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22 Jan 2009, 10:45 #3221
GM falls behind Toyota in annual global sales

By BREE FOWLER, AP Auto Writer
Wed Jan 21, 5:14 pm ET

NEW YORK – Toyota Motor Corp. sold more cars and trucks worldwide than any other automaker last year, seizing the crown General Motors Corp. held for 77 years. But with its overall sales having fallen for the first time in 10 years and the entire industry mired in a slump, there's little for the Japanese company to celebrate.

GM said Wednesday it sold 8,355,947 cars and trucks around the world in 2008, falling about 616,000 vehicles short of the 8.972 million Toyota announced Tuesday. GM said the shortfall was mainly caused by the economic downturns in the U.S. and Europe that slashed vehicle demand in those major markets, where Toyota doesn't have as large of a presence.

Mike DiGiovanni, GM's executive director of global market and industry analysis, downplayed the significance of the drop to No. 2, saying that the automaker is focused on profitability rather than sales volume.

"I don't think being No. 1 in vehicle sales means much at all to the American consumer," DiGiovanni said in a conference call with reporters and analysts. "I think what matters most to the consumer is strong brands and strong products. And the key thing right now with what the industry is going through now is viability and profitability."

Detroit-based GM, which has closed plants and laid off workers to cut production as it faces the worst U.S. auto market in more than 25 years, received a $13.4 billion lifeline from the federal government last month. But the bailout requires GM to submit a plan for long-term viability, and the loan may be called back if the government hasn't determined by March 31 that the plan can succeed.

DiGiovanni said all automakers are currently facing risks and challenges not seen since the Great Depression, and he pointed out that even Toyota expects to post an operating loss for the current fiscal year \ its first in 70 years.

Toyota's overall global sales fell 4 percent for 2008, marking that automaker's first decline in a decade. The Japanese automaker has cut production in both North America and Japan to align its product offerings with slowing consumer demand.

GM posted an 11 percent drop in global sales, including a 21 percent drop in North America. GM Europe sales fell 6.5 percent, including a 21 percent plunge in the fourth quarter as the global economy melted down.

Those declines were partially offset by a 3.2 percent increase in sales at GM's Latin America, Africa and Middle East region, and 2.7 percent growth in Asia-Pacific sales. Sales outside of the U.S. accounted for 64 percent of GM's global sales in 2008, up from 59 percent the year before.

Toyota's move into the top sales spot wasn't unexpected. The automaker nearly leapfrogged GM in 2007, selling only about 3,000 fewer vehicles than the U.S. company did that year.

DiGiovanni said Toyota's move to the top of the sales rankings doesn't necessarily signal a turning point in the industry. He said it's entirely possible that GM could regain the No. 1 spot once U.S. and European markets recover and sales in key emerging markets pick up.

"That story has yet to be written," DiGiovanni said. "Nobody knows what's going to happen."

GM shares rose 3 cents to end at $3.53, while Toyota's U.S. shares rose $1.64, or 2.5 percent, to $67.52.
22 Jan 2009, 11:24 #3222
^ I'm surprised this hadn't happened earlier. Toyota just makes quality cars.
22 Jan 2009, 12:06 #3223
Jav_sol wrote:^ I'm surprised this hadn't happened earlier. Toyota just makes quality cars.

Yup.

Interesting that all the foreign car makers are down in sales as well, yet they haven't laid off any people.... Or have they? :headscratch:
22 Jan 2009, 15:17 #3224
bmwracer wrote:
Interesting that all the foreign car makers are down in sales as well, yet they haven't laid off any people.... Or have they? :headscratch:
Not yet, but they're struggling as well, this is from Sunday's Asahi Shimbun[/list:u]Toyota plans to slash domestic output in half
BY HITOKI NAKAGAWA AND NAOYUKI FUKUDA

THE ASAHI SHIMBUN

2009/1/19

Faced with evaporating demand worldwide, Toyota Motor Corp. plans to halve domestic production from a year earlier between February and April, according to sources.

About 9,000 vehicles will be assembled per operating day, around the same level as during the second oil crisis of 1979, the sources said.

The figure includes all vehicles built at Toyota's four assembly plants, subsidiary Toyota Motor Kyushu Inc.'s plant, and factories of group companies in the Kanto and Tohoku regions.

It falls below the baseline of 11,000 units required to keep auto plants running efficiently and at profitable levels, the sources said.

Toyota is expected to drastically scale back its production setup by suspending assembly lines for a number of consecutive days, including weekdays, or eliminating night shifts on additional lines, the sources said.
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4 Mar 2009, 04:17 #3225
Wow, Long Beach Mini is offering 2.9% financing on all hardtop Minis... :sweat:
4 Mar 2009, 12:39 · edited #3226
bmwracer wrote:Wow, Long Beach Mini is offering 2.9% financing on all hardtop Minis... :sweat:


i dont think you would, but i could see you in a factory JCW :hehe: :hehe:
chili red with black stripes.

ETA: i just saw it's a factory deal, so go to South Bay MINI and ask for Amanda and take a test drive. :mrgreen:
4 Mar 2009, 12:55 #3227
krim wrote:i dont think you would, but i could see you in a factory JCW :hehe: :hehe:
chili red with black stripes.

White stripes. :victory:
4 Mar 2009, 12:59 #3228
OOOooOoOoooo rebel.

post was edited. see above.
4 Mar 2009, 13:28 #3229
krim wrote:
ask for Amanda and take a test drive. :mrgreen:


What if Amanda doesn't want to be test driven? :hehe:
4 Mar 2009, 14:08 #3230
Anime Dad wrote:What if Amanda doesn't want to be test driven? :hehe:

LOL.

But if you're willing to buy....... :beaten:
22 Mar 2009, 06:41 #3231
10 Most Ticketed Cars

1. Hummer H2
People who love the Hummer H2 probably love its bold, imposing looks. Apparently, cops love the H2 because it helps them meet their ticket quotas. Here's a tip: If you have an H2, maybe you shouldn't drive it near then end of the month when traffic cops are scrambling to make their numbers.

2. Scion tC
Seeing the tC on the most-ticketed list makes sense, given its popularity with young people. Its sporty performance, which comes at a price that makes affording tickets easy, probably helps tempt some drivers as well.

3. Scion xB
Like the Scion tC, the xB is aimed at younger drivers. Still, when you look at the xB's less-than-stellar performance, it's safe to assume that all the tickets xB drivers are getting aren't moving violations.

4. Mercedes Benz CLK63 AMG
If you're lucky enough to have a Mercedes AMG -- any AMG -- then a few tickets are worth unleashing this luxurious beast. Besides, if you've got a Mercedes, you can probably afford a few traffic citations.

5. Toyota Solara Coupe
Now, here's a surprise. The fifth most ticketed car is the Toyota Solara Coupe. Essentially a two-door Camry, the Solara isn't known for road-thrashing performance. Maybe Solara drivers just get a lot of parking tickets.

6. Mercedes Benz CLS63 AMG
The CLS63 AMG is another luxury performance car, so it's no shocker to see its drivers among the most ticketed. The question is: With all that power, why aren't more CLS63 AMG drivers outrunning the cops?

7. Scion xA
With the xA taking the seventh spot on the ten most ticketed cars list, Scion completes the traffic-ticket hat trick. Toyota's upstart little brand has only come out with four models over its entire lifespan -- and three of them will likely get you a date in traffic court.

8. Subaru Outback
Subarus have a reputation of being yuppie grocery getters, but the Outback manages to prove that stereotype wrong by being one of the top ten most ticketed cars. Apparently, the Outback is the car of choice for people who need to get to Whole Foods in a hurry, and maybe park illegally once they're there.

9. Audi A4
Audi often finds itself in the shadows of Mercedes and BMW, but not when it comes to getting tickets. The Audi A4 is the ninth most ticketed car in America.

10. Toyota Matrix
The Toyota Matrix is often credited for bringing SUV styling to small cars. Now it can also be credited to bringing insurance rate increases to thousands of its owners.

10 Least Ticketed Cars

1. Jaguar XJ
The Jaguar XJ gives drivers a smooth ride and an opulent interior. As the least- ticketed car in America, it also seems to provide the ability to fly under radar guns. There's a feature they won't tell you about at the dealership.

2. Chevrolet Suburban
Suburban drivers tend to need their large SUVs for hauling people or towing trailers, not breaking land speed records. So it's not surprising to see it on the list of least-ticketed cars.

3. Chevrolet Tahoe
The Tahoe shares some architecture with the Hummer H2, the most-ticketed car in America. Despite the two having similar sizes, the Tahoe manages not to attract as much police attention.

4. Chevrolet Silverado 2500 and 3500
It's no shocker to find Chevrolet's heavy-duty trucks among the least-ticketed vehicles. These trucks are usually bought for their towing ability, not for impromptu drag races.

5. Buick Park Avenue
While Buick has recently begun to increase the oomph in their cars, the now- discontinued Park Avenue helped solidify the brand's image as cars for the senior set. No wonder Park Avenue drivers tend not to get very many tickets.

6. Mazda6
The largest car in Mazda's line up, the Mazda6 has plenty of the brand's zoom-zoom, yet still manages to be among the least-ticketed cars. If you love driving sporty sedans but can't take seeing any more red and blue lights in your rearview mirror, the Mazda6 may be just the car for you.

7. Buick Rainier
The now-discontinued Buick Rainier is a largely forgettable attempt at a near- luxury SUV. Maybe that forgettable nature keeps cops from noticing when one commits a traffic offense.

8. Oldsmobile Silhouette
Finding a minivan from Oldsmobile on the list of least-ticketed cars isn't surprising. What's surprising is that anyone is still driving a Silhouette.

9. Buick Lucerne
The Buick Lucerne offers a near-luxury experience at an affordable large car price. Being one of the least-ticketed cars means that the Lucerne's affordability continues after it's bought, thanks to fewer fines and lower insurance rates.

10. GMC Sierra 1500
The GMC Sierra is an attractive truck for work or play. With its ability to haul or tow heavy loads, this truck will do anything you ask it to, including avoiding traffic citations.
22 Mar 2009, 07:47 #3232
Anime Dad wrote:

What if Amanda doesn't want to be test driven? :hehe:


:naughty:
28 Mar 2009, 23:23 #3234
2009 F1 season starts this weekend in Australia...! :woot: :victory:
28 Mar 2009, 23:51 #3235
bmwracer wrote:2009 F1 season starts this weekend in Australia...! :woot: :victory:
Thanks for reminding me, here's the starting grid:[/list:u]1 Jenson Button Brawn 1:26.202
2 Rubens Barrichello Brawn 0:01.001
3 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 0:01.326
4 Robert Kubica BMW 0:01.410
5 Nico Rosberg Williams 0:01.469
6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 0:01.529
7 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 0:01.659
8 Mark Webber Red Bull 0:01.742
9 Nick Heidfeld BMW 0:00.000
10 Fernando Alonso Renault 0:00.101
11 Kazuki Nakajima Williams 0:00.103
12 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 0:00.222
13 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso 0:00.999
14 Nelson Piquet Renault 0:01.094
15 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India 0:01.173
16 Adrian Sutil Force India 0:01.238
17 Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 0:01.460
18 Lewis Hamilton McLaren
19 Timo Glock Toyota
20 Jarno Trulli Toyota
[/list:u] Hamilton had to replace his transmission so he has to start at the back. Both Toyotas had rules violations because of their wings so their times weren't allowed. (already the politics is starting :shakehead: )[/list:u]
29 Mar 2009, 13:05 #3236
I just read in today's paper about all the new rules... And the return of slicks. :victory:
29 Mar 2009, 20:56 #3237
Button, Brawn Win in Australia1 Jenson Button Brawn 1:34:15.784
2 Rubens Barrichello Brawn 0.807
3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 2.914
4 Timo Glock Toyota 4.435
5 Fernando Alonso Renault 4.879
6 Nico Rosberg Williams 5.722
7 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso 6.004
8 Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 6.298
[/list:u][/list:u] Amazing to win their first time out!! :victory: And props to Hamilton coming all the way from the back to finish 3rd.
30 Mar 2009, 08:39 #3238
^ Pretty amazing for Team Brawn to win the first time out... With the help of Mercedes power ( :grumble: )
30 Mar 2009, 10:37 #3239
How unfortunate for Trulli to be relegated from 3rd to 12th.
30 Mar 2009, 11:00 #3240
Takoyama wrote:How unfortunate for Trulli to be relegated from 3rd to 12th.
I think they'll probably appeal that. Don't know if it will go any good though. [/list:u] Just wanted to add that at first I thought the cars this year looked really ugly, but once I saw them in action, they look pretty good. And YAY for slicks coming back!!! :woot: [/list:u]

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