People of the Village

thtl wrote:

I once worked for a Japanese company and my boss, a Japanese that's now approaching retirement, told me that on this issue the Japanese society can be categorized into 3 groups - those who refuse to admit it (older generation, especially those in politics); those who don't want to admit it (middle age generation); and those who don't really care (most of the younger generation). Occasionally an individual or 2 who want to make public all the war crimes committed by the Japanese military, but they are either shunted from society or discredited in a lot of ways.

Someone once said the Japanese, by nature, only succumb to superior strength. This is why they are completely under the thumb of the Americans but remained snobbish towards the Asian countries they violated.

I dare say if it was, for instance, China who dropped the A-bombs on Japan, half the Japanese population would be speaking Chinese today, instead of stuffing themselves with Big Macs and Cokes.

i won't disagree with your statements but i am sure you agree such attitudes do not "excuse" or "explain" japanese attitudes regarding atrocities committed during the pre-WWII and WWII eras

Tu_triky wrote:

agreed...but the japanese haven't even approached anything that would considered an acknowledgement of the truth...


bastards to the end....

i appreciate japanese culture but i ain't no ass kissin' whore who loves every aspect of japanese culture to the exclusion of the truth...

very well said! Some people love Japanese culture so much,they'll even defend it to death yet they're not even Japanese.I believe we should appreciate the best of their culture but at least make them realize their mistakes also.

Tu_triky wrote:
i won't disagree with your statements but i am sure you agree such attitudes do not "excuse" or "explain" japanese attitudes regarding atrocities committed during the pre-WWII and WWII eras

You're damn right I do. I'm too young to have experienced the war but my grandfather worked for the allied forces (actually the Brits) in Hong Kong during the war, and one of my grandmothers was killed in a raid.

I most certainly don't condone what the Japanese military did during, and before, the war. I dare say the Chinese, of which I'm a member, received the blunt of Japanese brutality during that period of time.

In episode 2, "Live Chat", of "Tsubasa no Oreta Tenshitachi" there was a motto - 'Every person has 2 faces'. The Japanese culture we have all come to admire in the forum is the 'angel face', where are the underlying brutality and perversion of the Japanese is the 'evil face'. While I may go off puppy-eyed and drooling over the likes of Ms. Ueno, I certainly won't forget the Rape of Nanking in a hurry.

thtl wrote:

You're damn right I do. I'm too young to have experienced the war but my grandfather worked for the allied forces (actually the Brits) in Hong Kong during the war, and one of my grandmothers was killed in a raid.

I most certainly don't condone what the Japanese military did during, and before, the war. I dare say the Chinese, of which I'm a member, received the blunt of Japanese brutality during that period of time.

In episode 2, "Live Chat", of "Tsubasa no Oreta Tenshitachi" there was a motto - 'Every person has 2 faces'. The Japanese culture we have all come to admire in the forum is the 'angel face', where are the underlying brutality and perversion of the Japanese is the 'evil face'. While I may go off puppy-eyed and drooling over the likes of Ms. Ueno, I certainly won't
forget the Rape of Nanking in a hurry.

I applaud you for not suffering a sense of amnesia as the japanese and all their officials have....

as much as i love japanese popular culture...i ain't no sucker ass bitch that glosses over their heinous crimes committed during the WWII era...which they cowardly fail to acknowlegdge..

Tu_triky wrote:

I applaud you for not suffering a sense of amnesia as the japanese and all their officials have....

as much as i love japanese popular culture...i ain't no sucker ass bitch that glosses over their heinous crimes committed during the WWII era...which they cowardly fail to acknowlegdge..

I'm afraid I can't speak for my fellow race though. At the very least a proportion of the Taiwanese ruling body thinks that Japan is indeed the land of the rising sun, in fact they think the sun shines out of Japanese a-holes. :banghead:

thtl wrote:

I'm afraid I can't speak for my fellow race though. At the very least a proportion of the Taiwanese ruling body thinks that Japan is indeed the land of the rising sun, in fact they think the sun shines out of Japanese a-holes. :banghead:

yeah i know the DPP and the KMT ain't got no love for the Japanese....

i have had several taiwanese friends over the last decade or so.

Tu_triky wrote:

yeah i know the DPP and the KMT ain't got no love for the Japanese....

i have had several taiwanese friends over the last decade or so.

Just as I've known a couple of very decent Japanese too. Politics is such as complex and, for me, unsavory subject that maybe we should just leave it at that. :sweat:

thtl wrote:

Just as I've known a couple of very decent Japanese too. Politics is such as complex and, for me, unsavory subject that maybe we should just leave it at that. :sweat:

yes, i will let the poliitics rest in the pool of deceit in which it came from :P


maybe MAKKY can save the day.....MAKKY wa MAKKY desu...


:rofl:

getting a bit off course here.. :sweat:

krim wrote:getting a bit off course here.. :sweat:

:P

haha...

yes let's continue to speak of the oppressive japanese attitudes toward the burakumin, the Ainu, and ethnically Korean japanese.........

a much more plesant, and germaine discussion.

krim wrote:getting a bit off course here.. :sweat:

This forum has a long and proud tradition of shooting off course in all directions. :mrgreen:

thtl wrote:This forum has a long and proud tradition of shooting off course in all directions. :mrgreen:

This forum's a shining example of entropy.

bmwracer wrote:
This forum's a shining example of entropy.

entropy is a universal law....no need to hate on that score...

but thtl and i mentioned some germaine ponts re japanese attitudes re the oppressed...this thread could heated and ugly...quick....s'all good wiht me but are ppl ready to have such a serious, unbashed discussion?

do kana......

Tu_triky wrote:entropy is a universal law....no need to hate on that score...

No hate at all... Just a statement of fact...

Hmm, maybe I should post it in the Random Facts thread. :beaten:

bmwracer wrote:
No hate at all... Just a statement of fact...

Hmm, maybe I should post it in the Random Facts thread. :beaten:

i can't argue with you...especially given my recalcitrant habit of going off the "reservation" when it comes to posts...

gomennasai moderator-san

Tu_triky wrote:

Uh huh. :sweat:

bmwracer wrote:
Uh huh. :sweat:

what? :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

bmwracer wrote:
Uh huh. :sweat:

Once again... the whole purpose has been defeated. :beaten:

Hanzo21 wrote:

Once again... the whole purpose has been defeated. :beaten:

was reading the earlier posts of this discussion....quite deep and so true regarding the Japanese people... :sweat:

but yes, off topic again, and that Aki Hoshino pix, got us all off-guard :beaten: :naughty: