Movies! Movies! Movies! (Non-Japanese)

Started by blender1184 · 29 Jun 2005 · 5,013 replies

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7 May 2011, 07:50 #4741
bmwracer wrote:
The Japanese equivalent to Charlie Chan, I guess. :sweat:


Unlike Charlie Chan who was a detective for the Honolulu Police Department, Mr. Moto was a kind of international secret agent. I've only seen a few of the eight Mr. Moto films with Peter Lorre in the eponymous role, and I have to say, as a sansei, I wasn't offended by the way he was portrayed. These films were made in the late 30's, and to be frank, there weren't a whole lot of Japanese actors working in Hollywood at the time. Yes, in hindsight it's not kosher having a Hungarian play a Japanese. But the scripts and Lorre's performance as Mr. Moto (at least in the films I've seen) were innocuous. Mr. Moto was portrayed as being smart, perceptive, extremely efficient, and tough. He had the full confidence and support of the people he worked with, and the only time he condescended into stereotype was to fool the bad guys into thinking he wasn't a threat. It's obvious from watching Lorre's performances that he respected the character of Mr. Moto.

I've only seen a few of the 1930's Charlie Chan movies (with Warner Oland), and yes, having a Swede play a Chinese isn't kosher either. But, like Mr. Moto, I think Charlie Chan, at least in the few movies I've seen, is portrayed in a very positive light.

Btw, Hollywood isn't the only one guilty of awkward racial casting. Ningen no Shoumei (Proof of a Man), first a movie made in the late 1970's, and then a dorama made in 2004, put a Japanese actor in black face and afro to portray a black man who grew up in America. Charlie Chan and Mr. Moto movies were made in the 1930's (not an excuse for the casting of whites to play Asians, but certainly an explanation of why it occurred); but to cast a Japanese as a black man in 2004 when you'd think people should know better? C'mon!
10 May 2011, 17:32 #4742
anyone seen fast and furious 5? its the best! though not as good as previous movies in terms of cars, but the driving is as cool as ever! :)
12 May 2011, 04:35 #4743
gaijinmark wrote:

If you haven't already seen it, you might want to check out Blow-Up:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060176/

If for no other reason than a cameo by the Yardbirds with both Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page. :woot:

Here's my latest view, one worth checking out, quite creepy but it was really good, this is one that deserved a sequel. :nut:
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13 May 2011, 04:13 #4744
bmwracer wrote:^ Speaking of old flicks, This-TV has shown Charlie Chan and Invisible Man films that past couple of weekends.

Started on CC, enjoyed them quite a bit. :mrgreen:
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13 May 2011, 04:43 #4745
^ Charlie Chan's Secret was that he wasn't Chinese. :beaten:
13 May 2011, 05:04 #4746
bmwracer wrote:^ Charlie Chan's Secret was that he wasn't Chinese. :beaten:

That's true. :say_yes:

Swedish actor Warner Oland was educated in Boston, but proudly retained his Scandinavian roots throughout his life, even devoting time to translating the works of Norwegian playwright Henrik Ibsen into English for the benefit of theatrical scholars. Trained at Dr. Curry's Acting School, Oland took on a theatrical career, ultimately tackling the movie industry in 1915 with an appearance in Sin opposite Theda Bara. Oland's curious facial features enabled the occidental actor to specialize in oriental roles, most often as a villain. During a 1935 visit to China, Oland was mobbed by his enthusiastic Chinese movie fans, some of whom were so enchanted by his performance that (it is said) they actually believed Oland was genuinely Asian.
19 May 2011, 04:08 #4747
DVD Beaver review of Le Mans on Blu-Ray: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews54/le_mans_blu-ray.htm

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Still one of the very best auto racing films ever made. :victory:
19 May 2011, 04:16 #4748
Last watch, from 1963 a UK film The Sporting Life, probably the best Rugby film made. :victory:
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19 May 2011, 06:48 #4749
bmwracer wrote:^ Charlie Chan's Secret was that he wasn't Chinese. :beaten:


What? He's Chinese as chop suey! :P
19 May 2011, 08:25 #4750
Tu_triky wrote:What? He's Chinese as chop suey! :P

I'm sure that's what they believed back in the day. :sweat:
19 May 2011, 08:25 #4751
bmwracer wrote:
I'm sure that's what they believed back in the day. :sweat:


And I'm sure you're right! :sweat:
19 May 2011, 08:51 #4752
^^ Just got a couple of the Christopher Lee Fu Manchu films from the '60's, sure he's gonna look even less Oriental then Warner, maybe having a name like Lee was enough of a requirement. :doh:
19 May 2011, 08:55 #4753
hitomi #1 wrote:^^ Just got a couple of the Christopher Lee Fu Manchu films from the '60's, sure he's gonna look even less Oriental then Warner, maybe having a name like Lee was enough of a requirement. :doh:


Lee? Why do all Koreans look Chinese? I'm sure our S. Korean brethren will readily agree! :P
4 Jun 2011, 03:21 #4754
DVD Beaver reviews two classic films on Blu-Ray:

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5 Jun 2011, 04:07 #4755
I saw X-Men: First Class last night. For someone who doesn't know the comics well, I thought this movie did a good job of highlighting the relationship between Professor Xavier and Magneto. It helped me to understand their bond, how they are closely connected to one another. However, I thought the rest of the cast wasn't fleshed out as well, with Mystique being the only other character I thought had much development. Hopefully in the sequels that will change. The action was decent, there wasn't a fight or battle that really stood out. I also thought some of the pivotal moments for Magneto and Xavier weren't given more weight. Overall it was good, enjoyable movie, a B+ in my book.
5 Jun 2011, 12:47 #4756
Never been a fan of any of the X-Men movies... Or the X-Men comics, for that matter.

I've always thought superhero teams don't really work, because there's too much (or not enough) concern to try to flesh out each character within a period of time, like a two-hour movie or a single comic book issue.

No surprise that the more successful superhero movies and comics are single person superheroes: Batman, Spider-Man, etc.

And for that reason, I think next year's Avengers movie will be meh...
5 Jun 2011, 14:23 #4757
bmwracer wrote:Never been a fan of any of the X-Men movies... Or the X-Men comics, for that matter.

I've always thought superhero teams don't really work, because there's too much (or not enough) concern to try to flesh out each character within a period of time, like a two-hour movie or a single comic book issue.

No surprise that the more successful superhero movies and comics are single person superheroes: Batman, Spider-Man, etc.

And for that reason, I think next year's Avengers movie will be meh...


You make a good point, it's hard to flesh out each character within a movie's running time. It's not realistic for me to expect all the characters in the X-Men movie to be explored in depth. As long as they explore the main and popular characters then I should be satisfied with that.
21 Jul 2011, 07:15 #4758
The new Conan movie is coming out next month:
http://youtu.be/VXniszN2SWQ
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21 Jul 2011, 22:22 #4759
The Amazing Spider-Man trailer: http://video.aol.com/aolvideo/moviefone/the-amazing-spider-man-trailer-no-1/1067706881001

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