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12 Feb 2008, 08:23 #961
Anime Dad wrote:The only thing that will keep HD DVD alive will be the XBOX 360. But probably only for games...


not true, the pr0n industry went with HD DVD, they're the ones that tipped the scales for VHS last time around, so it'll be interesting to see if the adults still rule the media war.
16 Feb 2008, 06:25 #962
krim wrote:

not true, the pr0n industry went with HD DVD, they're the ones that tipped the scales for VHS last time around, so it'll be interesting to see if the adults still rule the media war.



Wal-Mart dumps HD DVDs to back Blu-ray

By Franklin Paul
1 hour, 22 minutes ago



Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT.N) has decided to exclusively sell high-definition DVDs in the Blu-Ray format, dealing what could be a crippling blow to the rival HD DVD technology backed by Toshiba Corp (6502.T).

The move by the world's largest retailer, announced on Friday, caps a disappointing week for HD DVD supporters, who also saw consumer electronics chain Best Buy Co Inc (BBY.N) and online video rental company Netflix Inc (NFLX.O) defect to the Blu-ray camp.

In a statement on its Web site, Wal-Mart said that over the next few months it will phase out sales of HD DVD systems and discs. By June, it will sell only products in the Blu-ray format which was developed by Sony Corp (6758.T).

"We've listened to our customers, who are showing a clear preference toward Blu-ray products and movies with their purchases," said Gary Severson, a Wal-Mart senior vice president.

The move affects 4,000 Wal-Mart and Sam's Club stores in the United States, as well as related online sites. The stores will continue to sell traditional DVD players and movies.

The so-called format war between HD DVD and Blu-ray has been a thorn in the side of retailers, which have had to commit shelf space to devices from both camps even as they field complaints from frustrated and confused customers.

Next-generation DVDs and players, boasting better picture quality and more capacity, were expected to help revive the $24 billion global home DVD market. But Hollywood studios had initially split their alliances between the two camps, meaning only certain films would play on a consumer's DVD machine.

Like the Betamax-VHS battle in the 1980s, having two DVD standards has dampened sales of both and put retailers in a conundrum of having to either choose sides or sell products that have a chance of becoming obsolete very quickly.

The balance of power, however, tipped toward the Sony camp in January after Time Warner Inc's (TWX.N) Warner Bros studio said it would only release high-definition DVDs in Blu-ray format. With that, studios behind some three-quarters of DVDs are backing Blu-ray, although some release in both formats.

Blu-ray also has support from News Corp's (NWSa.N) 20th Century Fox, Walt Disney Co (DIS.N) and Lions Gate Entertainment Corp (LGF.N). Sony's PlayStation 3 game console can also play Blu-ray films.

"So if you bought the HD player like me, I'd retire it to the bedroom, kid's playroom, or give it to your parents to play their John Wayne standard def movies, and make space for a BD player for your awesome Hi Def experience," Wal-Mart's movie and gaming blogger, Susan Chronister, wrote in a posting.

To be sure, Toshiba has secured agreements with studios including NBC Universal's Universal Pictures, Viacom Inc's(VIAb.N) Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc (DWA.N).

Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) Xbox 360 also currently works only with HD DVD. However, Microsoft said in January it could consider supporting Blu-ray technology at consumers' behest.

Toshiba could not be reached to comment on Wal-Mart's move.

Earlier on Friday, the Hollywood Reporter quoted unidentified industry sources as saying Toshiba was widely expected to pull the plug on HD DVD in the coming weeks.

Toshiba spokeswoman Junko Furuta said none of what was reported in the magazine had been decided. She declined to comment further, saying: "We cannot comment on speculation."

(Reporting by Franklin Paul; additional reporting by Kiyoshi Takenaka in Tokyo; editing by Phil Berlowitz and Gerald E. McCormick)
16 Feb 2008, 07:07 #963
Tu_triky wrote:
Wal-Mart dumps HD DVDs to back Blu-ray

The rats and the sinking ship analogy comes to mind right now.
16 Feb 2008, 07:15 #964
bmwracer wrote:
The rats and the sinking ship analogy comes to mind right now.


The ship is sunk, the rats are dunked. Later HD DVD, we hardly knew ya...
Have a good time chillin' with Betamax.
16 Feb 2008, 07:18 #965
Tu_triky wrote:The ship is sunk, the rats are dunked. Later HD DVD, we hardly knew ya...

LOL.

I can hear that Celine Dion song in the distance................ :hehe:
16 Feb 2008, 07:26 #966
bmwracer wrote:
LOL.

I can hear that Celine Dion song in the distance................ :hehe:


:hehe: :hehe:

The largest retailer bailed on you....it's over!

I just got this response from Oppo Digital re: Blu-ray:

We have not yet aligned ourselves to the HD DVD, Blu-Ray, or combo high definition video formats. The primary reason for this is that we feel that neither of these hardware designs are mature enough to be implemented and released by OPPO Digital. Our operational motto is to "make a mature product better". The HD DVD and Blu-Ray specifications are continually changing, and we can't afford to create a solution which will become obsolete within a year.

We are vigorously investigating all current and future hardware solutions, however we do not know when we will commit to them.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
[email protected]
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119
16 Feb 2008, 08:02 #967
Tu_triky wrote:
The HD DVD and Blu-Ray specifications are continually changing, and we can't afford to create a solution which will become obsolete within a year.

This is one reason why the PS3 is a good choice as a Bluray player. It appears to be easier to update the firmware allowing users to add new specs as they are introduced. Keep in mind, that the 2.0 spec spec requires internet connectivity and how many people are really going to use this?
16 Feb 2008, 08:04 #968
dochira wrote:
This is one reason why the PS3 is a good choice as a Bluray player. It appears to be easier to update the firmware allowing users to add new specs as they are introduced.


Makes sense.
16 Feb 2008, 08:32 #969
I'm not sure why they just didn't continue to use the DVD, but compress the damn movie instead of mpeg2. Oh well.

Hopefully the PS3 drive is better than the PS2. Mine stop reading disc a long time ago. :grumble: So far, the PS3 is almost cheaper than stand-alone blue-ray too. Nuts. :nut:
16 Feb 2008, 08:39 #970
tabana wrote: So far, the PS3 is almost cheaper than stand-alone blue-ray too. Nuts. :nut:


Yeah that is pretty nuts.
16 Feb 2008, 11:55 #971
And you can pl;ay games on it too :applaud:
18 Feb 2008, 00:10 #972
The death knell sounds....

Kyodo Reports That Toshiba May End Its HD DVD Video Format; Now Competes Against Blu-Ray
TOKYO (AP) -- Japanese electronics maker Toshiba might withdraw its HD DVD next-generation video format, Kyodo News agency reported Saturday.

The report cited unidentified individuals from the industry as saying Toshiba Corp. is reviewing its operations, with the timing of the withdrawal to be decided later, depending on U.S. demand for its HD DVD products and other factors.

Calls went unanswered at Toshiba Corp.'s Tokyo office, which was closed for the weekend.

HD DVD has been competing against the Blu-ray technology, backed by Sony Corp., other makers and five major Hollywood movie studios.

Recently the Blu-ray disc format has been gaining market share, while Toshiba has been forced to slash prices to sell its HD DVD machines. A Toshiba pullout would signal the almost certain defeat of HD DVD to Blu-ray.

On Friday, Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the largest U.S. retailer, said it will sell only Blu-ray DVDs and hardware and no longer carry HD DVD offerings.

The announcement came five days after Netflix Inc. said it will cease carrying rentals in HD DVD. Several major U.S. retailers have made similar decisions, including Target Corp. and Blockbuster Inc.

Last month, Warner Bros. Entertainment decided to release movie discs only in the Blu-ray format, becoming the latest studio to reject HD DVD.

Warner Bros., owned by Time Warner Inc., had been the only remaining Hollywood studio releasing high-definition DVDs in both formats.

Both formats deliver crisp, clear high-definition pictures and sound, but they are incompatible with each other, and neither plays on older DVD players.

Only one format has been expected to emerge as the winner, much like VHS trumped Sony's Betamax in the video format battle of the 1980s.

18 Feb 2008, 00:27 #973
Oh wow, you beat me to the punch: I just read this... :)
18 Feb 2008, 00:38 #974
bmwracer wrote:Oh wow, you beat me to the punch: I just read this... :)


I woke up early...didn't go out last night ^_^
18 Feb 2008, 09:44 #975
10 Tricks For Improving Your HDTV Picture

http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/yshoppingarticles/84/sharpening-up-your-new-hdtv
18 Feb 2008, 14:26 #976
bmwracer wrote:10 Tricks For Improving Your HDTV Picture

http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/yshoppingarticles/84/sharpening-up-your-new-hdtv


1 Trick for Improving your HDTV Picture...hire an ISF Callibration Specialist.
19 Feb 2008, 01:04 #977
Finally, we have a winner. :sweat:

Now, I'm just waiting for region-free players to be available.
19 Feb 2008, 01:08 #978
Super No. 1 wrote:Finally, we have a winner. :sweat:

Now, I'm just waiting for region-free players to be available.

I wouldn't be surprised if Philips is already working on that. :)
19 Feb 2008, 22:51 #979
HD-DVD is now officially dead. From the Toshiba web site ( http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr1903.htm ):

Toshiba Announces Discontinuation of HD DVD Businesses

19 February, 2008

Company Remains Focused on Championing Consumer Access to High Definition Content

TOKYO--Toshiba Corporation today announced that it has undertaken a thorough review of its overall strategy for HD DVD and has decided it will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders. This decision has been made following recent major changes in the market. Toshiba will continue, however, to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.

HD DVD was developed to offer consumers access at an affordable price to high-quality, high definition content and prepare them for the digital convergence of tomorrow where the fusion of consumer electronics and IT will continue to progress.

"We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called 'next-generation format war' and concluded that a swift decision will best help the market develop," said Atsutoshi Nishida, President and CEO of Toshiba Corporation. "While we are disappointed for the company and more importantly, for the consumer, the real mass market opportunity for high definition content remains untapped and Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality."

Toshiba will continue to lead innovation, in a wide range of technologies that will drive mass market access to high definition content. These include high capacity NAND flash memory, small form factor hard disk drives, next generation CPUs, visual processing, and wireless and encryption technologies. The company expects to make forthcoming announcements around strategic progress in these convergence technologies.

Toshiba will begin to reduce shipments of HD DVD players and recorders to retail channels, aiming for cessation of these businesses by the end of March 2008. Toshiba also plans to end volume production of HD DVD disk drives for such applications as PCs and games in the same timeframe, yet will continue to make efforts to meet customer requirements. The company will continue to assess the position of notebook PCs with integrated HD DVD drives within the overall PC business relative to future market demand.

This decision will not impact on Toshiba's commitment to standard DVD, and the company will continue to market conventional DVD players and recorders. Toshiba intends to continue to contribute to the development of the DVD industry, as a member of the DVD Forum, an international organization with some 200 member companies, committed to the discussion and defining of optimum optical disc formats for the consumer and the related industries.

Toshiba also intends to maintain collaborative relations with the companies who joined with Toshiba in working to build up the HD DVD market, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation and major Japanese and European content providers on the entertainment side, as well as leaders in the IT industry, including Microsoft, Intel, and HP. Toshiba will study possible collaboration with these companies for future business opportunities, utilizing the many assets generated through the development of HD DVD.
19 Feb 2008, 23:01 #980
bmwracer wrote:HD-DVD is now officially dead. From the Toshiba web site ( http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr1903.htm ):

Toshiba Announces Discontinuation of HD DVD Businesses


It's all sewed up now....no surprise I suspect. New Toshiba annoucement

Toshiba Announces New Line of High End Coasters to be used to accent burgeoning line of Donburis and Tea cups

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