Movies! Movies! Movies! (Non-Japanese)

krim wrote:im wondering if Flags will be more SPR, or more Windtalkers.

Yesterday's review on Ebert & Roeper likened more to SPR...

hope i dont cry again then.. :puppydog: :sweat: :shamefulcry:

krim wrote:hope i dont cry again then.. :puppydog: :sweat: :shamefulcry:

as a north korean you should not cry...just go abduct some more japanese

It'll be interesting to see the take Eastwood, William Broyles, Jr. & Paul Haggis, have on the story, compared to "The Outsider". The 1961 film that used the guys who raised the flag on Iwo as the basis of the story.

"The Outsider" was a pretty powerful film (especially for 1961) that stared Tony Curtis, and that focused on the discrimination his character had to put up with as an American Indian. It followed his character from boot camp, through the war, and through the publicity tour the Pentagon sent him on after the famous picture was published.

Of course, for the History Channel fans out there, it's hard not to smirk when you know that the picture of the flag being raised on Iwo was either the second or third time it was raised... because they had to restage it for the photo.

Geezer wrote:It'll be interesting to see the take Eastwood, William Broyles, Jr. & Paul Haggis, have on the story, compared to "The Outsider". The 1961 film that used the guys who raised the flag on Iwo as the basis of the story.

"The Outsider" was a pretty powerful film (especially for 1961) that stared Tony Curtis, and that focused on the discrimination his character had to put up with as an American Indian. It followed his character from boot camp, through the war, and through the publicity tour the Pentagon sent him on after the famous picture was published.

Of course, for the History Channel fans out there, it's hard not to smirk when you know that the picture of the flag being raised on Iwo was either the second or third time it was raised... because they had to restage it for the photo.

Heh, I just read about that in Wiki. :)

Geezer wrote:it's hard not to smirk when you know that the picture of the flag being raised on Iwo was either the second or third time it was raised... because they had to restage it for the photo.

i think they might have briefly addressed that in the movie from what i could glean from one of the video clips i saw.

I wonder how many floors of the Pentagon the PR department takes up.

bmwracer wrote:From Wiki:

Wow. I'm more curious about the second film than the first... Kudos to Eastwood. :victory:

hopefully it'll have more historical accuracy than the Last Samurai or U-571

Hey man. If you're looking for historical accuracy, read Livius, or Tacitus, or Barbara Tuckman.

We're talking movies here.

Tu_triky wrote:hopefully it'll have more historical accuracy than the Last Samurai or U-571

It is a movie after all, not a documentary... ;)

Geezer wrote:Hey man. If you're looking for historical accuracy, read Livius, or Tacitus, or Barbara Tuckman.

We're talking movies here.

not necessary...for example the Twilight Samurai was placed in the same time frame as the Last Samurai, just prior to the Meiji Restoration of 1868, and it was a hell of a lot more authentic with regard to history.

bmwracer wrote:
It is a movie after all, not a documentary... ;)

true but when you can easily prescribe certain accomplishments to the correct ppl, such as the British or the Prussians why not do so? there doesn't need to be an American revisionist view of things when avoiding such pitfalls is not at all complicated.

i'd watch Caligula for realism. :twisted: :victory:

krim wrote:i'd watch Caligula for realism. :twisted: :victory:

well that would be quite...scary...among other things....


in any event, i concede the point elaborated above by Geerzer & 'racer.....its the "movies" after all....i guess with regard to certain films i look for some historical accuracy in order to affect a suspension of disbelief.

Tu_triky wrote:I hear the Japanese are coming out with another movie called Letters to China & Korea from the Yasukuni Shrine.

There must be a character in this movie named Junichiro Koizumi :beaten: :hehe:

Saito_Hajime wrote:

There must be a character in this movie named Junichiro Koizumi :beaten: :hehe:

he's one of the main characters...in the movie credits...he's listed as the japanese elvis. at the end of the movie a bunch of filipinos and chinese kick his ass and steal his costumes as payback for his foolishness.

Tu_triky wrote:


he's one of the main characters...in the movie credits...he's listed as the japanese elvis. at the end of the movie a bunch of filipinos and chinese kick his ass and steal his costumes as payback for his foolishness.

:lol: :rofl:
I hope the predecessor, Shinzo Abe, wouldn't do the same mistake. Or maybe he is also planning to make a visit to the shrine but was too occupied with this problem regarding North Korea's nukes. :sweat: :bonk:

Saito_Hajime wrote:

:lol: :rofl:
I hope the predecessor, Shinzo Abe, wouldn't do the same mistake. Or maybe he is also planning to make a visit to the shrine but was too occupied with this problem regarding North Korea's nukes. :sweat: :bonk:

Shinzo was his name-o


I just saw Flag of our Fathers....Shinzo probably cried cuz his grandfather's ppl got their asses kicked after they tried to take over mainland Asia and the Pacific.



The film was pretty interesting.....it does make you pause and think about the real, inglorious nature of war...how ppl are exploited and if the soul of a man is extinguished....it's another costly price of war.

Tu_triky wrote:The film was pretty interesting.....it does make you pause and think about the real, inglorious nature of war...how ppl are exploited and if the soul of a man is extinguished....it's another costly price of war.

Are you going to see the other film from the Japanese viewpoint, Letters From Iwo Jima?

bmwracer wrote:
Are you going to see the other film from the Japanese viewpoint, Letters From Iwo Jima?

i'd love to...but it is out yet? ken watanabe is in it if i'm not mistaken.