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24 Apr 2008, 08:02 #1101
tabana wrote:Yes, but we are not enough people in Canada (35m)

You guys are more than welcome to our prison population, as well as all the illegals... :mrgreen:
25 Apr 2008, 00:29 #1102
:hehe:

I think I'll build this and see if it's good or not. The only antennas I found were around 100$ and had horrible reviews.

How to build a UHF HDTV Antenna I just need clothes hangers. :mrgreen:
25 Apr 2008, 00:37 #1103
tabana wrote::hehe:

I think I'll build this and see if it's good or not. The only antennas I found were around 100$ and had horrible reviews.

How to build a UHF HDTV Antenna I just need clothes hangers. :mrgreen:

The loop antenna that's part of my rabbit ears box seems to work just fine... As long as you have a relatively strong signal and no tall buildings nearby. :)
25 Apr 2008, 00:38 #1104
tabana wrote::hehe:

I think I'll build this and see if it's good or not. The only antennas I found were around 100$ and had horrible reviews.

How to build a UHF HDTV Antenna I just need clothes hangers. :mrgreen:



http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=15920&i=209HDTVI&search=HDTV+antenna&tp=3261
25 Apr 2008, 02:56 #1105
Tu_triky wrote:http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=15920&i=209HDTVI&search=HDTV+antenna&tp=3261

Cute looking, but probably no better than a regular set of rabbit ears... And it has no amplification circuitry. :sweat:
25 Apr 2008, 03:16 #1106
bmwracer wrote:
Cute looking, but probably no better than a regular set of rabbit ears... And it has no amplification circuitry. :sweat:


I use one to dry my socks....
25 Apr 2008, 04:57 #1107
Tu_triky wrote:I use one to dry my socks....

Multipurpose tool. :victory:
25 Apr 2008, 05:04 #1108
bmwracer wrote:
Multipurpose tool. :victory:



Hehe....I'm sure you're right about the antenna, all kidding aside.
25 Apr 2008, 07:09 #1109
bmwracer wrote:
The loop antenna that's part of my rabbit ears box seems to work just fine... As long as you have a relatively strong signal and no tall buildings nearby. :)

Part of my problem, actually. The stations are about 4 to 6km away, but I live and I'm surrounded by 30+ stories building. =T

I actually wanted to buy a socks dryer antenna. Made by another company with a booster in it. The problem with all those is they never ship to Canada and no stores have them. Only crappy stuff. :pout:
25 Apr 2008, 07:16 #1110
you could always try and hit Galaxy 25 w/ a Ku-band FTA dish... NHK doesn't seem to beam to it anymore though..

... but PAS-9 seems to have NHK and TVJapan now.. need a larger C-Band dish though.
25 Apr 2008, 07:34 #1111
tabana wrote:Part of my problem, actually. The stations are about 4 to 6km away, but I live and I'm surrounded by 30+ stories building. =T

That might create some multipath distortion... But a digital broadcast might not care: the error correction would fix it, I'd think. :)
25 Apr 2008, 07:55 #1112
Cool thanks. I'll check it out. :)


As for the dish, well, I checked all the channel on Galaxy 25. Probably 30 languages and Japanese is missing. 90% of English channels are related to religion. That's a big :bleh: for me. :sweat: I'll have to move somewhere else before buying a big dish too. :puppydog:
25 Apr 2008, 09:33 #1113
move in w/ the travel partner? :mrgreen:
26 Apr 2008, 03:05 #1114
A Downside to Digital TV

By Roy Furchgott, The New York Times, April 24, 2008

Mike Duffy wanted to be ready to switch from over-the-air analog TV broadcasts to an all-digital signal that will occur across the country next February. His Chattanooga, Tenn., hilltop home was nearly in the line of sight to a nearby TV station antenna and he had never had a problem getting analog TV signals.

He assumed he would have no difficulty with digital signals. So he hooked up a digital converter box to his old TV and attached the rabbit-ears antenna he had always used. His new digital picture was sharp and detailed \ for as long as he remained sitting in his chair.

When he stood up the picture would deteriorate into blocky images or disappear completely. gIt did seem to be affected by the position of people in the room,h he said.

Mr. Duffy had discovered that over-the-air digital signals behave differently from analog signals. That wonft matter to most Americans come the switchover. They either own a digital TV or get their signal through cable or satellite. But 17 million households have an analog TV that receives its signals over the air \ 13 million of them use a rabbit-ear antenna. That means that not only do they have to buy a digital converter box; they may have to buy a new antenna. An additional 18 million homes have TVs that get over-the-air signals, but the residents have other TVs that are connected to cable or satellite services.

Estimates from a computer simulation run by Centris, a market research firm in Los Angeles, found that more than nine million households that now get programming over the air could lose one or more stations they now receive. Although digital broadcasts will provide a superior picture and more channels than old analog broadcasts, digital reception is more easily blocked by hills, trees and buildings than analog reception. Furthermore, analog degrades gradually, with the picture displaying snow or ghosts (image echoes) as the signal becomes weaker. But the digital signal stays uniformly crisp until the signal gets weak; then the picture suddenly drops out, a phenomenon that engineers call the gcliff effect.h

An antenna is a simple device, an assembly of metal rods that turns electromagnetic waves into electrical currents. They come in various sizes and styles because the length of the rods are designed to catch particular frequencies.

gThe bigger the antenna, the more bars, the better at receiving a weaker signal,h said Dave Wilson, director of technology and standards for the Consumer Electronics Association. gThe main reason for most of the different shapes is that many times you want the antenna to not just convert the electrical field, but to amplify a weak signal, or ignore an interfering signal.h

For a simple device, the antenna has generated a lot of misinformation. For example, you may hear about digital antenna or HDTV antenna. But you do not need an HDTV antenna to get digital high-definition signals. Digital HD is broadcast on the same UHF and VHF frequencies as analog TV. The antennas need not be different. A special antenna is not required to receive the new channels from a station. If your antenna gets the local PBS channel, for example, it will get all the digital subchannels.

For those locations suffering the cliff effect, a new antenna is needed to pull the signals in. For TV reception on UHF and VHF frequencies, an indoor antenna like rabbit ears may work if the signal is very strong. A weaker signal may require a disc-shaped outdoor antenna that receives signals from all directions. An even weaker signal will require a V-shaped outdoor antenna, perhaps with a motor to point it directly at each broadcast signal tower.

Before buying an antenna, buy the converter box and attach it to your old antenna and to your TV. You may get all of the stations you want. (The boxes are available at electronics stores. You can get a coupon for a $40 discount at dtv2009.gov, but donft wait too long; there is a limited supply of them.)

As Mr. Duffy found, picking the right antenna can require some experimentation. After the rabbit ears, he tried different receivers and antennas in different locations. He graduated from a $25 indoor antenna that didnft solve the problem to a $30 outdoor antenna with a 40-inch boom mounted on the garage.

Reception is now good, he said, but not perfect, which has him thinking about a rotating antenna or a signal amplifier. The Consumer Electronics Association and the National Association of Broadcasters sponsor a Web site to help people through the process, antennaweb.org. The site uses software that determines which aerial you need based on your location relative to station antennas. It also advises you where to point it.

Also check antennaweb.org to make sure your antenna suits the post-February frequency. Some digital stations that are now available may move from UHF to VHF after February 2009. At the site, click on the gchoose antennah button, then fill in your street address. You donft have to fill out the name and phone number fields to get accurate results, and if you donft want to receive marketing materials or surveys, make sure to uncheck the permission boxes below your address.

You can get a more exact recommendation if you get your latitude and longitude from a G.P.S. device. Or you can look it up on Google Earth (earth.google.com) or Virtual Earth microsoft.com/virtualearth). Enter that data by clicking on the word goptionsh near the bottom of the address screen.

The site organizes types of antenna by a color code, from yellow for low-strength multidirectional antennas to violet for large directional antennas that may also need an amplifier to pull in weak signals. The electronics association is encouraging antenna makers to use the color code as a guide on their packaging.

It is easier finding the right spot for an antenna. gThe best placement is outside on a mast as high up as possible,h said Mr. Wilson. Make sure the antenna is properly grounded. (Another suggestion: make the switch before the February changeover; it is not good to walk on an icy roof.)

Not a do-it-yourselfer? Antennaweb links to techhome.com, which can locate an installer in your area. But buyer beware, though the installers are on the association Web site, they arenft required to be certified, bonded or experienced to get on the list.

If the available antenna placement is less than perfect, sometimes a signal amplifier can boost a signal sufficiently to make up the difference. An amplifier, which sells for about $60, is also useful if the cable connecting the TV and the antenna is longer than 20 feet, or if more than one TV is using the same antenna through a splitter, which weakens the signal.

But you can get too much of a good thing. gMore signal is not always helpful. It is possible to overload the receiver with signal so it wonft work,h Mr. Wilson said. Also make sure the amplifier boosts the specific frequency range you want amplified, he said.

Some homeowner associations may have restrictions against rooftop antennas, but if the neighbors object you can quote Section 207 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996. The act broadly says that no one can keep an owner or renter from the ginstallation, maintenance or useh of an antenna. In rare cases, the kind of antenna and where it is placed may be restricted.

If the neighbors never talk to you again, be content that at least youfll have your TV with its bright and clear digital signal \ whether you stay in your chair or not.
26 Apr 2008, 05:23 #1115
Thanks. :D Nice article.
krim wrote:move in w/ the travel partner? :mrgreen:

That will actually happen in June, but at my place. I guess I could get cable, but I never watch TV. =T
26 Apr 2008, 07:06 #1116
tabana wrote:Thanks. :D Nice article.

That will actually happen in June, but at my place. I guess I could get cable, but I never watch TV. =T


Omedetto!
Does combini videos count as TV? :hehe:
26 Apr 2008, 07:15 #1117
:rofl: Thanks.

e-to... :notell: which reminds me I have a few things DVDs to reburn and tag as work backups :beaten: :ashamed:
27 Apr 2008, 12:43 #1118
Toshiba Profits Plummet 95 Percent After HD DVD Exit

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Toshiba is attributing the losses to its departure from the HD DVD business in February, saying it cost them $461 million.

Toshiba is reporting a 95 percent loss in profits for Q1 2008, attributing the losses to the companyfs departure from the HD DVD business in February.

It lost 48 billion yen ($461 million) when it pulled out of the HD DVD industry, the company says.
27 Apr 2008, 12:51 #1119
bmwracer wrote:Toshiba Profits Plummet 95 Percent After HD DVD Exit

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Toshiba is attributing the losses to its departure from the HD DVD business in February, saying it cost them $461 million.

Toshiba is reporting a 95 percent loss in profits for Q1 2008, attributing the losses to the companyfs departure from the HD DVD business in February.

It lost 48 billion yen ($461 million) when it pulled out of the HD DVD industry, the company says.



I say they resurrect Laser Disc....
27 Apr 2008, 13:41 #1120
Tu_triky wrote:I say they resurrect Laser Disc....

I still have my player. :mrgreen:

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