Movies! Movies! Movies! (Non-Japanese)

Old, old anime, Wyn-chan. It was around before the word "Anime" came into popular use - like Astro Boy.

Anime Dad wrote:Old, old anime, Wyn-chan. It was around before the word "Anime" came into popular use - like Astro Boy.

Or Gigantor. :)

bmwracer wrote:
Or Gigantor. :)

Jeez beem, that dates you :) What about Kimba the White Lion?? :)

Wow... okies. Now I feel young. :doh:

For all you SoCal people, Newport Beach is hosting a film festival. Here's the info:

Website: http://www.newportbeachfilmfest.com/

Event: 8th Annual Newport Beach Film Festival

Where: Edwards Island Cinema, Fashion Island - Newport Beach, Calif
999 Newport Center Dr., Newport Beach, California 92660

Ticket Prices: $10 (if you buy it online, there's a $2 service charge)

Wynter wrote:
I've been turned off of Comic-turn-film movies ever since the disgrace that is the X-Men series. The only movies worth their praise is The Hulk, Spider-Man, and Batman (Batman and Batman Returns, to the exact). The Trailor looks cool for Ghost Rider but I have the feeling I'll be disappointed in plot and origins. This is what happens when you're a die-hard comic fan. :doh: :sweat:

X-Men is terrible. But at the same time, I can't not watch them. It's like going by some terrible accident and finding yourself unable to look away. I go, every time, the first day the movie is out, and leave screaming at everyone demanding an explanation why my favorite childhood characters are being butchered in such a terrible way. I am still waiting for an answer.

Spider-Man is alright, though they've completely wimped out some of the coolest villains out there. (Then again, it's nothing compared to the desecration of Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four, so I'll let it slide).

The first two Batman films were amazing (something about Jack Nicholson as the Joker just gets me every time). The latest Batman film was good in that it returned to making Batman the strong dark type he's supposed to be rather than the laughably fake character that the movies had begun to make him as. The downside? It substantially deviated from canon and the idea of Katie Holmes as Batman's girl makes me want to hurl.

Ghost Rider is just one of those films they should have avoided at all cost. Not to mention that Nicolas Cage? As the ghost rider? What?! And, more importantly, WHY!? Talk about a miss!

Other movies of this genre that should not have been made include (but are not limited to) Electra and Cat Woman.

Finally, my thoughts on the Hulk. Though they put up a valiant effort in showing a substantial amount of original story (much more than the Spider man movies have been able to do), the exaggerated acting and awkward CG characters made it a miss for me. That said, I adored some of the monologues in this movie and the scene changes using comic book panels was nothing short of ingenius.


OH! And the best Graphic Novel Adaptation Award Goes to: *drum roll*
V For Vendetta
(soooo hot!)

Anime Dad wrote:Jeez beem, that dates you :) What about Kimba the White Lion?? :)

Yup.

Interestingly, a decade or so later, I was watching Raideen and Getter Robo G in our local international station, which still exists to this day... :)

serilia wrote:Spider-Man is alright, though they've completely wimped out some of the coolest villains out there. (Then again, it's nothing compared to the desecration of Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four, so I'll let it slide).

so youre saying F4 is better than Spiderman? WTH? :beaten:

speaking of Spiderman 3. ive got my tickets for the advance screening her ein our country which is in May 1. YATTA!!!

let's see if the movie is good as its trailer.

serilia wrote:Spider-Man is alright, though they've completely wimped out some of the coolest villains out there. (Then again, it's nothing compared to the desecration of Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four, so I'll let it slide).

OH! And the best Graphic Novel Adaptation Award Goes to: *drum roll*
V For Vendetta
(soooo hot!)

It amazes me that people post their opinions without elaborating at all on why movies/characters/stories are bad/good... :shakehead:

bmwracer wrote:
It amazes me that people post their opinions without elaborating at all on why movies/characters/stories are bad/good... :shakehead:

given that my post was already long enough, I figured I'd keep it down to the bare essentials. That is to say, I thought Spiderman was an alright movie but I disliked how they portrayed the goblin. He was one of my favorite villains and I feel that the suit he wore looked cartoonist in a bad way. It was hard to take him seriously with that outfit. Not to mention that he's some odd mix between the hod goblin and green goblin in the way he fights which confused me (a big fan of the comics). For an average audience, maybe these issues aren't that big of a deal, but for me it was. On the other hand, I liked that the changed spider man's web to something natural to the transformation rather than something Peter Parker builds like in the comic.

As for my comment on Doctor Doom, he is one of the strongest villains in the comic universe and I think they didn't do him justice. He presents himself as so irrational he does stupid mistakes, his transformation into doctor doom was underdeveloped, and his outfit was also laughable.

Finally, I didn't think I needed much explanation for why I think V For Vendetta is the best adaptation from a graphic novel into a movie. However, if you insist, the reason is because they were able to take the main purpose of the original and transform it into almost a new story while still keeping faithful to the intent. It makes for two very strong pieces that are independently worth while even if one has seen the other. Not to mention that the acting was superb and the effects and fights scenes were nothing short of breathtaking.

Thanks for the elaboration... Now I can reply. :)

serilia wrote:given that my post was already long enough, I figured I'd keep it down to the bare essentials. That is to say, I thought Spiderman was an alright movie but I disliked how they portrayed the goblin. He was one of my favorite villains and I feel that the suit he wore looked cartoonist in a bad way. It was hard to take him seriously with that outfit. Not to mention that he's some odd mix between the hod goblin and green goblin in the way he fights which confused me (a big fan of the comics). For an average audience, maybe these issues aren't that big of a deal, but for me it was. On the other hand, I liked that the changed spider man's web to something natural to the transformation rather than something Peter Parker builds like in the comic.

Yeah, I didn't like the Green Goblin at all, either, which is why I thought the first movie was only okay... And the CG was mediocre compared to the second movie which was very good.

As far as the web spinners goes, I ALWAYS hated the organic web shooters... I don't understand why they couldn't allow Peter Parker to be smart enough to invent the web shooters himself... I mean if they really wanted to be organic/natural shouldn't the webs be coming out of his ass?? :beaten:

As for my comment on Doctor Doom, he is one of the strongest villains in the comic universe and I think they didn't do him justice. He presents himself as so irrational he does stupid mistakes, his transformation into doctor doom was underdeveloped, and his outfit was also laughable.

I agree with you on Doc Doom, but the entire FF movie was a joke anyways: Jessica Alba was the only saving grace, but not worth the prioce of admission... I'm surprised a sequel even got made.

Finally, I didn't think I needed much explanation for why I think V For Vendetta is the best adaptation from a graphic novel into a movie. However, if you insist, the reason is because they were able to take the main purpose of the original and transform it into almost a new story while still keeping faithful to the intent. It makes for two very strong pieces that are independently worth while even if one has seen the other. Not to mention that the acting was superb and the effects and fights scenes were nothing short of breathtaking.

So desu.

Thanks for elaborating here as well... It helps justify your claims... I haven't read the graphic novel....

bmwracer wrote:As far as the web spinners goes, I ALWAYS hated the organic web shooters... I don't understand why they couldn't allow Peter Parker to be smart enough to invent the web shooters himself... I mean if they really wanted to be organic/natural shouldn't the webs be coming out of his ass?? Beaten

OH god. I just laughed myself silly for about five minutes at the idea of the webs coming out of his ass. I might never recover.


That said, as much as I love the genius Peter Parker who can make web shooters for himself, it really got annoying in the comic when they were using it as a repeated plot point (i.e. OH NO! At this plot convenient time I have, once again, run out of web! Say it ain't so!! Am I smart enough to make them but too dumb to make refills?!) Because of this, I was glad that they avoided the cheap opt out of making any moment dramatic by having him run out of web.

serilia wrote:OH god. I just laughed myself silly for about five minutes at the idea of the webs coming out of his ass. I might never recover.

Glad you enjoyed the mental image that created... :hehe:

That said, as much as I love the genius Peter Parker who can make web shooters for himself, it really got annoying in the comic when they were using it as a repeated plot point (i.e. OH NO! At this plot convenient time I have, once again, run out of web! Say it ain't so!! Am I smart enough to make them but too dumb to make refills?!) Because of this, I was glad that they avoided the cheap opt out of making any moment dramatic by having him run out of web.

That was the case in the earlier Spidey comics, but I think they eventually veered away from that plot point... It's like the whole Iron Man thing where he constantly needed to find an AC outlet all the time (since carrying a super-long extension cord was out of the question :hehe: )... That wore out its welcome as well, even though the reality of it exists... :)

serilia wrote:

X-Men is terrible. But at the same time, I can't not watch them. It's like going by some terrible accident and finding yourself unable to look away. I go, every time, the first day the movie is out, and leave screaming at everyone demanding an explanation why my favorite childhood characters are being butchered in such a terrible way. I am still waiting for an answer.

SUGOI! This is exactly how I feel about the X-Men movies. I grew up with the X-men, and to see them in live action, totally misplaced and misdirected, was a really bad experience for me. I still go and watch them... but I lose a bit of my soul every time.

The first two Batman films were amazing (something about Jack Nicholson as the Joker just gets me every time). The latest Batman film was good in that it returned to making Batman the strong dark type he's supposed to be rather than the laughably fake character that the movies had begun to make him as. The downside? It substantially deviated from canon and the idea of Katie Holmes as Batman's girl makes me want to hurl.

Yup, like I said, Batman and Batman returns are the best ones. I haven't seen the latest one, but I might if it's true to the gothic feel like the first two.

Ghost Rider is just one of those films they should have avoided at all cost. Not to mention that Nicolas Cage? As the ghost rider? What?! And, more importantly, WHY!? Talk about a miss!

I ended up NOT watching this one for the reasons you've mentioned. :hehe:

Other movies of this genre that should not have been made include (but are not limited to) Electra and Cat Woman.

>>shudder<<

Finally, my thoughts on the Hulk. Though they put up a valiant effort in showing a substantial amount of original story (much more than the Spider man movies have been able to do), the exaggerated acting and awkward CG characters made it a miss for me. That said, I adored some of the monologues in this movie and the scene changes using comic book panels was nothing short of ingenius.

And Eric Bana is HOT! ;)

OH! And the best Graphic Novel Adaptation Award Goes to: *drum roll*
V For Vendetta

OMG TOTALLY! What a beautiful movie! It's pretty much topped my list for this genre. I've brought it in a few times to share with my students and each time the class is blown away. Hats off for sure![/quote]

Wynter wrote:Yup, like I said, Batman and Batman returns are the best ones. I haven't seen the latest one, but I might if it's true to the gothic feel like the first two.

Batman Begins is better than either of the aforementioned Batman films... I think it has a more gothic feel than the others without relying totally on the set design... I do question the vehicle used in Batman Begins, but it's not a movie-breaker...

LOL, if you come out to SoCal, we can just sit around and watch/talk movies for the entire time you're here. :beaten:

bmwracer wrote:Batman Begins is better than either of the aforementioned Batman films... I think it has a more gothic feel than the others without relying totally on the set design... I do question the vehicle used in Batman Begins, but it's not a movie-breaker...

Batman Begins was just ok for me. I think I had a problem with the guy who played Batman, Christian Bale. I dunno, he just didn't feel right to me. There was nothing wrong with his performance but he just didn't scream, "Batman!" to me. And also the fact that the first half of the movie was so slow and heavy, almost kind of angsty. It's not until you get past the halfway point where most of the action begins. But yes, it's definitely better than the garbage that was Batman and Robin. *shudder*

serilia wrote:Ghost Rider is just one of those films they should have avoided at all cost. Not to mention that Nicolas Cage? As the ghost rider? What?! And, more importantly, WHY!? Talk about a miss!

I made the mistake of watching this movie in the theater. When it was over, I asked for a refund, that's how bad it was. Talk about butchering a comic book.

@MissMon: Ewwwww I didn't care enough to watch Batman and Robin. Actually, I didnt' watch any of the batman's after Batman Returns. :mrgreen:

@B-san: LOL! True say. Followed by heavy debates. Then heavy arguements. Then a beating. ;)

Wynter wrote:@MissMon: Ewwwww I didn't care enough to watch Batman and Robin. Actually, I didnt' watch any of the batman's after Batman Returns. :mrgreen:

Hehehe. Batman Forever was actually pretty good. Jim Carrey stole the movie as The Riddler. Mind you, it's not as good as the first two, but it's still a thoroughly entertaining movie. I think people tend to downplay this movie because Batman and Robin was such a failure. I won't even begin to explain why Batman and Robin sucked big time. I think the fact that the Arnold Schwarzenegger was in that movie plays a big part. :hehe:

Wynter wrote:@B-san: LOL! True say. Followed by heavy debates. Then heavy arguements. Then a beating. ;)

I wouldn't beat up a guest.

At least not for several days. :beaten:

MissMonika wrote: I think the fact that the Arnold Schwarzenegger was in that movie plays a big part. :hehe:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

bmwracer wrote:
I wouldn't beat up a guest.

At least not for several days. :beaten:

LOL! >>digs out bro's football gear<<