Movies! Movies! Movies! (Non-Japanese)

monta wrote:rented Lions for Lambs and Butterfly on a Wheel but ended up watching non... they looks so boring... :beaten:

Then why did you rent 'em? :headscratch:

Lions for Lambs didn't do well in the box office at all, but I heard it was a pretty good movie...

bmwracer wrote:
Then why did you rent 'em? :headscratch:

Lions for Lambs didn't do well in the box office at all, but I heard it was a pretty good movie...

I don't like those moonbat/anti-war movies. Backstabbing stuff written by civilians who would piss their pants if they'd have to ride on a Blackhawk.

Takekaze wrote:
Hey, they were crying over Harry Potter as well... because... there's magic in it! OH MY GOD!

Yea, I agree with Krim. Fanatics are just ridiculous and give all other people of the same religion a bad rep. They're JUST MOVIES. Move on.

[/quote]As for Christians, Catholics and the rest... I think they're all just crazy.[/quote]

Erm, you're stereotyping/discriminating... :sweat:

On Topic: I watched Posiedon (sp?) with my students. It was actually really interesting what they did with the set and effects... but the story was way too lame...

Takekaze wrote:
I don't like those moonbat/anti-war movies. Backstabbing stuff written by civilians who would piss their pants if they'd have to ride on a Blackhawk.

Yeah, we should make more pro-war/anti-everyone movies like they do in other countries.

Hail Hitler! Hail Stalin!


:applaud: :applaud:

Wynter wrote:Erm, you're stereotyping/discriminating... :sweat:

On Topic: I watched Posiedon (sp?) with my students. It was actually really interesting what they did with the set and effects... but the story was way too lame...

Na, I'm speaking from personal experience. Once they pull out the bible and start quoting it, using it as "evidence"... oi... Or when they start shoving their religion into my face... oivech... Then, just a few days ago, one of those told me that he really believes that mankind comes from two humans (adam and eve), and that in the 21st century... if that's not crazy... I don't know what else is. Ah, those monotheists... crazy bunch. I guess that happens whenever religion is given too much room to poison the minds of people. And ultimately we reach the point of "for god, king and country". Bleh...

UGH...

Something completely different. I saw something on TV that is just... sick. Hitman, the movie... What the hell? No! Why does this have to happen? Doom, now that was a shitty movie. Resident Evil was kind of funny, but lame compared to the games. And now Hitman the movie, oh... bleh... Why?! Why would I watch such a movie?! I can't kill stuff myself in a movie! It's pointless!

krim wrote:

Yeah, we should make more pro-war/anti-everyone movies like they do in other countries.

Hail Hitler! Hail Stalin!


:applaud: :applaud:

More movies like... "The Longest Day" or "A bridge too far", "Tora Tora Tora" or maybe "Operation Crossbow"? Any time, any day. "Battle at the Buldge", now that was great. No PC portrayal of the Germans. I love those old war movies, the Germans, especially their officers, are always impeccably dressed, and the Americans always look like crap, sloppy, etc. And then, the sloppy, dirty Americans kick the master-race in the butt. Bwahaha. "Kelly's Heroes", Clint Eastwood!

This anti-war crap was triggered by the hippies during Vietnam anyway. And I hate hippies. Ever since then every war movie has to have some sort of moral lesson. Pfffsh... anti-war, even if it distorts history, that's what they brought.

I still want a Dambusters movie (fighting 617th and their Lancasters! Woohoo!) Or a good movie on the Ploesti raid.

Takekaze wrote:
More movies like... "The Longest Day" or "A bridge too far", "Tora Tora Tora" or maybe "Operation Crossbow"? Any time, any day. "Battle at the Buldge", now that was great. No PC portrayal of the Germans. I love those old war movies, the Germans, especially their officers, are always impeccably dressed, and the Americans always look like crap, sloppy, etc. And then, the sloppy, dirty Americans kick the master-race in the butt. Bwahaha. "Kelly's Heroes", Clint Eastwood!

This anti-war crap was triggered by the hippies during Vietnam anyway. And I hate hippies.

I still want a Dambusters movie (fighting 617th and their Lancasters! Woohoo!) Or a good movie on the Ploesti raid.

Oh, you seem to be one of those... blame everything on the hippies, anti-war = anti-american.

I'll say again, it's just a movie.

krim wrote:

Oh, you seem to be one of those... blame everything on the hippies, anti-war = anti-american.

I'll say again, it's just a movie.

I'm not even American. However, I hate hippies because they were cowards. Pot smoking morons. And fact is, Vietnam was not lost on the battlefield, but because of backstabbing liars like Jane Fonda (went to North Vietnam and called all US POWs liars) and John Kerry (called all US soldiers "war criminals" after his return). And exactly the same is now happening with Iraq "Oh, we can't win, let's pull out", even though the US troops and their allies are winning on the ground.

And well, if we always say "it's just a movie", then the Nazi propaganda movie #1 "Der ewige Jude" is also "just a movie". That's a very dangerous argument. How many people believe what they see on a screen? A lot of them (I don't want to know how many people believe that samurai never used rifles, just because of Last Samurai). Movies are a great tool for propaganda as the USSR and the Nazis easily prove. "Triumph of the Will" holds plenty of people in awe even today.

Takekaze wrote:
I'm not even American. However, I hate hippies because they were cowards. Pot smoking morons. And fact is, Vietnam was not lost on the battlefield, but because of backstabbing liars like Jane Fonda (went to North Vietnam and called all US POWs liars) and John Kerry (called all US soldiers "war criminals" after his return). And exactly the same is now happening with Iraq "Oh, we can't win, let's pull out", even though the US troops and their allies are winning on the ground.

And well, if we always say "it's just a movie", then the Nazi propaganda movie #1 "Der ewige Jude" is also "just a movie". That's a very dangerous argument. How many people believe what they see on a screen? A lot of them (I don't want to know how many people believe that samurai never used rifles, just because of Last Samurai). Movies are a great tool for propaganda as the USSR and the Nazis easily prove. "Triumph of the Will" holds plenty of people in awe even today.

It's nice that you latched onto my Hitler/Stalin hint, but the same could also be said for anything made by any country. It does sound like you would've mentally fit in perfectly with Nazi Germany.

And as for the Jane Fonda/Vietnam/Iraq thing, it's a bunk argument, and it's sad that people still use it. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying something that can neither be proven nor disproven, and you play it off as fact.

You are entitled to your opinion as to how history played out and the influences of various people, but in fact unless you can go back in time and change history to prove your point, it's nothing more than theoretical conjecture.

the FACT that you aren't even american makes this even more lame and pointless. What are you going to bring up now? "Swift Boat"? LOL

krim wrote:It's nice that you latched onto my Hitler/Stalin hint, but the same could also be said for anything made by any country. It does sound like you would've mentally fit in perfectly with Nazi Germany.

And as for the Jane Fonda/Vietnam/Iraq thing, it's a bunk argument, and it's sad that people still use it. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying something that can neither be proven nor disproven, and you play it off as fact.

You are entitled to your opinion as to how history played out and the influences of various people, but in fact unless you can go back in time and change history to prove your point, it's nothing more than theoretical conjecture.

the FACT that you aren't even american makes this even more lame and pointless. What are you going to bring up now? "Swift Boat"? LOL

Actually, Kerry and Winter Soldier, does that ring a bell? Fonda was in NV, there are plenty of photos that prove it (she doesn't deny it herself, so...). POW organisations are still pissed off at her over those certain statements. The US never lost a battle. For example the famed "Tet Offensive" was a disaster for the Vietcong. They had massive losses and their operations were quickly contained. The war would have been over if the NVA wouldn't have popped up. The war was lost at home and politically, but not militarily. The troops were pulled out piece by piece because of the pressure that was build up at home, not because they were losing the war on the ground. Of course, with pulling out more and more troops winning becomes harder. As for Iraq, I trust a general, who sat in the grass as a green LT with his men, more than any politician (who are professional liars anyway). And Petraeus' "Surge" works. Of course it does, it's a basic strategy. Increase troops numbers, show more presence, cut down the enemy's ability of free movement. It's old but still works. I doubt that any of the screaming moonbats know enough about military tactits and strategies to really comment on The Surge. They would never sit in the grass themselves. They're commenting from the sidelines, that's always easy. As for the losses (I know this ALWAYS ends up on the table), they are horrible for the families back home, yes. No doubt about that. However, strictly speaking from the military point of view, they are minimal. A little journey into history: Kasserine Pass, more than 6,500 dead Americans. D-Day, almost 1,500 dead within a few hours. Iwo Jima, more than 6,800 dead and almost 19,000 wounded. Okinawa, more than 12,500 dead, nearly 40,000 wounded, and almost 34,000 non-combat losses. Vietnam (55,000 dead within 10 years). American Civil War, more than 500,000 dead, more than a million wounded (Grant lost more than 8,000 men at Cold Harbor within just a few hours, Union casualties were some 13,000 men, that's 13 regiments back then). Gettysburg, more than 50,000 dead Americans after 3 days. Iraq can't even remotely compare with that. I always say, with today's media in the US, the US would not be able to fight WW2 again. They would surrender after Pearl Harbor.

Fonda/Kerry, etc may be lame, but fact remains fact, no matter how lame it is. And I don't trust traitors and cowards. I don't trust a man who calls everyone a war criminal, even those he served with. I can't trust someone like that. It's against everything I believe in. You don't do that. You don't call your own buddies, who shared the same foxhole (or boat, or whatever else), war criminals. You don't do that. Any officer or soldier who does that is a coward and a traitor. That's just disgusting. That's why I was for Bush. Yep, not all Europeans loved Kerry. And because I believed that, with Kerry, it would be my boys sitting in Iraq now. Men I've trained, drilled, etc. I wouldn't want them to go into a war that's not their's.

Mentally fit for Nazi Germany? I don't even want comment on that. Why anyway? Because I don't trust a traitor? Fine, if that makes me fit for the Nazis, then many of my comrades are Nazis as well. That's fine. These days the "Nazi Hammer" is pulled out swiftly, I'm used to that, even though I'm actually left liberal. I'm left liberal, but I've also served actively. Not out of patriotism, but because we have the draft still and where else can I fire a 120mm cannon legally *insert Tim-Taylor-grunt*? (Yeah, I love blowing up shit) I would never fight for a country or a flag (as I said, I'm not a patriot, I'd sell my own country without hesitation, and flags are colorful pieces of cloth, nothing else), but for a cause I believe in, a friend, a loved one? For my buddies who'll be sitting in the trenches, who I would abandon if I would not fight? For someone I care for? Someone I love? Any time, any day, without hesitation. "For those we love". There's a 7-year old girl (soon 8) in Japan, who could have been my niece, would I have married her aunt. She still calls me "uncle". I would kill for her. I would die for her. "For those we love". Without hesitation. Without regrets.

And of course it can be said about anything that has been made in any country. That makes it so dangerous. Because sometimes the propaganda is extremely well hidden. "Der ewige Jude" works even today, because it so damn well done, that's the scary thing (if you ever have the chance, watch it, it's outright scary). Why do you think the "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" work even today? The Hamas bases it's BS on this ridiculous writing. Hell, come to Europe, watch how the hatred for Jews is growing in Europe. It's "in" again. And nobody gives a damn. The politicians? Screw them, they are useless, obsessed with clinging to power no matter the cost. The media? They're too busy showing Israel as a demon and making sure our freedom is destroyed by the damn EU. It scares me and it worries me. And no, I'm not a Jew. However, I'm not ashamed to admit this one thing: would I have grown up under Adolf, gone through all the indoctrination, I'm pretty sure I would have volunteered for the SS (I would qualify, perfectly). Sure, from today's point of view it's easy to say "No way", but we haven't been there, luckily, thus we can't guarantee the "no way". For me, it's a simple calculation of facts. I would have flown an outdated Zero into an enemy aircraft carrier, would I have been a Tokkotai back then, of course. Today it's easy to talk. That's why I respect every combat vet, no matter what side they were on.

Or do you want it like it happened not long ago in the UK where disabled vets from Iraq were thrown out of a public pool because some stupid woman complained that they "would scare the children"? That's shameful behavior by that woman (and I wonder what she would have done, would there have been "normal" disabled people). That's why I don't like hippies. They called combat vets coming home from Vietnam "babykillers", but they had not faced the war themselves. No, they were sitting safely at home. That's disgusting. That's cowardly. And such people, well, I don't respect them, I spit on them.

Ok, I'll step into this minefield and risk being called "dinosaur". That's fine. I'll tell you what I believe in:
Rectitude (‹` gi)
Courage (—E yū)
Benevolence (m jin)
Respect (—ç rei)
Honesty (½ makoto or M shin)
Honor, Glory (–¼—_ meiyo)
Loyalty (’‰‹` chūgi)
Looks familiar? It certainly does. 7 virtues of bushido. And it's bloody hard to follow those, trust me. I'm trying, but I'm often failing.

And Krim, we can agree to disagree, there's no shame in that. In fact, imagine we'd all have the same opinion. Shoot me lol. Horrible...

Funny, I just listened to John Lennon "Imagine". Yep, he was a hippie, sort of, yet... there's one thing in that song I really like "Imagine there's no countries, and no religion, too" and "Nothing to kill or die for" Yep. However, until then, I serve my "daimyo family" with my life. I'm not a soldier. Soldiers fight for payment, money or loot. We warriors don't do that :P We fight for values and virtues considered outdated by many today. And for those we love. And sometimes, you have to pull out the ugly stick and hand out a good thrashing.

Blargh! You got me rambling. Now THAT'S evil. That's really evil. Shame on you! :P

And I apologzie to the mods. :P But, don't ever get me ranting. Don't!

Since you admit that it's a rant, I won't even bother to read it.

I agree with the krimster: it's just a flick.

Sorry for making you rant. and about the "Nazi Hammer", there's no better way of illustrating the errors of blind faith in a cause (GW Bush, Ideals, Religion, etc), and leading to mass murder. Of course, if you're a denier, then there's little else to say.

As for the earlier PM, i hope it didn't seem offensive. :beaten:

bmwracer wrote:Since you admit that it's a rant, I won't even bother to read it.

I agree with the krimster: it's just a flick.

Actually, it's rambling, which actually makes it worse :P

krim wrote:Sorry for making you rant. and about the "Nazi Hammer", there's no better way of illustrating the errors of blind faith in a cause (GW Bush, Ideals, Religion, etc), and leading to mass murder. Of course, if you're a denier, then there's little else to say.

As for the earlier PM, i hope it didn't seem offensive. :beaten:

Don't worry about that. :mrgreen:

Takekaze wrote:Actually, it's rambling, which actually makes it worse :P

Either way, all that text glazed over my eyes. :beaten:

bmwracer wrote:
Either way, all that text glazed over my eyes. :beaten:

Hmmm... *PLOTS!*

Hmmm... Screamers on tv... weeee... Sci-Fi B movie. Or... C movie? D? And after that... oh great, Elmstreet 3 or 800 I don't know.

What's up? :beaten:
If y'all don't get the humor, we've had the political blow-up discussions before with myself being part of it. I can see so many flaws with the arguments used but I'll also say it's not worth the headaches people. The movies in discussion are Hollywood portraying what they think war and reality is like. These people also follow the fashion advice of wearing a tutu and goose head in public.

bmwracer wrote:
Lions for Lambs didn't do well in the box office at all, but I heard it was a pretty good movie...

Aren't those mutually exclusive? :hehe:

Kijinnmaru wrote:What's up? :beaten:
If y'all don't get the humor, we've had the political blow-up discussions before with myself being part of it. I can see so many flaws with the arguments used but I'll also say it's not worth the headaches people. The movies in discussion are Hollywood portraying what they think war and reality is like. These people also follow the fashion advice of wearing a tutu and goose head in public.

You just reminded me of finishing my Monty Pythons collection! Thank you! It was the tutu that did it :P

Kijinnmaru wrote:Aren't those mutually exclusive? :hehe:

At times.

There are exceptions, as you well know. ;)

krim wrote:It's a frigg'n movie people. A MOVIE!@!#@#!@#!@#!$!#%!

After having read all the comments - I shall never ever mention a movie I am going to watch. :bow:
Peace ne!

Post all the movies you want, don't stop on my account.

EstherM wrote:
After having read all the comments - I shall never ever mention a movie I am going to watch. :bow:
Peace ne!

LOL! Calm yourself dear! If nothing else, you let a few people get some stuff out of their system :)

beem wrote:
There are exceptions, as you well know.

And there's probably at least one person somewhere who would regard someone else's "worst movie ever" as their favorite. :hehe: