanji. Chinese is mandarin.

I haven't learn any kanji yet but whenever i stumble onto kanji, i pronounce them as chinese words :sweat: eg. ’j—(dan jo) in kanji is male and female. But that word in chinese hanyu pinyin is nan (2) nu (sorry the particular u just won't appear here so I substituted u) (3)..which also has the same meaning. :beaten:


Well, kind of.

There IS Chinese kanji. The word 'kanji' comes from the Mandarin pronunciation - 'hanzi'. Not only that, Chinese consists of way more dialects than just Mandarin. There's Cantonese, Taiwanese, Hakka, and many others.
You're right about it being derived from traditional Chinese, though.
many of the words that Japanese used, such as –Ú(me) for "eye," are classical words in Chinese. The characters for "eye" in Mandarin are ŠááË(yanjing). This is because Chinese characters were imported from China beginning in (don't quote me on this date) around 700AD.
Obviously, when a language borrows a writing system, and then the language and writing systems of both develop separately, they are going to evolve in different ways. This not only changes in what used to be the same characters, but also differences in meanings.

All that aside, the fact is is that many Japanese can look at Chinese and get the gist of what the sentence says, and Chinese can do the same with Japanese. Something like English and Spanish; we use (basically) the same alphabet, but that doesn't mean that an English speaker can read Spanish perfectly or the other way around.

HTH,

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30 Jan 2007, 05:28 #23
I'm currently learning the joyo kanji by grade.

The kunyomi is proving to be easier to learn than the onyomi.

I think its because I can relate a character to a word, as opposed to trying to relate a character to a syllable (sound).

Does anybody have any suggestions on how to learn the onyomi?
24 Jun 2007, 05:36 #24
does anyone know what are the meanings of this character are: ‹Ê@. ive seen it used like this: ‹ÊŽq as egg (tamago if im not mistaken). however i thought tamago was: —‘Bperhaps there are two ways to write it? well i was just hoping someone could clarify this for me. thank you. hopefully this is the right place to post my kanji question
24 Jun 2007, 10:26 #25
ShhHimitsu wrote:does anyone know what are the meanings of this character are: ‹Ê@. ive seen it used like this: ‹ÊŽq as egg (tamago if im not mistaken). however i thought tamago was: —‘Bperhaps there are two ways to write it? well i was just hoping someone could clarify this for me. thank you. hopefully this is the right place to post my kanji question
Lots: Žì‹Ê@i‚µ‚ガ‚å‚­j shugyoku - jewel, gem it can also be used for various round objects: tamago you mentioned earlier, also there's –ڋʁ@i‚ß‚¾‚܁j medama - eyeball,@‹Ê”K@i‚½‚Ü‚‡‚Ë‚¬j tamanegi - onion [/list:u]
24 Jun 2007, 12:10 #26
gaijinmark wrote: Lots: Žì‹Ê@i‚µ‚ガ‚å‚­j shugyoku - jewel, gem it can also be used for various round objects: tamago you mentioned earlier, also there's –ڋʁ@i‚ß‚¾‚܁j medama - eyeball,@‹Ê”K@i‚½‚Ü‚‡‚Ë‚¬j tamanegi - onion [/list:u]

ooohh, i get it now! thanks gaijinmark, i knew some of those words but i never knew the kanji for them. hmmm maybe i should study more :bonk:
5 Jan 2008, 05:27 #27
does anyone know how this would be pronounced? â‘̐▽

*EDIT* sorry, nevermind i found out its ‚º‚Á‚½‚¢‚º‚‚߂¢
11 Feb 2008, 18:18 #28
ShhHimitsu wrote:does anyone know what are the meanings of this character are: ‹Ê@. ive seen it used like this: ‹ÊŽq as egg (tamago if im not mistaken). however i thought tamago was: —‘Bperhaps there are two ways to write it? well i was just hoping someone could clarify this for me. thank you. hopefully this is the right place to post my kanji question


Even though this is quite old... I got an explanation for the second part^^
Both are possible. While —‘ is the "normal" kanji for "egg",@‹ÊŽq is nearly exclusive used at the egg-boxes in supermarkets (it is a bit of a pun on the look and the "being" of an egg); I think ‹ÊŽq is an more archaic form, but I'm not completely sure...[/quote]

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